First Avenger Captain America's Costume

[SpiderByte]

It screams something else to me, but it does start with the letter "S".

To each his own. Although I guess it isn't exactly true to the original comics, but still, its an interesting angle for it.

If they can get Kirby's suit to work well, then I'll be happy. But It won't be easy to get it done, Cap has a very, very different outfit from most heroes. The shield will be one of the tougher bits, making it look true to the comics while still looking good, mainly making it look aerodynamic when it'st thrown.

 

[Cuyan]

In combat, I'd rather see "soldier" than "spandex".

 

[roach]

To each his own. Although I guess it isn't exactly true to the original comics, but still, its an interesting angle for it.

If they can get Kirby's suit to work well, then I'll be happy. But It won't be easy to get it done, Cap has a very, very different outfit from most heroes. The shield will be one of the tougher bits, making it look true to the comics while still looking good, mainly making it look aerodynamic when it'st thrown.

the shield should be the easiest thing to do

 

[roach]

thats all good man, but the director has stated many times that he,s aiming to make a war movie. and guys are reading comics over in Iraq and Afghanistan too, how do you think theyd react to a guy running around wearing a flag in the middle of a combat zone? theyd probably think the guy was nuts. just because the guys read comics DOES NOT mean they would accept that in real life. i gaurantee theyd laugh in Caps face and call him a loon if you want to bring real life into this. and you can hate it all you want to, its not gonna change. theyre making this movie for people other than you and the changes are more than reasonable.

really...half the planet believed in blue aliens on another planet, robot transforming into cars, a boy wizard riding a broom stick, glittering vampires falling in love....written well you can get people to believe in anything

 

[SpiderByte]

The design, yes. But making it look like it has more functionality than, say, a trash can lid, will be the hard part.

 

[roach]

I still dont see how its going to be hard

 

[Art_of_Crime]

It screams something else to me, but it does start with the letter "S".

"stop whining"?

not to be a prick, but isn't this better than nothing?

i honestly think this looks great.

 

[SpiderByte]

Don't. Start. That. Again.

Keep the peace for at least 24 hours.

 

[Art_of_Crime]

fine.

 

[Kurosawa]

"stop whining"?

not to be a prick, but isn't this better than nothing?

i honestly think this looks great.

Change the brown to red and remove the star from the shoulder and it's acceptable.

 

[Kurosawa]

Grrr...here's something we can all agree on..weird hype lag sucks.

 

[Art_of_Crime]

Grrr...here's something we can all agree on..weird hype lag sucks.

agree, and as for your brown to red comment. works for me.

 

[roach]

add wings and Im happy

 

[louiebling$]

add wings and Im happy

This Wings are a Must

 

[SpiderByte]

Change the brown to red and remove the star from the shoulder and it's acceptable.

 

[roach]

and add the head wings

 

[Kurosawa]

Yeah, it is hard to have 'ol winghead without wings.

 

[irapogi]

You guys can say practical and sensical, but you want to know something? Do you know what soldiers were reading in the trenches of World War II? Soldiers were reading Captain America comic books. Soldiers back then didn't seem to care that the costume didn't make any sense. And this was a time when comics were outselling what they do now a hundred times over.

okay, sorry to be a party pooper, and as much as i'd love to agree with you, the sad truth, is that we're in a different time and milieu.

extreme example, back then, people thought it was okay to segregate "whites" and "coloreds"

so for today's general audience it might be hard for them to take a kirby captain america leading the trenches seriously.

me personally, i'd be okay with it, but that's cos i've been reading comics since the late 70s. but marvel studios can't make a movie that only caters to the hardcore fans.

so we can argue what's best for the fans but that's a moot point, what's best for the general public on the other hand, might not be agreed by all. But i'm a fan, not a fanatic. I'm slightly concerned with what Johnston said, but i'm thinking positive, and i'm open to be pleasantly surprised.

t:

peace

 

[TheVileOne]

thats all good man, but the director has stated many times that he,s aiming to make a war movie. and guys are reading comics over in Iraq and Afghanistan too, how do you think theyd react to a guy running around wearing a flag in the middle of a combat zone? theyd probably think the guy was nuts. just because the guys read comics DOES NOT mean they would accept that in real life. i gaurantee theyd laugh in Caps face and call him a loon if you want to bring real life into this. and you can hate it all you want to, its not gonna change. theyre making this movie for people other than you and the changes are more than reasonable.

OK, but this isn't just a war movie. Captain America never existed and never fought in World War II. A movie isn't real life either. You can't prove to me this or that would get laughed at.

 

[TheVileOne]

okay, sorry to be a party pooper, and as much as i'd love to agree with you, the sad truth, is that we're in a different time and milieu.

extreme example, back then, people thought it was okay to segregate "whites" and "coloreds"

Seriously man, what the hell are we talking about here? This is the same era that created Captain America, a white blond haired blue eyed superhero, so I guess that's WRONG as well?

so for today's general audience it might be hard for them to take a kirby captain america leading the trenches seriously.

Seriously man, Kirby isn't the only guy that worked on Captain America and was not the only guy to draw him fighting in World War II. There are multiple interpretations to go by. So it doesn't have to be forced to look exactly like the Kirby costume in World War II with a mask that was totally separate from the upper portion of the outfit and what not.

me personally, i'd be okay with it, but that's cos i've been reading comics since the late 70s. but marvel studios can't make a movie that only caters to the hardcore fans.

so we can argue what's best for the fans but that's a moot point, what's best for the general public on the other hand, might not be agreed by all. But i'm a fan, not a fanatic. I'm slightly concerned with what Johnston said, but i'm thinking positive, and i'm open to be pleasantly surprised.

How do you know so much about what the general public wants? Are you not aware that the Spider-man franchise is a multi-billion dollar movie franchise and he's basically wearing tights as his costume in all those movies? Compare that to how laughably bad the 70's TV costume was.

 

[weezerspider]

Fine. IN MY OPINION anyone who likes the idea of Kirby's design being used as a silly propaganda tool is not a true fan and doesn't get it.

Happy?

But it WAS used as a silly propaganda tool. Thats all Captain America comics were back during the war. My grandfather said his whole platoon read Cap comics to get their spirits up and feel good about what there were fighting for.

 

[Kurosawa]

But it WAS used as a silly propaganda tool. Thats all Captain America comics were back during the war. My grandfather said his whole platoon read Cap comics to get their spirits up and feel good about what there were fighting for.

My dad's platoon mostly used booze.

 

[TheVileOne]

But it WAS used as a silly propaganda tool. Thats all Captain America comics were back during the war. My grandfather said his whole platoon read Cap comics to get their spirits up and feel good about what there were fighting for.

There's nothing wrong with that. And that's not really silly.

 

[Kurosawa]

Something that really irks me: Cap is a fantasy/superhero comic, yet the movie adaptation is going to be more of a war movie, meanwhile the Sgt. Rock movie is going to be more a fantasy movie when it is a war comic. It seems like they just are determined to muck with any property they adapt.

 

[Rage]

MAN!! I finally got through the entire 15 pages on this that I missed over the weekend.

First I must state that I am a HUGE fan of John Byrne (who is GREATLY inspired by Jack Kirby) I was happier than a 12 peckered rabbit that the Kirby design was going to be in the movie (as a precursor to a more militaristic version) I was glad to hear that they would honor Kirby... while still making the uniform evolve into a more realistic and sturdy looking uniform.

THEY NEVER USED "SILLY" or "ASHAMED" when describing the costume in the article. The exact quote was 'You're going to be in this USO show' and they give him a flag suit. He can't wait to get out of it.".. HE CAN'T WAIT TO GET OUT OF... is not silly or ashamed.

"he will be wearing a sturdier, more muted version that he makes himself that is more like battle togs." It sounds to me like they are using the same design, just making it out of sturdier materials and more practical. Kinda like putting some neck protection on him and pouches on his belt (which most seem to think is "Classic" 616 Cap's look... and it aint.

The only part that makes any mention of how "silly" the suit is... "his approach, it's the only way we could justify ever seeing him on a screen in tights, with the funny boots and everything."

I have NO PROBLEM with the director calling the pirate boots silly... because they ARE SILLY! It sounds to me like the design team and writers are trying to do thier best to get the ORIGINAL 616 costume in this movie as an homage...and NOT TO PISS ALL OVER JACK'S GRAVE. I don't get that vive AT ALL!!

The part that did bother me was when he talked about "Armor"... that bothered me.

I think we'll see a Cap costume designed like the kirby version and made like the costumes in the flashbacks in Watchmen. I see that as how they would interpret that costume in the 40s (realistically)

When Cap reworks the costume to be more practical after ACTUALLY going into battle with a COSTUME... he comes up with a suit made up of "sturdier" materials like denim and maybe "chainmail" or wool? Something closer to what we are used to seeing today and not a baby blue unitard ;P The muted colors could mean "darker" like the actual colors for Ole Glory and not Baby blue.

Everything that JJ said is up for interpretation, but if WE don't read it with an open mind, then we are more likely to jump to conclusions. There is evidence in that article to lead you to either the Ultimates WWII costume or the one that Epting and Cassidey are currently drawing.

While not a fan of Kurosawa's thinking in absolutes (like a sith)... he has a right to voice an opinion. I just think that his opinion is based on an emotional response to what was written in the article and he started putting words in JJ's mouth and those emotions skewed his perception of what was actually written. IMO

I am stocked from everything that I read about this movie. I wanted Cap to be thought of by the general public as a publicity stunt (and that sounds like it might be the way they are going) and that only soldiers who ACTUALLY saw him in combat knew what he really was... A SUPER SOLDIER and not Howdy doody or Uncle Sam (like the USO are attempting to make him) You also have to remember that the GA in the Marvel movieverse has no idea who Cap really is. They hint at him in TIH... but it seems like nobody really knew about him or they would be less in awe of IM and TIH because they've seen Super Heroes before (IMO)

I love that he hates the idea of the costume (because of it being a tool for propaganda and keeping him out of the war) And I LOVE that he learns that it is a powerful tool for inspiration (and not just propaganda)

I see 90% awesome in that article and only a couple things that peeked my curiousity. (armor being one... BUT COULD CHAINMAIL NOT BE CONSIDERED ARMOR?)

I have faith in Marvel and I think that they will do everything to make this both a comic fantasy and a realistic movie that fits in the Marvel "Movieverse"