Bought Thought 10/22/08

[iloveclones]

So by the looks of what happened in SI 7 and Thunderbolts it looks as if Osborn could possibly be the new director of Sheild.

I never thought of that, but if done well, might be a cool idea.

 

[KangConquers]

Captain America #43:

After last months super climax, I was worried that this month would be a bit of a dissapointment; and while this issue asks a lot more questions than providing answers, it paves the way for the logical next step in the Captain America comic. Bru introduces a new villain, revamps an old villain, and puts Bucky in the middle of a possible international incident.

Luke Ross's art actually blends well with Epting; both are servicable to the story, as opposed to overpowering the story like say, Red Hulk's art. Truth be told, I've always considered D'Armata the real hero of Captain America's art; his dark shading and his muted color palatte is really what gives Cap it's current edginess, and even with out Epting, that remains.

Overall, a great issue.

Rating: 8.5



SI #7

This was just lame. It was a big melee, and nothing I hadn't been predicting for months occured; we got a New Captain Marvel and Wasp is used as a weapon against the heroes. Though it didn't explicitly say, there's no way Wasp survives what's happening to her.

The ideas were so good, but the execution wasn't dramatic at all; I for one am not a huge fan of Yu's art style. I find it far too sketchy for a series like this, which I see as requiring a larger than life, super hero style of art. The dialogue is pretty insipid, and the whole thing, down the death of Vernake made me feel absolutely nothing.

I will give this an extra point for introducing the new Captain Marvel.

Rating: 5.0

 

[Eros]

I never thought of that, but if done well, might be a cool idea.

Are you out your flipping mind, Osborn is maniac,rapist,pedopile,murderer, and A class one Nut Job in every sense of the word. Thats like Joker being elected mayor of Gotham, or Dr.Doom winning the Peace prize.

 

[KangConquers]

Are you out your flipping mind, Osborn is maniac,rapist,pedopile,murderer, and A class one Nut Job in every sense of the word. Thats like Joker being elected mayor of Gotham, or Dr.Doom winning the Peace prize.

Yet at the same time, he's not an Osama Bin Laden/ Public Enemy #1 terrorist (like say, The Red Skull is) so it's something that could actually happen.

 

[Brainiac 8]

You are talking about a universe where the government hires known murderer psychos to hunt down and possibly kill heroes.

Why would it be much more of a stretch?

 

[deathshead2]

How the hell do your comic shops get stuff this early? The guy at my shop is usually still working on bagging and boarding most of the non-subscription comics by the time I get there at 5:30 in the afternoon.

THats why because your guy goes the extra mile. I don't know many comic shops that bag and board comics for people. At my shop you have to get your own.

 

[Eros]

You are talking about a universe where the government hires known murderer psychos to hunt down and possibly kill heroes.

Why would it be much more of a stretch?

Because hireing badguys to hunt badguys is one thing, hireing a supreme Maniac to run a top goverment agency is quite another.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

but he is not only hunting bad guys he is hunting unregistered heroes and the like

 

[RockSP]

Because hireing badguys to hunt badguys is one thing, hireing a supreme Maniac to run a top goverment agency is quite another.

They weren't just hunting bad guys. The were hunting and crippling and eating heroes too.

 

[Eros]

They weren't just hunting bad guys. The were hunting and crippling and eating heroes too.

Were they running America's top defense agency!?

 

[fifthfiend]

Because hireing badguys to hunt badguys is one thing, hireing a supreme Maniac to run a top goverment agency is quite another.

They made Red ****ing Skull the Secretary of Defense.

 

[KangConquers]

You are talking about a universe where the government hires known murderer psychos to hunt down and possibly kill heroes.

Why would it be much more of a stretch?

To Hire Red Skull? or Norman?

 

[Eros]

They made Red ****ing Skull the Secretary of Defense, what on Earth do you think is beyond these people?

did people know he was the Red skull?

 

[KangConquers]

They made Red ****ing Skull the Secretary of Defense, what on Earth do you think is beyond these people?

Uh...no they didn't? What the hell are you talking about...?

 

[KangConquers]

did people know he was the Red skull?

Exactly. NO ONE knows what the Red Skull looks like without his skull...depending on the era.

They would never hire Red Skull for anything; Red Skull makes Norman look like a school boy who's run a few stop signs.

 

[RockSP]

Were they running America's top defense agency!?

My point is you made it seem like they put foxes to catch other foxes so to speak. They had crazed villains going after people who were considered heroes just weeks earlier.

This is a fictional superhero universe. The government sends giant robots after citizens because they are born with powers. Hiring a psycho to head up SHIELD isn't impossible (not that I'd want to see him there...I thought it was stupid that they put him in charge of the Thunderbolts).

 

[fifthfiend]

Uh...no they didn't?

Wiki it.

did people know he was the Red skull?

He was in "disguise" but whatevs, it's the Red ****ing Skull. Even if the entire US government suddenly sucks at obvious anagrams (I mean, "Dell Rusk"? Was there already a "Sred Dkull" running the Treasury department or something?), the bit where he bursts out cackling four times a day about his diabolical plan to crush Captain America and then all of the world's inferior races would presumably be a giveaway. Only it wasn't, because a cackling maniac hell-bent on some insane power-mad scheme blends into Marvel's US Government the same way that a thing blends into a group of things which are exactly like the first thing.

 

[BrianWilly]

Just jumping in to say:

Final Crisis #4
This was so ****ing good. This was awesome. Checkmate is awesome. Alan Scott is awesome. The Watchtowers and everything else were awesome.

Final Crisis #5: Barry goes around Frenching everyone on the planet. I'd buy that.

(9.8 out of 10)


Final Crisis: Submit
Pretty decent. Ties so much into FC #4 that it may as well be an extended portion of that issue. People are saying that you should read it before reading FC #4, but I read it afterwards and I wasn't all that jilted. The art gets a little stiff sometimes unfortunately, like Clark just couldn't understand what expressions Morrison wanted these characters to have. It has to be said, this isn't an uncommon problem with Morrison.

(7.9 out of 10)


Hella late, but eh.
Final Crisis: Revelations #3
Y'know what I realized while reading through this? The issue's not bad. But if you skip through all those god-forgiven text boxes of the Radiant -- Sister Claire Coeur ("Coeur"? Coeur?? R U 4 REAL) -- and just read through the action and spoken dialogue on the page, the issue easily becomes much smoother and so much better as a story. Her blessed narration was just too distracting, too wordy, and often times had only tentative connections to whatever the heck was actually going on in the story at the time. Connecting the Anti-Life Equation to a spiritual denouncement of free will was a very cool touch, but that's about all the touch that should have been here. We really didn't need all that Winicky textbox prose, all it did was interfere with the cool **** happening on the page. And there was a helluva lot of that going on.

(7 out of 10)
(9.4 out of 10 w/out the text boxes)

 

[RockSP]

the same way that a thing blends into a group of things which are exactly like the first thing.

That, sir, was amusing.

 

[iloveclones]

Are you out your flipping mind, Osborn is maniac,rapist,pedopile,murderer, and A class one Nut Job in every sense of the word. Thats like Joker being elected mayor of Gotham, or Dr.Doom winning the Peace prize.

I didn't say it was a good idea. I said it was a cool idea.

 

[BrianWilly]

The Marvel Universe. "Our ideas don't have to be good, just cool." up:

 

[Brainiac 8]

To Hire Red Skull? or Norman?

To hire Norman as Director of Shield.

Also, is it much different than constantly putting Gyrick in charge of their constant attempts at genocide.

 

[iloveclones]

Somehow, I doubt that is specific to the MU

 

[GNR]

Holy yowza,I read through both event books this week.

FC looked rushed and poor for an event book,while SI looked great but had some laughable dialog.

 

[imdaly]

Are you out your flipping mind, Osborn is maniac,rapist,pedopile,murderer, and A class one Nut Job in every sense of the word. Thats like Joker being elected mayor of Gotham, or Dr.Doom winning the Peace prize.

...or Lex Luthor being elected President of the USA.