BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - - - - - - Part 15

[Tacit Ronin]

I don't think Flash or Aquaman need a movie.

The point is to make money. The Flash and Aquaman are just another property to make money off of. Which is why the cinematic universe model is so lucrative. Not only to see them interact, but to retain/gain interest in the solo properties as well. Look at the rise in stock of the individual Marvel heroes post-Avengers. They made more than they would've if they weren't coming off of the Avengers.

 

[Kanon]

The usual math for blockbusters is about 53% domestically, 40% internationally, and 25% in China. That math gives you $358M that WB has taken home so far from the box office, well short of enough to cover their marketing and production costs.

Yes, I have seen other percentages too (those were in the Deadline article). I think it varies with every movie, depending on how frontloaded it is, since (I think) the % is higher on the first weeks, and then drops to favor the theaters. A frontloaded takes a bigger % over the final gross than one with good legs, and what that percentage is, you don't know until late in the run)

 

[InCali]

They can be very lucrative too with a different approach. They just have to hire really good writers and really good directors to make solo movies of their main characters. That's all they need. Nolan did it.

What you're saying is true, but I think the Universe building makes it easier to make profitable movies for lesser known characters (ie GotG and AM and now DS). Of course the movies have to be good, but I think they get a sizable bump from the major characters and the blockbusters (CA, Thor, IM from the Avengers movie for example).

So, IF you can do it right, there are some advantages to the universe building and it's tough to resist trying when someone is making bank from characters like AM and GotG. Of course you don't have to and maybe you're right that they shouldn't. I'm just saying it's very, very tempting.

 

[InCali]

But they wanna create a cinematic universe and make movies with a lot of their characters. I understand that desire, but it doesn't need to happen. I don't think Flash or Aquaman need a movie. We don't need a movie of everything that exists. You don't need a movie about my underwear.

That's because people wouldn't watch it. That's product placement at its poorest.

EDIT: I'd go see Flash and Aquaman (but think the latter is bad casting).

 

[Logan0327]

we absolutely need an Aquaman movie it would be something in the genre we have never seen before

 

[InCali]

we absolutely need an Aquaman movie it would be something in the genre we have never seen before

True, but I have my doubts about the casting. I'm concerned about his ability to carry a movie. This isn't (hopefully) Conan.

 

[Erzengel]

Also, have this like Thor in the aspect of more than 30 minutes in Atlantis and have just the rest on land.

 

[InCali]

Also, have this like Thor in the aspect of more than 30 minutes in Atlantis and have just the rest on land.

Yeah. They could do some totally amazing stuff with Atlantis. Hopefully, and I think, Ragnarok will have much more Asgard and other realms. I mean, I like OUR realm too, but I'm here everyday.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

$9.03 million domestic actual for the weekend. $311.33 million is the new domestic total.

 

[InCali]

$9.03 million domestic actual for the weekend. $311.33 million is the new domestic total.

Wulp, they were pretty much dead bang on. With the multiplier it's been having, I just can't see it getting to 330M. No more million dollar weekdays. I think that's certain. It's gonna start the crawl now.

 

[Kanon]

Wulp, they were pretty much dead bang on. With the multiplier it's been having, I just can't see it getting to 330M. No more million dollar weekdays. I think that's certain. It's gonna start the crawl now.

I'm guessing it will end up with 327M DOM

 

[kedrell]

$9.03 million domestic actual for the weekend. $311.33 million is the new domestic total.

I'm really surprised. I thought for sure the actuals would see it drop below $9m.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Wulp, they were pretty much dead bang on. With the multiplier it's been having, I just can't see it getting to 330M. No more million dollar weekdays. I think that's certain. It's gonna start the crawl now.

Yeah, just eyeballing things it seems like maybe $11-12 million more domestic through the next two weeks. Then Civil War bows and that'll pretty much be it.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

I'm guessing it will end up with 327M DOM

Sounds about right.

 

[Tymminator]

The thing about just doing solos is, before he MCU, that's all WB (and actually everyone else) ever did, and with variable results. Just doing solos, then reboot, then solos again is only going to pull so much IMO.

 

[Stark Bauer]

Oh I'm not saying a $40 mil profit at the BO on this movie is a success. I'm saying rule of thumb is a 10% return on investment as the absolute bottom for not getting people fired.

I understand now thanks for clarifying

 

[Sithborg]

I'm really surprised. I thought for sure the actuals would see it drop below $9m.

Sometimes BvS can exceed expectations.

 

[Stark Bauer]

DREDD (which was basically The Raid with a comic book mythology) cost $45 mil to make. That should be the model for the Batman solo movie. Set it in Arkham. Keep it all there. No more than $100 mil to produce. Following that model WB could actually start recouping some of the money BvS left on the table.

Seriously. From this suggestion to when you were rightly suggesting that WB release the directors cut back in its 2nd/3rd weekend as damage control, you have been spot on with business decisions. They have proven themselves inept in what to do next with the DC universe.

WB hire this man.

 

[InCali]

Sometimes BvS can exceed expectations.

Yup. Pulled in a smooth 9M instead of a paltry 8.5M.

 

[Tymminator]

Seriously. From this suggestion to when you were rightly suggesting that WB release the directors cut back in its 2nd/3rd weekend as damage control, you have been spot on with business decisions. They have proven themselves inept in what to do next with the DC universe.

WB hire this man.

Well, Poni had stake in this as a shareholder, so he has a reason to be miffed about this whole thing than just only being a fan.

 

[Stark Bauer]

I'm guessing it will end up with 327M DOM

Nahhhh $326M lol

Seriously though less than GOTG so about 330M

 

[Stark Bauer]

Weekly breakdown

12 million this week (4th week)
10 million the remaining weeks

Previous weeks
209 + 64.2 + 29.1 = 302.3 + 22. =

322.3 final domestic gross

+ 540 international = 862.3 final worldwide gross

Predicting the International BO is more of a challenge

 

[Maximum_Maximus]

That's because people wouldn't watch it. That's product placement at its poorest.

EDIT: I'd go see Flash and Aquaman (but think the latter is bad casting).

I thought the casting for both WW and Aquaman are poor. Chris Pine hasn't had a successful movie outside of Star Trek, Gal Gadot is best known for her supporting role in Fast & Furious franchise and her most recently movie, Criminal, is a flop (just like Henry Caville's The Man from UNCLE). Jason Mamoa had a very forgettable debut as the starring actor in a movie (Conan) and his appearance in Game of Thrones is that of a foreigner who speaks little. I personally would not trust any of them to carry a franchise on their own.

 

[hafizbat]

Only because of Perlmutter's infamous frugality. He is gone now.

I get the feeling that Perlmutter was the businessman and Feige is just the fan who wants to make the best movies possible of characters he loves.

 

[MadVillainy]

Also, have this like Thor in the aspect of more than 30 minutes in Atlantis and have just the rest on land.

ah I think the opposite. Spend 30 minutes on land and the rest in Atlantis/under the sea.

Will they do that? No. But that's for another thread