BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - - - - - - - Part 16

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AndrewOz said:
Yes it is. Indifference is far worse than hatred for any form of art.
It shows the creation failed to make any connection at all.
Of course, after repeated failures, indifference might become the preferred option for a bruised creative ego.
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And on that note I will say that, at least with me, Snyder succeeded. Bats and Supes were beloved heroes from my youth, but I've seen every movie they've made about them starting with S:TM in theaters, and by the time this came around had no real interest in yet another one. Yet after seeing BvS, Snyder has made me love the characters again. Oh, not the two wrecked variants he put on screen, but the ones I've always known. He took those memories and clubbed them like a baby seal for two-plus hours. In the process he has inspired a fear and loathing of the DCEU in me I didn't realize I was capable of feeling. So I guess he's an artist after all. Great job, Zach.
 
dnno1 said:
The fact of the matter is that most people weren't disappointed with the movie. Remember, Batman v Superman received a cinemascore of B and cinemareview of 98%, which is very good. most haters are coagulating to this forum to make it seem like most people didn't like the film. If the film was that bad it wouldn't have made over $850 dollars (and counting) at this point in time nor would it have fans reporting of repeat viewings of the film.
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Here we go with the 'hater' nonsense again. :whatever:
 
dnno1 said:
The fact of the matter is that most people weren't disappointed with the movie. Remember, Batman v Superman received a cinemascore of B and cinemareview of 98%, which is very good. most haters are coagulating to this forum to make it seem like most people didn't like the film. If the film was that bad it wouldn't have made over $850 dollars (and counting) at this point in time nor would it have fans reporting of repeat viewings of the film.
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Even though it set records for how big it's opening was it very quickly followed up with record setting drop off, which shows what?
Most people didn't like it. It made half of it's total take in the OW. That's not a sign of popularity.
Even though it is a terrible movie, I'm pretty sure it made more than $850 dollars. That would't pay for 1 days lunch on set.
 
geeks_are_cool said:
this is probably one of the worst, most poisonous threads i've ever come across

the DCEU, a £1.5 billion failure for WB
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lol. Just see it as a discussion. :)


Anyway,


It was easier to predict this movie's worldwide gross but I'm having a hard time predicting Captain America: Civil War.
 
I like it when people bring up Cinemascore. The "grading on a curve" version of rating movies.

Batman vs. Superman got a "B". You know who else got a "B"? The first 2 Fantastic Four movies, Green Lantern, Catwoman and Elektra.
 
SomeOldGuy said:
And on that note I will say that, at least with me, Snyder succeeded. Bats and Supes were beloved heroes from my youth, but I've seen every movie they've made about them starting with S:TM in theaters, and by the time this came around had no real interest in yet another one. Yet after seeing BvS, Snyder has made me love the characters again. Oh, not the two wrecked variants he put on screen, but the ones I've always known. He took those memories and clubbed them like a baby seal for two-plus hours. In the process he has inspired a fear and loathing of the DCEU in me I didn't realize I was capable of feeling. So I guess he's an artist after all. Great job, Zach.
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:funny::waa::funny:
I bet he's hoping he has a lot of indifference to look forward to in the reception to the JL about now.
I've been digging out my old issues too lately, just to reassure myself that Zack didn't get a single thing right. He didn't, but he did nail it visually.
Watched the animated World's Finest again today.
Why can't we get that kind of character quality on a live action screen? A DCEU where Bruce Wayne got to Lois first and she's rubbing Clark's nose in it?
That's bold and edgy (How bad is she going to feel when she finds out who Superman is? Of course, Snyder decided that there's no fun in that tension, so we start the DCEU with Lois knowing who he is before he even gets the suit!!!)
The only thing that could get me excited for the JL now is if WB pull a CA:CW by lifting the review embargo well in advance and it's just as positive.
Dare to dream!
 
dnno1 said:
The fact of the matter is that most people weren't disappointed with the movie. Remember, Batman v Superman received a cinemascore of B and cinemareview of 98%, which is very good. most haters are coagulating to this forum to make it seem like most people didn't like the film. If the film was that bad it wouldn't have made over $850 dollars (and counting) at this point in time nor would it have fans reporting of repeat viewings of the film.
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When a movie has less than a 2x multiplier, which this movie is flirting with, it means it crashed and burned at the box office, it got the majority of the ticket sales on opening weekend and in presales before WOM crushed it. WOM on this movie was absolutely horrible that isn't hater talk, that is the truth, when a movie drops this hard it has to have terrible WOM...

I give WB credit, by putting the embargo up and only allowing WB lemmings to watch the movie early and post reviews, they suckered a huge portion of audience to pay for a substandard film...Audiences won't make that mistake again.
 
dnno1 said:
The fact of the matter is that most people weren't disappointed with the movie. Remember, Batman v Superman received a cinemascore of B and cinemareview of 98%, which is very good. most haters are coagulating to this forum to make it seem like most people didn't like the film. If the film was that bad it wouldn't have made over $850 dollars (and counting) at this point in time nor would it have fans reporting of repeat viewings of the film.
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You should do some stand-up.
 
dnno1 said:
The fact of the matter is that most people weren't disappointed with the movie. Remember, Batman v Superman received a cinemascore of B and cinemareview of 98%, which is very good. most haters are coagulating to this forum to make it seem like most people didn't like the film. If the film was that bad it wouldn't have made over $850 dollars (and counting) at this point in time nor would it have fans reporting of repeat viewings of the film.
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You so crazy.
 
I wanted GL to be good. I like Ryan, but he never had a chance. Glad things worked out for Deadpool. It's really hard to argue that this movie didn't crash after the first weekend, but some people are giving it a good shot.

For example, BOM is predicting that Zootopia will take about a 2M bite out of the approximately 3M lead BvS had domestically going into the weekend. This is a movie that has been out 3 weeks longer. It's true that a good animated movie tends to have better legs than one from the SH genre, but it opened to over "90M" less on it's opening weekend. Please don't try to defend the legs of BvS or you'll end up looking like an idiot.

What was the budget for Zootopia? Are there any estimates?
 
InCali said:
I wanted GL to be good. I like Ryan, but he never had a chance. Glad things worked out for Deadpool. It's really hard to argue that this movie didn't crash after the first weekend, but some people are giving it a good shot.

For example, BOM is predicting that Zootopia will take about a 2M bite out of the approximately 3M lead BvS had domestically going into the weekend. This is a movie that has been out 3 weeks longer. It's true that a good animated movie tends to have better legs than one from the SH genre, but it opened to over "90M" less on it's opening weekend. Please don't try to defend the legs of BvS or you'll end up looking like an idiot.

What was the budget for Zootopia? Are there any estimates?
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$150m production budget as per wikipedia. They surely didn't break the bank marketing it as it was something of a sleeper hit that wasn't big on anyone's radar prior to release. Figure a $50-$75m marketing budget favoring the lower end of that spectrum. So basically around $200m total or half of what BvS cost, at least. Zootopia has been in the black financially ever since it crossed $400m WW. Disney'll pocket at least a half billion $ in profit from it before taxes. In fact Zootopia & TJB combined will probably put a pre-tax profit of around $1 billion in Disney's pocket for this year before we even get to their larger movies. That's probably around half a billion $ post-tax. Given it's slate, Disney'll end up in 2016 with it's films generating a post-tax profit in the $2-3 billion range from ticket sales alone. I can't even say for sure if WB will end up with any profit by the end of the year solely from their ticket sales. Merchandising and other revenue streams will surely save their bacon but it could end up as a year where WB's movies couldn't pay their own way all by themselves. That's a big problem.
 
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Generally accepted figure is $150 million. Disney never released an official number.
 
Tacit Ronin said:
Dnno1 has proven he doesn't live in the real world a long time ago.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=20511285&postcount=8

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=20624565&postcount=817

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=20601473&postcount=538

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=21364115&postcount=1002
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And Green Lantern was a good movie. It got a Cinemascore of B as well. The franchise just lacked the brand awareness that a Batman or Superman has.
 
dnno1 said:
And Green Lantern was a good movie. It got a Cinemascore of B as well. The franchise just lacked the brand awareness that a Batman or Superman has.
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Whaaa????? :huh::huh::huh:

EDIT: If I'm not mistaken, CinemaScore tries to predict how a movie will do at the box office and is not a critical rating so I'm a little bit confused by your tying the CinemaScore to being a good movie. So, anything that gets a CinemaScore of B is a good movie??? (Shakes head in dismay)

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You know what is also crazy? If you hold a bottle of cold water and tap it with you finger, it will freeze. Hey, I just stated facts. How is that crazy? What is crazy is the BvS RottenTomatoes score.
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Facts????? :huh::huh::huh:

I'm thinking you're maybe just a little bit out there.......

EDIT2: BTW, it isn't the "tapping" of a cold bottle of water that causes it to freeze. A couple of conditions have to be met. Essentially the water in the bottle must be at least or below 32 degrees F. Water at that temperature can remain in a liquid state because of the pressure in a closed bottle. Once that pressure is released, the water at or below freezing will freeze. It has nothing to do with touching it. For me, the example would be a bottle of wine I put in the freezer because I don't want to wait so long before I drink it. If I leave it in too long, it can be in a liquid state, but, if the temperature is low enough, it will freeze when I uncork it.
 
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dnno1 said:
And Green Lantern was a good movie. It got a Cinemascore of B as well. The franchise just lacked the brand awareness that a Batman or Superman has.
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A B on CinemaScore for a blockbuster is at best as mediocre as dirty dishwater and at worst is actually a pretty terrible score. Lots of movies get worse CinemaScores and are still thought better of than something like BvS but those movies aren't blockbusters. Blockbusters play by different rules. They absolutely NEED to be liked if not loved by most because they cost so much to begin with that they need as wide a net as possible. Smaller films can afford to be niche' or only play well to one segment of the audience. Blockbusters can't though. Yes a B for a film the size of BvS is indeed a poor showing.
 
InCali said:
Whaaa????? :huh::huh::huh:

EDIT: If I'm not mistaken, CinemaScore tries to predict how a movie will do at the box office and is not a critical rating so I'm a little bit confused by your tying the CinemaScore to being a good movie. So, anything that gets a CinemaScore of B is a good movie??? (Shakes head in dismay)
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CinemaScore is audience grading via exit polls. And on their scale, when it comes to blockbusters at least, a "B" is not good at all. That's the same grade as Catwoman. Spider-Man 3 AND The Amazing Spider-Man 2 both got a B+.

It's when you start looking at non-blockbusters that the CinemaScores start to get a little nutty, because even the great non-crowd-pleasers...*gasp* don't please crowds.
 
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