Battleship - Part 1

[Rowsdower!]

I like her (almost every one of her albums are on my Ipod) so I don't get it. I mean yeah the Chris Brown thing is ******ed but I still like her.

I mean, Decker is a freakin model and didn't do a good job either. I honestly was shocked that actual so-called professional actors were as bad as they were, including the soul sucking vacum of charisma that is Taylor Kitsch. Taylor Kitsch makes me think god that when have young actors in action movies with actual charisma and not completely sucky acting.

Don't worry Spidey, Taylor is getting his too:

http://gawker.com/5911981/is-taylor-kitschs-blockbuster-movie-career-already-over

Is Taylor Kitsch’s Blockbuster Movie Career Already Over?

2012: The year that Hollywood took a chance on Taylor Kitsch and failed miserably. John Carter cost an estimated $250 in production alone and returned about $72 million domestically since its March 9 release. Battleship opened this past weekend to the lowest domestic opening numbers ever for a film with a budget with $200 million or above: $25.3 million. The film cost an estimated $209 million to make.

Riding almost $500 million on Taylor Kitsch was a foolish gamble given his bland aesthetics—he's almost anonymously attractive and competent at best in both Carter and Batteship—and also because his most famous role was on the show Friday Night Lights, a notoriously under-watched cult sensation. All of the "Texas Forevers" and surly beer swigs in the world couldn't suggest this guy was ready for post-primetime.

Kitsch leapt to the big screen without John Carter's noted bone density/career stability to support him, but he also wasn't helped by the fact that fans of FNL simply can't see past the Riggins they learned to love. He'll always be that to them. He could be a victim of the Friends effect, except Friends was massive enough to outsize most blockbusters. Kitsch may be in the unfortunate predicament of having a relatively obscure, small-screen character from his past eclipse what could have otherwise been a legend-making film career.

Is there hope for him? Who knows. His presence wasn't enough to sail John Carter or Battleship, but both had problems not even the most no-brainer box office draw could have transcended. (Note that reliable performer Liam Neeson did nothing to rustle up interest for Battleship, nor did pop royalty Rihanna, who got all the best lines, even. The entire ensemble was dead in the exploding water.) Both films have made upwards of $200 million each in foreign box office numbers (Battleship has been out for weeks overseas), so things aren't a total wash. But the U.S. numbers are indicative of Kitsch's lack of power in these giant corporate machines. He is not the hero we want or need, and he's certainly no threat to Ryan Gosling or Channing Tatum, who's having a deservedly splendid year.

Kitsch is scheduled to next appear in and even headline Oliver Stone's Savages, out July 6. (He's first billed in IMDb.) Maybe out of the confines of big-budget ********, he will shine. Or maybe he'll be Riggins forever.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

It will be tough for Kitsch to come back from this. Hollywood chews up and spits out actors all the time and there is a long list of failed actors just like him.

 

[Raiden]

It will be tough for Kitsch to come back from this. Hollywood chews up and spits out actors all the time and there is a long list of failed actors just like him.

I think I mentioned it in another post somewhere that even established movie stars like Ben Affleck was perceived as a box office poison after his movie Gigli failed at the box office, and it wasn't budgeted as highly as either John Carter or Battleship did. Right or wrong, Kitsch will be stigmatized after these two $200 million turkey, and Hollywood (being as risk-averse as they are), won't want to take another chance on him again in the near future as the leading man, even if his next movie Savages do well.

 

[Raiden]

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[Poeman]

I like Kitsch, but he is no leading actor

 

[The Morningstar]

Problem is he was thrown in at the deep end. He's not just give two leading roles... he's given two leading roles in 200 million dollar movies where the pressure to deliver is ridiculously high.

The guy should have started out in some smaller films first, or if he was to do big films, have him in supporting roles.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

Problem is he was thrown in at the deep end. He's not just give two leading roles... he's given two leading roles in 200 million dollar movies where the pressure to deliver is ridiculously high.

The guy should have started out in some smaller films first, or if he was to do big films, have him in supporting roles.

Problem is he signed on to two crappy movies, both movies weren't going to do anything no matter who starred in them. They were paint by numbers "blockbusters" trying to do what Transformers did and just cash in on the nostaglia factor. However, John Carter was never in Transformers league and there's no substance behind Battleship so they had to make something up and what the made up was awful.

 

[EML420]

The Hollywood machine really took a likeing to him and tryed to push him heck if both movies John Carter and Battleship made money he would just be the American Sam Worthington. Worthington has been in some huge movies but hes still not really a house hold name.

 

[Raiden]

Problem is he signed on to two crappy movies, both movies weren't going to do anything no matter who starred in them. They were paint by numbers "blockbusters" trying to do what Transformers did and just cash in on the nostaglia factor. However, John Carter was never in Transformers league and there's no substance behind Battleship so they had to make something up and what the made up was awful.

Well, people aren't going to hear what his reasons were to star in those two movies, merely that he was the leading man in both and like other actors who appear in other expensive turds, he will be tarnished for quite some time unless he can repair his reputation by getting small but acclaimed roles, and work his way up. If his next role with Oliver Stone bombs, though, he might be given one-way ticket to direct-to-DVD flicks.

 

[Marvin]

Problem is he signed on to two crappy movies, both movies weren't going to do anything no matter who starred in them. They were paint by numbers "blockbusters" trying to do what Transformers did and just cash in on the nostaglia factor. However, John Carter was never in Transformers league and there's no substance behind Battleship so they had to make something up and what the made up was awful.

agreed

TK hasn't really failed anything, it's the movies and their makers that's been lacking. If that was Kitsch in Avatar, doing no better or worse a job than in these two bombs, we'd be having a very different conversation right now.

That being said Will Smith would have made both these films hits, no doubt.

 

[Lencho01]

LMAO, Every line of dialogue Rihanna says in Battleship:

http://www.vulture.com/2012/05/read-every-line-rihanna-says-in-battleship.html

I hope someone makes a video out of it.

 

[obin_gam]

agreed

TK hasn't really failed anything, it's the movies and their makers that's been lacking. If that was Kitsch in Avatar, doing no better or worse a job than in these two bombs, we'd be having a very different conversation right now.

That being said Will Smith would have made both these films hits, no doubt.

No. Look at where Sam Worthington is now. After Avatar he was "the next big thing" but then he crashed and failed over and over again and now he's sporting mullets and doing b-grade blockbusters like Wrath of the titans.

 

[Raiden]

No. Look at where Sam Worthington is now. After Avatar he was "the next big thing" but then he crashed and failed over and over again and now he's sporting mullets and doing b-grade blockbusters like Wrath of the titans.

Yeah, Sam Worthington couldn't even make Terminator: Salvation into a hit. I'm sure he's waiting for Avatar 2 to arrive so he can attach his name to James Cameron's next blockbuster again.

 

[Octoberist]

I think I mentioned it in another post somewhere that even established movie stars like Ben Affleck was perceived as a box office poison after his movie Gigli failed at the box office, and it wasn't budgeted as highly as either John Carter or Battleship did. Right or wrong, Kitsch will be stigmatized after these two $200 million turkey, and Hollywood (being as risk-averse as they are), won't want to take another chance on him again in the near future as the leading man, even if his next movie Savages do well.

And it took him years to recover and that happene when his directing career picked up with Gone Baby Gone. And now he's in a Malick film and will be directing The Stand. Who knew?

 

[Octoberist]

Yeah, Sam Worthington could even make Terminator: Salvation into a hit. I'm sure he's waiting for Avatar 2 to arrive so he can attach his name to James Cameron's next blockbuster again.

And Sam is still anonymous with the public after being in 5 mainstream films.

 

[Liam_H]

That should speak volumes. Only time he's ever seemed interesting was The Debt. You would think people would actually recognize his name at least by now after being in a lot of high profile movies in the past few years. But when it comes up people don't.

 

[Raiden]

And it took him years to recover and that happene when his directing career picked up with Gone Baby Gone. And now he's in a Malick film and will be directing The Stand. Who knew?

Gonna give it to Affleck, though. After the Gigli fiasco, he broke up with JLo, married Jennifer Garner, and focused on shooting novel adaptations that centered around his hometown Boston. Both GBG and The Town were well-received, and he's on his way to be taken seriously as a director. Even his acting skills seemed to have improved. For actors like Kitsch who may be blacklisted from leading man roles, he can take a look at Affleck and see how he can make a comeback later on. But first, he will have to prove that he's a good actor by doing supporting roles in acclaimed movies, and go from there.

 

[Marvin]

No. Look at where Sam Worthington is now. After Avatar he was "the next big thing" but then he crashed and failed over and over again and now he's sporting mullets and doing b-grade blockbusters like Wrath of the titans.

That doesn't change the fact that immediately post a film he was himself in that happened to be very popular inspite of him, no one was calling his career over. Moreover Titans may have been a B picture but it got a sequel and is considered one of WB's money making properties.

Kitsch just needs to stop signing up for films that are due to bomb...especially those released right after the biggest film(s) of the year.

 

[Project862006]

Problem is he was thrown in at the deep end. He's not just give two leading roles... he's given two leading roles in 200 million dollar movies where the pressure to deliver is ridiculously high.

The guy should have started out in some smaller films first, or if he was to do big films, have him in supporting roles.

he actually did with supporting roles in films like

snake on a plane
the covenant
then the big bang club
and of course with wolverine
he also had friday night lights tv show

 

[The Morningstar]

With GOOD smaller films.

 

[dark_b]

Yeah, Sam Worthington couldn't even make Terminator: Salvation into a hit. I'm sure he's waiting for Avatar 2 to arrive so he can attach his name to James Cameron's next blockbuster again.

how and why would Sam Worthington make TS a hit? he was cast by MCG because he filmed a James Cameron scifi movie. and TS was realesed before Avatar. Bale was the known actor in TS. it was 1 year after the big TDK.
why would Sam make TS a hit when he was a 100% unknown in the US?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

If Colin *box office poison* Ferrell can get the lead in a big budget action movie like Total Recall, Kitsch can too but it took Ferrell many years after his failures to get that lead role and guess what he did? Gave good performances in smaller films. That's what Kitsch has to do to survive, I don't see him doing it because I think he sucks at acting but who knows? Channing Tatum was excellent in 21 Jump Street and I didn't think much of him before.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yea with Farrell, he may have been in some bad films with poor box office returns, but I always thought he was a decent actor. He always had something about him, that spark and swagger. It did make him polarizing, you either love or hate the guy. But it's better than being just a bland cipher.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Yea with Farrell, he may have been in some bad films with poor box office returns, but I always thought he was a decent actor. He always had something about him, that spark and swagger. It did make him polarizing, you either love or hate the guy. But it's better than being just a bland cipher.

Agreed.

 

[C. Lee]

I think the thing that hurt Farrell there for a bit was his drinking problems. It led to bad choices, some less than decent performances, and the start of bad talk about his work habits.