BvS BvS Rottentomatoes score - how important will it be, and what do you hope for? - Part 8

[DoomRulz]

The tomato score surprised me. I thought the film would at least be in the 60% range, 50s as worst.

 

[kaneluan06]

Saw it for a third time.

Almost considering making it a 6/10.

Pissed me off a lot less.

Stop burning your money

 

[Drizzle]

Very true. But the buzz is around now. I still remember seeing my first Batman movie on the big screen and all that came with it. Batman Forever at age 5.

That's the difference, though. Batman Forever is one of the most kid-friendly Batman movies out there and that's because Batman Returns was such a dark film. Much like Returns, Batman v. Superman has some pretty intense stuff in it for any kid under the age of maybe 8. As much as parts of it are marketed to them with action figures and breakfast cereal, Snyder didn't make this movie with kids in mind.

 

[Wylie Times]

That's the difference, though. Batman Forever is one of the most kid-friendly Batman movies out there and that's because Batman Returns was such a dark film. Much like Returns, Batman v. Superman has some pretty intense stuff in it for any kid under the age of maybe 8. As much as parts of it are marketed to them with action figures and breakfast cereal, Snyder didn't make this movie with kids in mind.

Yeah there are a few scene that I could easily see upsetting a lot of smaller kids. Plus the general dower tone of the movie isn't going to be something a lot of kids enjoy.

 

[The Guard]

Tony and Scarecrow are two of the most vocal opponents of this film here. The fact that they're changing their tune a bit is pretty telling.

This film is going to grow on a lot of people once they get over their initial disappointment that it wasn't quite what they wanted for the characters.

I urge everyone to see it again. This thing has layers.

 

[Suzanne78]

BR is pretty violent and sexually charged, but luckily my Mom had no clue about this stuff. She knew I loved Batman and thought ''hey they would be a great gift''.

[BLACKOUT]The scene in the bathtub is pretty harmless stuff, that I'm sure wouldn't fully register with him.

The fight itself is quite comic-booky but Superman's death is no more harrowing than Han Solo's and you can always explain thats he will be coming back.

The witch stuff with Martha is a little intense, but again Batman saves the day so its not too bad.[/BLACKOUT]

You know your son better than anyone, but it would be a shame if he missed out on it because of a few questionable scenes.

Ohhhhh... There's [BLACKOUT]witch stuff with Martha?[/BLACKOUT] I hadn't heard about that yet.

P.S. i'm not worried about being spoiled myself, I like knowing some of this stuff in advance before I let my son watch anything.

I think renting it will be the route we take. Easier to FF stuff. And Poni's post about seeing two kids crying over the end did kinda give me a red flag on this movie for the rugrat.

There is a surplus of LEGO DC movies for us to enjoy though!

 

[The Joker]

I urge everyone to see it again. This thing has layers.

So does sewage

 

[FunkMiller]

So does sewage

You win today.

 

[Nemeres]

I really am kind of baffled by the level of hate.

I mean, i'm not a blind fan loving the film just because it has my favorite hero in it. I thought MOS was an awful film, and still do now. But while there is still some residual disappointment and spill over from that, BvS is a MUCH stronger film. The writing is better, the overall story is much more interesting, the film flows better and is more coherent, and the universe it creates feels comic booky and hugely full of potential.

I just don't know why I keep finding myself in the minority in these situations. How can so few people have seen the same film I did? How can so few people have been excited, elated and hugely satisfied with it like I was?

I myself am just as baffled by this opposite end of the spectrum, I don't mean this aggressively. The film is so overtly clunky and sloppy, so apparently eager to decimate character and personality. I suspect I'll feel less harsh after a second watch, I usually do, and let the good shine a little brighter. Right now, though, I go back to one single scene: right after [BLACKOUT]the Capitol explodes[/BLACKOUT] and they cut to Superman amid the flames -- still stone-faced, still devoid of any agency, STILL moronically resigned to his own inefficiency. Instead of scrambling in despair for survivors, or anything else, anything at all. Not even then does he unclench. Not even ****ing then. I felt beyond outrage, just grinned because it felt like a joke, something that'd be right at home in a parody.

Michael Phillips from the Chicago Tribune joked that "Man of Steel is looking better every second", and some fanboys were hoping for that consensus just days ago, in the event that BVS conquered the world. I'd have never thought myself capable of agreeing.

 

[Mr.T]

The movie isn't as bad as critics are saying. I think the major letdown factor is driving a lot of the negativity.
No question, the movie has issues but it's not Paul Blart or Green Lantern bad.

 

[Aejej]

IM3 sure was about the quality of the film for me. Shane Black is the one who should never touch a Superhero movie again

Some truly bizarre stuff went down in that film. Shane loves his tropes. I've not had the desire to watch it since opening weekend. I didn't even get that feeling from Iron Man 2, though it, too was a big step down from the first film.

 

[JtheDreamer]

So does sewage

Winna-winna!

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I myself am just as baffled by this opposite end of the spectrum, I don't mean this aggressively. The film is so overtly clunky and sloppy, so apparently eager to decimate character and personality. I suspect I'll feel less harsh after a second watch, I usually do, and let the good shine a little brighter. Right now, though, I go back to one single scene: right after [BLACKOUT]the Capitol explodes[/BLACKOUT] and they cut to Superman amid the flames -- still stone-faced, still devoid of any agency, STILL moronically resigned to his own inefficiency. Instead of scrambling in despair for survivors, or anything else, anything at all. Not even then does he unclench. Not even ****ing then. I felt beyond outrage, just grinned because it felt like a joke, something that'd be right at home in a parody.

Michael Phillips from the Chicago Tribune joked that "Man of Steel is looking better every second", and some fanboys were hoping for that consensus just days ago, in the event that BVS conquered the world. I'd have never thought myself capable of agreeing.

The editing/pacing and flow of the story in MOS was awful and bothered me greatly. Here, I just don't see it... flows fine for me

You saw a stoney faced Superman? I saw a devastated Superman in shock and crying... It's like we literally watched different films...

MOS offended me as a Superman fan. BvS was like the apology for that in some ways, repairing a bit of the damage.

Look at all the awful things that happen because of his bad decisions in MOS. The whole film is basically the consequences of Superman smashing up the city and killing Zod - and showing negative consequences at least shows you recognise what he did was negative. I hated MOS so much because it ended in a way that felt like all that destruction and him killing was just going to be okay... but it wasn't, they make that clear in BvS and it's a relief to see.

No, it's not the Superman I know and love. But i've accepted that this universe is like Snyder's elseworlds story, and there are enough great moments that make it really enjoyable to me.

 

[Mjölnir]

Right one basically what they do with mighty Thor.t:

It would just be weird if Thor was Loki's emo brother.

 

[Nokio]

Stop burning your money

Hahahahahahahahaha, man that's funny! I saw it once ,i may go back to see it in imax but probably not because the closest imax only have two non 3d showing which is 11am and the one after. Im too busy in the day and i dont lije 3d so. I had some problems with the film but i did enjoy it but im not sure repeat viewings of 3 or more times of this movie is justified unless you are really in love with it. The only film ive seen more that twice at the theater was The Matrix. I love that film, still number 1 all time for me. BvS to me doesnt stand up for repeated viewings. I can see myself getting bored . i will see it again though to catch stuff i missed like what happened to Olsen, i didnt even know that was supposed to be him.

 

[Nokio]

I myself am just as baffled by this opposite end of the spectrum, I don't mean this aggressively. The film is so overtly clunky and sloppy, so apparently eager to decimate character and personality. I suspect I'll feel less harsh after a second watch, I usually do, and let the good shine a little brighter. Right now, though, I go back to one single scene: right after [BLACKOUT]the Capitol explodes[/BLACKOUT] and they cut to Superman amid the flames -- still stone-faced, still devoid of any agency, STILL moronically resigned to his own inefficiency. Instead of scrambling in despair for survivors, or anything else, anything at all. Not even then does he unclench. Not even ****ing then. I felt beyond outrage, just grinned because it felt like a joke, something that'd be right at home in a parody.

Michael Phillips from the Chicago Tribune joked that "Man of Steel is looking better every second", and some fanboys were hoping for that consensus just days ago, in the event th
at BVS conquered the world. I'd have never thought myself capable of agreeing.

Agreed. That's the first thing that popped into my mind at the Capitol incident. They could've
Shown him trying and still taken that shot. I enjoyed the film as a fan but i am not in love with it. WB dropped the ball about 30% . Everytrhing was there for a good to great film. I really believe the script needed a good screenwriter to polish it and bring the loose ends it had together. Im surprised Warners didnt do this with their two iconic characters.

 

[db85usa]

Agreed. That's the first thing that popped into my mind at the Capitol incident. They could've
Shown him trying and still taken that shot. I enjoyed the film as a fan but i am not in love with it. WB dropped the ball about 30% . Everytrhing was there for a good to great film. I really believe the script needed a good screenwriter to polish it and bring the loose ends it had together. Im surprised Warners didnt do this with their two iconic characters.

I agree. The Capitol scene had me outraged. It was the perfect moment for Superman to do something so heroic we haven't seen yet... but he

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just stood there. In angst. I'm tired of seeing Superman struggling. Stop being a ****y and start saving some a$$e$!

The problem is the writing. They need to write Superman much, much better. Batman is easy. Superman is the challenge and what I've seen thus far from the writing is pretty bad.

 

[DA_Champion]

I think this movie would have done better if it were a proper intellectual sequel to MoS.

Instead, they bring Superman to a hearing before congress... and then blow up congress and lose the plot point.

 

[Sarcastic Fan]

Zack Snyder takes a man who survived Superman's rampage in MoS (he lost his legs, though)... an equivalent of a 9/11 survivor and turns him into a suicide bomber. Just in case you want to know why I find this movie so disgusting and offensive.

 

[Supernova]

Zack Snyder takes a man who survived Superman's rampage in MoS (he lost his legs, though)... an equivalent of a 9/11 survivor and turns him into a suicide bomber. Just in case you want to know why I find this movie so disgusting and offensive.

I hardly doubt he was a suicide bomber, lex most likely promised him a oppurtunity to make superman look bad by telling his story. Just gave lex a way to plant a bomb. Pretty extreme jump you did there

 

[Avid Avenger]

Well, doesn't seem to be dropping in the audience rating anymore...

 

[DA_Champion]

This movie has only been out for less than a week, and the IMDB rating is already down to 7.5/10. At this point, GoTG and DoFP were among the top-10 highest-rated movies ever, and MoS had over an 8.0/10.

 

[JOE]

What pisses me off more than the movie itself is how much potential they had. This movie could have been great, but way too many things were working against it. This is the first movie with Batman that I won't be seeing more than once. I loved Affleck, but when he's not on screen I wanted to fall asleep, or just leave.

 

[Logan0327]

 

[Supernova]

See reviews like that come off looking stupid and with a clear axe to grind or agenda.

Then again I havent listened to critics since siskel and ebert died