BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - - - - - Part 14

[Avid Avenger]

All I can say is that they better all hope their mother's change their names to Martha.

They forgot the 2 billion BO idea....

Batman v Batman

Coming to theaters, faster than a premature Flash.

 

[wobbly]

Any word on the international numbers for this weekend yet?

Around $7-8mil for Friday, so not much better.

 

[Baneis8feettall]

To anyone blaming on Snyder, Nolan, Goyer, Terrio or WB, you're all projecting your personal preferences onto the masses. That's not how box office works.

This movie simply had not enough marketability to perform on par with Avengers for a series of different reasons, many of which we can only speculate on.

But, I dare tell you, if one of the lead actors died before the release of the movie, the box office gross would have gone through the roof, even if they released the same cut which is in theaters now.
It happened before with The Dark Knight and Furious 7, which outgrew their predecessors by a long margin.

 

[Webhead38]

Even with a better bump than expected for Saturday, BVS still can't compete with the Boss and will lose on it's third weekend to a film aimed at the 50 something demographic for women. That tells you right there how many empty theaters BVS is playing to across the country. And that's with the advantages of 3D and IMAX shows running as well. Had this movie not opened simultaneously around the world, it's fate would have been so much worse. The best thing WB did was by getting as many people as possible in that first weekend, before word got out. And now they live vicariously on those front-loaded tallies with literally no legs to stand on. Hell, Batman & Robin was released in the summer with competition around it and didn't see falls remotely this bad. Looks like Clooney has lost his crown. BVS holds the shame now. This is well past just a collapse. Theaters will start dropping screens in mass after this week. No telling where it will be seated after next weekend with Jungle Book taking all the 3D screens. That consideration will have to be made as well.

http://deadline.com/2016/04/the-boss-batman-v-superman-weekend-box-office-hardcore-henry-1201734744/

 

[Ms. Marvel]

You're forgetting how much the mass audience's (including critics) appeal over dramas is quite poor.

"The Dark Knight" was a movie that, at its time of release, would not have made the same success without Heath's tragic demise, because it was essentially a crime drama featuring Batman, Joker and Two Face.
I remember leaving the theater kind of depressed by the movie, but I never would have dare call it a bad feature.

Now, go look up RT scores of all crime dramas released in a year.
They're always generally treated very poorly, because they don't have mass appeal.
For example, "Blitz" starring Jason Statham, a very dark movie which had a scene so violent I had to turn it off, stands at 6.2 on IMDb and 48% on RT with an average of 5.1/10 from critics and 36% with an average of 3/5 from audience.
Does it make the movie an objective disgrace?
No, I wouldn't dare judge it like that.
Technically, it's done very well, it's just not a family movie.
I might actually give it another chance when I'll be in the right mood to rewatch it.

To conclude, the market is now geared towards the Star Wars/Marvel packaging, but WB tried the same thing with Green Lantern and the audience responded badly, so how can you blame them for going the MoS/BvS route?

You do realise TDK wasn't the last film Heath was in? If you look at the BO for the last film he was in you might want to rethink what you are saying.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

This thread...

 

[Lily Adler]

I'm going to do my best C. Lee impression:

THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR DISCUSSING WHAT YOU LIKED AND DID NOT LIKE ABOUT THE FILM. THIS THREAD IS NOT TO RATIONALIZE AND/OR SPECULATE WHY OTHERS LIKED OR DISLIKED THE FILM. THIS THREAD IS NOT TO DISCUSS WB'S UPCOMING PLANS FOR THE DCEU OR WHAT THEY SHOULD DO NEXT. THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR CRITICIZING OR PRAISING ZACK SNYDER, CHRIS TERRIO, OR THE CREW.THIS THREAD IS TO DISCUSS BATMAN V. SUPERMAN'S BOX OFFICE PREDICTIONS!

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

While WB are bound to be disappointed in the movies performance, at the end of the day this movie is a sequel that made more than its predecessor. That's normally considered a success.

I just hope going forward WB re-analyses the amount they spend on these things as its getting far too much.

 

[samsnee]

I wanted to see this again end of the month to see if going in knowing it would stink would help it at all. But at this rate there won't be any theaters left showing it.

 

[Lily Adler]

Eh... it's easier to swallow the second time. My theater was actually pretty empty with about 10 people. I can see this doing south of 850 million now.

 

[Poni_Boy]

While WB are bound to be disappointed in the movies performance, at the end of the day this movie is a sequel that made more than its predecessor.

That's not true either though:

Analyst: 'Batman v Superman' will be less profitable than 'Man of Steel'

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That's not true either though:

Analyst: 'Batman v Superman' will be less profitable than 'Man of Steel'

I meant the movie made more at the box office. Which for a sequel, is usually considered a success.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I meant the movie made more at the box office. Which for a sequel, is usually considered a success.

That's not how it works

 

[samsnee]

I meant the movie made more at the box office. Which for a sequel, is usually considered a success.

I had a cookie sale. Made 10 cookies. Sold them all. Had a second cookie sale. Made 50. Sold 20. Would you consider that a success?

 

[GreenKToo]

I had a cookie sale. Made 10 cookies. Sold them all. Had a second cookie sale. Made 50. Sold 20. Would you consider that a success?

 

[samsnee]

You just didn't understand the complexity of the ingredients in the cookies that were sold.

 

[Sithborg]

To anyone blaming on Snyder, Nolan, Goyer, Terrio or WB, you're all projecting your personal preferences onto the masses. That's not how box office works.

This movie simply had not enough marketability to perform on par with Avengers for a series of different reasons, many of which we can only speculate on.

But, I dare tell you, if one of the lead actors died before the release of the movie, the box office gross would have gone through the roof, even if they released the same cut which is in theaters now.
It happened before with The Dark Knight and Furious 7, which outgrew their predecessors by a long margin.

The opening weekend says otherwise. Even if some of the first signs of trouble was spotted in that weekend, it still did $166 mil. Which despite everything, is still an amazing number.

But good to know the success of TDK and Furious 7 is still being dismissed.

 

[jmc]

So, BvS suffers the ultimate humiliation at the hands of Melissa McCarthy.

 

[Stark Bauer]

You're forgetting how much the mass audience's (including critics) appeal over dramas is quite poor.

"The Dark Knight" was a movie that, at its time of release, would not have made the same success without Heath's tragic demise, because it was essentially a crime drama featuring Batman, Joker and Two Face.
I remember leaving the theater kind of depressed by the movie, but I never would have dare call it a bad feature.

Now, go look up RT scores of all crime dramas released in a year.
They're always generally treated very poorly, because they don't have mass appeal.
For example, "Blitz" starring Jason Statham, a very dark movie which had a scene so violent I had to turn it off, stands at 6.2 on IMDb and 48% on RT with an average of 5.1/10 from critics and 36% with an average of 3/5 from audience.
Does it make the movie an objective disgrace?
No, I wouldn't dare judge it like that.
Technically, it's done very well, it's just not a family movie.
I might actually give it another chance when I'll be in the right mood to rewatch it.

To conclude, the market is now geared towards the Star Wars/Marvel packaging, but WB tried the same thing with Green Lantern and the audience responded badly, so how can you blame them for going the MoS/BvS route?

That last paragraph sounded like WB PR speak. Just so out of touch with what the audience finds appealing. What about the Star Wars prequels then lol explain why they weren't as successful as Ep 7? Green Lantern simply isn't of the same quality as the Marvel studios films. It isn't about the tone and style, it's about content quality scripts, editing.

 

[Stark Bauer]

I did say it. And I was called a troll to no end. I would say I feel vindicated but this movie and everything surrounding its failure is so bad I just feel bad for it. BvS will be remembered as an Internet meme and nothing more. Like dancing Spidey in SM3

Agreed. Except I actually find dancing spidey so bad that it's good. A jar of piss? Just bad.

 

[WilliamK99]

I just hope beyond hope that the box office for BvS has made WB rethink their strategy going forward....

 

[Stark Bauer]

You just didn't understand the complexity of the ingredients in the cookies that were sold.

I'm dying hahahaha

 

[Stark Bauer]

I just hope beyond hope that the box office for BvS has made WB rethink their strategy going forward....

They haven't. It sounds like Snyder will be given the green light to go ahead and direct JL1. Not sure about JL2 though. When will they ever learn?

 

[WilliamK99]

They haven't. It sounds like Snyder will be given the green light to go ahead and direct JL1. Not sure about JL2 though. When will they ever learn?

Won't they be filmed at exact same time?

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I did say it. And I was called a troll to no end. I would say I feel vindicated but this movie and everything surrounding its failure is so bad I just feel bad for it. BvS will be remembered as an Internet meme and nothing more. Like dancing Spidey in SM3

Did you say it before or after you saw the movie?