The Dark Knight Batsuit Discussion Thread

[Super_Ludacris]

I think because the way the ears were designed they were shorter it made the cowl come off different.

 

[Golgo-13]

The Bat-suit can be done a hundred different ways and still look cool and work. It boils down to more a matter of personal stylistic preferences. I really like the Begins suit but, of course, I would like to change "a few" things to make it more to my liking. However, Nolan has done the Batman justice and should stick with the same basic look. My relatively minor quibbles have to do with the ears, mouth opening, symbol and clasps.

Good point. It boils down to personal taste. No matter how much they change the suit, people will have problems with it. I like the Begins suit. I think the ears could be longer but that's it.

 

[Whack Arnolds]

I'd like to keep these two things, LOCKED:

1) Cowl. It's an absolute BAD ASS cowl. If they can even further improve the already flexible material, the better.

2) The Symbol. Keep the symbol on the chest the EXACT same. I don't want to see a different symbol each movie on Batman's chest like the previous movie series. Why would Bruce continually change the symbol? That would defeat the purpose of it being "THE SYMBOL". lol

What I want changed?

~ I wouldn't mind seeing the costume a dark grey, with the black cowl, symbol, cape, boots, etc. highlighting thus making a neat color combo.
~ Make the suit possibly a thinner material, make it more organic, possible like a worn leather or something new and innovative???
~ Get rid of the clasps, PLEASE. Makes it look more natural.

 

[Wams]

Im amazed at how far this thread went, just because of a couple
of drawings....

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Sharp

 

[BatScot]

Im amazed at how far this thread went...

And it's got a bit farther to go yet

 

[Enigma2k]

Why does Batman have to wear sculpted muscles?

 

[kenellard]

For "REALISM" apparently.

 

[Two-Face]

What? No.

 

[kenellard]

Crazy thought I know, not sure if anyone's used that word on here before. I see the next bat-movie as "Dog the bounty hunter with a cape" sounds good no? no? no I didn't think so

 

[Dark Knight88]

Bale's suit is fine, keep it as it is i say. I'd like to see a Batman movie experimenting without the rubber suit but not for the sequel, doesn't need to be changed.

 

[Wams]

Bale got all buffed out for nothing, cuz they coverd him all up
with rubber muscles.

 

[AnimeJune]

Bale got all buffed out for nothing, cuz they coverd him all up
with rubber muscles.

He didn't get buffed up for nothing - those shirtless scenes were very nice.

 

[lujho]

I think these designs could be interpreted as either sculpted rubber OR just something like smooth-skin neoprene (i.e. wetsuit) with seams in it. There's nothing about the drawings that neccessarily say it's either or.

What I like about them is that they're organic but not overly anatomical - it's not an attempt to directly portray human musculature, just to hint at it. That's the way I wish the Begins suit had gone.

The arms and legs of the Begins suit are actually close in concept to these - and you can see how it might have evolved from them - as people said right when the first Begins suit pics came out, the arms and legs are much more organic looking than the slightly more mechanical/robotic/"busy" abdomen.

 

[DAVIDYR1]

Bale got all buffed out for nothing, cuz they coverd him all up
with rubber muscles.

Having Bale all buffed out means Bruce Wayne is convincing as a possible Batman. If Wayne is buff, tough and big, then makes sense that Bats would be able to do all those things.
That's one of the problems I had with Keaton...sure, he looked awesome as Bats...then out of costume we were supposed to believe he could hold someone over a roof top?
Nah...dont think so. Thats why rubber or no rubber Bale all buffed out works. I love the Begins suit, and would love to see it return, and could be fine with something different I suppose...but I am all about the rubber.

I will happily entertain other versions though. The sketches here are cool for instance.

DAvid

 

[El Payaso]

I think because the way the ears were designed they were shorter it made the cowl come off different.

what???

 

[AnimeJune]

Having Bale all buffed out means Bruce Wayne is convincing as a possible Batman. If Wayne is buff, tough and big, then makes sense that Bats would be able to do all those things.
That's one of the problems I had with Keaton...sure, he looked awesome as Bats...then out of costume we were supposed to believe he could hold someone over a roof top?
Nah...dont think so. Thats why rubber or no rubber Bale all buffed out works. I love the Begins suit, and would love to see it return, and could be fine with something different I suppose...but I am all about the rubber.

I will happily entertain other versions though. The sketches here are cool for instance.

DAvid

I agree on all counts - that's the reason Topher Grace is currently lifting iron in order to passify the crazed "Venom is frickken HUGE" fanboys, even though once he's actually possessed by the Spider-Man symbiote it won't make any difference.

 

[superkong 500]

I think that they shouldn't change the suit much,for example the cowl is beautifull the lines on the cheeckbones made it look as he was this creature which was the main purpose of course, I think the only thing they need to change is to make the suit's rubber thinner,try to make the neoprene layers thinner or use a material that sticks more to his body so it doesn't wrinkle that much and at the same time it doesn't make him look so bulky. that's it I wouldn't change anything else.

 

[Whack Arnolds]

Having Bale all buffed out means Bruce Wayne is convincing as a possible Batman. If Wayne is buff, tough and big, then makes sense that Bats would be able to do all those things.
That's one of the problems I had with Keaton...sure, he looked awesome as Bats...then out of costume we were supposed to believe he could hold someone over a roof top?
Nah...dont think so. Thats why rubber or no rubber Bale all buffed out works. I love the Begins suit, and would love to see it return, and could be fine with something different I suppose...but I am all about the rubber.

I will happily entertain other versions though. The sketches here are cool for instance.

DAvid

Exactly, David explains it beautifully. I also like the aspect of the Costume being a hard armor, and being big just adds to the credibility of it and makes it seem as though he can actually fight crime. I have also always had a fascination with the movie's Batman having his 'suit of armor' locked away in the costume vault. Seeing him open it, and looking into what looks like his 'inner most fear' or creature to which he wants to become was always symbolic with me. From B89 when he opens the vault, and looks into the beast's eyes (the costume in the vault)...he sort of transforms himself mentally and physically by doing that process. It would look awkward seeing a t-shirt hanging on a hangar. It seems more mythic to see a hard sculpted armor there, because it looks as if it is actually alive. Kind of like the ritual ancient samuari, gladiators and ninja went through when putting on their armor and masks. Does anyone get what I am trying to say? lol

 

[DAVIDYR1]

Exactly, David explains it beautifully. I also like the aspect of the Costume being a hard armor, and being big just adds to the credibility of it and makes it seem as though he can actually fight crime. I have also always had a fascination with the movie's Batman having his 'suit of armor' locked away in the costume vault. Seeing him open it, and looking into what looks like his 'inner most fear' or creature to which he wants to become was always symbolic with me. From B89 when he opens the vault, and looks into the beast's eyes (the costume in the vault)...he sort of transforms himself mentally and physically by doing that process. It would look awkward seeing a t-shirt hanging on a hangar. It seems more mythic to see a hard sculpted armor there, because it looks as if it is actually alive. Kind of like the ritual ancient samuari, gladiators and ninja went through when putting on their armor and masks. Does anyone get what I am trying to say? lol

Yup...I hear ya.
In defense of a material 'type' suit though he 'could' have armor underneath a given 'fabric' or fabrick looking material. I think 'most' are happy with the way Bats was seen on film. Let's face it, you dont really see the suit clearly in the film. It's mostly all black and not easily seen in it's details. Many are fixated on some screen caps or pubblicity photos clearly showing folds or buckles in the foam latex but again, those are still shots and nothing like what we got from the film.
The whole transforming into the Bat is key. Worked for 89...worked for Forever I thought..I know I know, you guys are going to kill me for that but hey, I dug forever and thought the opening scene was cool. Begins really got that aspect of transforming into the Batman so I really want MORE in the next one.
All good points here I think and sure, even in still shots we all want to be satisfied by what we're going to get but for me, maybe because I make costumes for a living...I dont mind the buckling one bit. He's not Iron Man or RoboCop so if the suit bends...I'd cool with it. I do understand that most arn't happy with that and many want that worked on for the next film so with some luck all of us will yell 'yippie' when the next one hits.

Man...I cant wait for the hype to really start building all over again. I really enjoyed posting here while we were all waiting the release of the film.

David

 

[Wams]

Once again I believe people have lost the point of Batman in favor of a FAKE "Realism".
Batman is suppose to be such a "badmuther***er" that he doesn't rely on
weapons and in turn does not fear them(Because He is THE weapon). . He ain’t no fool he does not want to get shot...That's why I thought it dumb that in the Burton film Bat's got shot on
purpose in the first 10 minutes of the film.
I believe Batman got trained by the best for a reason.
To become the best.
He should have been treated like Remo Williams...(Rent it)
Look Bruce Timm's Batman is by far the best we ever seen on the
small and big screen. In the opening titles he was dodging bullets. Did they EVER mention bodyarmor...NO!
Why? Because it was not necessary. The story's where not talking
down to any one either.
The movies can't say that.
You loose the magic of the character when you explain to much.
Next you will want to know if Bat wipes with one or two ply.

Besides a hollywood "rubber suit" aint gonna protect $#!+ in reality.

 

[Bathead]

This is one thing I could never understand about the Comic style suit vs. the movies style suit argument. The pro-movie faction seems to think that because someone says they would like the suit to look as it does in the comics that they are arguing against Batman wearing armor. On the contrary, nobody has ever argued he doesn't wear armor, the argument at it's heart is whether or not it should *look* like he's wearing armor, having it look as it does in the comics does *not* preclude the wearing of armor as it has been stated more than once in the comics that he does indeed wear armor. Why does it have to look like armor? It's not necessary, but some get adamant that it needs to look like it or people won't understand that he is armored.

 

[DAVIDYR1]

Well let's look at it from a 'business' point of view...Toys, lunchboxes, action figures....
The whole 'marketing machine' if you will...

With a Grey (or blue and black) and black 'material like' like the comic version they can license a gazillion items...throw in the movie rubber suit...black and rubbery...a whole new line of licensed items.

They have essentially 2 versions of Batman to play with..big money machine.
I dont ever believe we'll see anything other than rubber suits on the big screen and the comic version for cartoons and regular every day pop culture.

Having said that, hell yea, he doesnt necessarily have to 'look' like he's wearing armor. The new Superman costume with foam undersuit and Spiderman movie suits show us that it can work, but...this is the direction they've taken for whatever reason.
Me personally, I love it. Do I agree with WAMS last post...hell yea, but I doubt we'll get anything remotely like that ever.
Batman is probably the number one money maker as far as superhero's go. You dont see camoflauge Spiderman or Boxing Superman action figures flying off of the shelves yet every single version of Bats is a seller...that's the logic I believe behind the design we continue to get and I gotta say I dig it.

I'm a Batman fan...not a rubber fan..lots of different versions of the suit could work on film...for now it's rubber, and for now I dig it.

Show me a cool fabric style suit and I can assure you I'd dig that too.

David

 

[Atomic Crusader]

I'd really like to see the standard suit from the comics portrayed on film. White eyes, grey suit, yellow oval, blue sheen. The Neal Adams look. Suspend reality with that and then place him in a near real life context. Till then the BB suit will do, its great.

 

[Wams]

I think these designs could be interpreted as either sculpted rubber OR just something like smooth-skin neoprene (i.e. wetsuit) with seams in it. There's nothing about the drawings that neccessarily say it's either or.

What I like about them is that they're organic but not overly anatomical - it's to an attempt to directly portray human musculature, just to hint at it. That's the way I wish the Begins suit had gone.

The arms and legs of the Begins suit are actually close in concept to these - and you can see how it might have evolved from them - as people said right when the first Begins suit pics came out, the arms and legs are much more organic looking than the slightly more mechanical/robotic/"busy" abdomen.

"smooth-skin neoprene (i.e. wetsuit) with seams in it"

That is exactly what it should be.
Like a special ops navy seal get up.
Nothing more.