Birds of Prey BoP Box Office Thread

[Predator jp]

Are they seriously expecting Japan to give it 10M+? Aquaman made 15M

it's possible. every DC films except Shazam and Joker made around 10m-20m.

 

[Fincher]

Japan likes outlandish stuff. I could see them responding to Harley in this.

 

[Mani-Man]

Japan likes outlandish stuff. I could see them responding to Harley in this.

Yeah, its wacky enough to work in japan...but hard to say.
Would be nice if it breaks even or makes minimal profit.

It would suck if that would already be the end of the BOP just because WB put way too much money into the making/marketing of the movie.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

 

[MadVillainy]

It's about feeding a demand. When Doolittle came out and didn't hit their numbers you kept hearing that phrase, "no one asked for that movie" and I think it's a fair statement especially in that instance. So I wouldn't recact so strongly to people saying that... No one did ask for this movie --- sometime s we want movies we didn't even know we wanted, not sure if that's the case for BOP. This wknd the picture will become a lot more clear.

Dolittle didn't flop because no one asked for it. It flopped because the movie looked like it sucked eggs.

So many movies people don't ask for or at least not that many people were asking for are still successful. ANd they are successful due to a combination of quality filmmaking and quality marketing. You have to make people care. You can't just do what everyone wants.

 

[Micromind]

I don't think they spent a lot of money marketing this, usually mid-budget (around $150 mil) movies have a marketing budget of $100 mil, if they are summer releases.

A rough way to estimate budget is to assume as much budget for marketing as the movie's production budget, for example $80 mil movie may have $80 mil marketing budget (not always true, but it gives you a good idea.)

So, for BoP with $85 mil budget and around $80 mil marketing budget, if we take formula of 2 times the production budget + marketing budget, it gives us
2 x $85 mil + $ 80 mil. = $250 mil.

(I know the other method is to calculate 50% of US collections +25 % of China Collections +40 % of rest of the world collections, since BoP was not released in China, let's leave that out.)

if BoP manages to make around $220 mil, then with added revenues from streaming+merch+Bluray sales, the movie could break even.

 

[kguillou]

Dolittle didn't flop because no one asked for it. It flopped because the movie looked like it sucked eggs.

So many movies people don't ask for or at least not that many people were asking for are still successful. ANd they are successful due to a combination of quality filmmaking and quality marketing. You have to make people care. You can't just do what everyone wants.

I do think theres always the possibility of converting something from “something no one asked for” into something people didnt know they wanted. Aquaman came out of BvS and JL, a strong argument couldve been made that nobody wanted any more of Zack Snyder’s creations (see JL’s reception and box office) after those movies and lo and behold James Wan turned it into gold.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

I do think theres always the possibility of converting something from “something no one asked for” into something people didnt know they wanted. Aquaman came out of BvS and JL, a strong argument couldve been made that nobody wanted any more of Zack Snyder’s creations (see JL’s reception and box office) after those movies and lo and behold James Wan turned it into gold.

There's that quote isn't there, often attributed to Henry Ford (apparently there's some debate as to whether he actually said it),

“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”

 

[Micromind]

Not surprised at this article by SR

 

[Micromind]

People are comparing the performance of BoP with Sonic. That's like comparing Apples to Oranges.

But, whats worrying is that Sonic could end up making more than Detective Pikachu, WB needs to figure out where they failed.

 

[MadVillainy]

There's that quote isn't there, often attributed to Henry Ford (apparently there's some debate as to whether he actually said it),

“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”

I quoted it in here like last week when people came with the same tired "no one asked for this" argument

I do think theres always the possibility of converting something from “something no one asked for” into something people didnt know they wanted. Aquaman came out of BvS and JL, a strong argument couldve been made that nobody wanted any more of Zack Snyder’s creations (see JL’s reception and box office) after those movies and lo and behold James Wan turned it into gold.

For sure

 

[Catoti]

People are comparing the performance of BoP with Sonic. That's like comparing Apples to Oranges.

Yeah, it's completely unreasonable to compare them. One is a family film, the other has an R rating and the two are completely different genres.

Twitter seems to obsessed with either bashing BoP or Sonic, depending on what you're looking at, it's insane.

 

[Sithborg]

There can only be one winner. Its a zero sum game to a lot of these people.

 

[Greenlite]

some idiots still think BOP's box office is a disaster, lol.

Green Lantern's the definition of a disaster, 200M WW off a 300M budget

 

[Micromind]

some idiots still think BOP's box office is a disaster, lol.

Green Lantern's the definition of a disaster, 200M WW off a 300M budget

If that's the case, then how can they call this a success ?

The Incredible Hulk (2008)

Budget $150 M
Domestic $135 M (50.9%)
International $130 M (49.1%)
Worldwide $265 M

 

[Greenlite]

Harley will be fine as long as WB get their admin s*** sorted, I do believe though if her future films do well BOP cast will have a chance in one of the cross over films and if it makes a lot of money then their own BOP film, but that'd be a longer shot.

Another chance BOP has IMO is to get Barbara esp Batgirl in there as a lead, but again Margot has to fire financially first.

Not sure what Reeves wanna do, if Gunn is revealing stuff and teasing/denying over the last few months. Will find out next year.

 

[Micromind]

Matt Reeves has got a separate, independent franchise, and he has got a lot of creative freedom, so he can have a different version of Harley Quin, and other Bat characters in his movie trilogy.

I know few DC fans are more excited for his movies, we will see what happens.

 

[MadVillainy]

Fantastic Beasts/Wizarding World should've been a huge money maker for them. I don't get what the hell they are doing

 

[SomeOldGuy]

 

[Mani-Man]

NO ONE CAN SAY DC has been consistent at making money

Ehm compared to it...yes they did.
MOS made big money, BVS, Aquaman, WW, SS...hell even JL made big money.

Out of 8 released movies, only 2 arent making big money.
And that is Shazam and currently BOP...that leaves 6 movies since 8 years that consistently made money for WB.

 

[Sithborg]

Fantastic Beasts/Wizarding World should've been a huge money maker for them. I don't get what the hell they are doing

Simple. It got Lucas'ed.

 

[daddydivine]

If that's the case, then how can they call this a success ?

The Incredible Hulk (2008)

Budget $150 M
Domestic $135 M (50.9%)
International $130 M (49.1%)
Worldwide $265 M

Who is this "They"?

Edward Norton Says Marvel Dropped His Plan for Dark Two-Film ‘Incredible Hulk’

 

[Erzengel]

If that's the case, then how can they call this a success ?

The Incredible Hulk (2008)

Budget $150 M
Domestic $135 M (50.9%)
International $130 M (49.1%)
Worldwide $265 M

You're talking about the 2nd movie in a franchise that was still building to Avengers. I don't think fans, not that the Marvel fanbase was critical mass by their 2nd movie, were applauding the success. But BOP is the 8th DCEU movie, 2nd in the row that's been underwhelming after Shazam.

 

[Filmfreak]

Ehm compared to it...yes they did.
MOS made big money, BVS, Aquaman, WW, SS...hell even JL made big money.

Justice League bombed spectacularly. It made the studio lose around 100 million according to reports. Man of Steel and BvS while not unsuccesful they were surely underwhelming in the box office, hence the lack of sequel to the former and the studio meddling in subsequent movies of the latter.

 

[Mani-Man]

Justice League bombed spectacularly. It made the studio lose around 100 million according to reports. Man of Steel and BvS while not unsuccesful they were surely underwhelming in the box office, hence the lack of sequel to the former and the studio meddling in subsequent movies of the latter.

Oh yeah, i was thinking about the budget.
Still 5 out of 8 is still very consistent in terms of money making.