First Avenger Captain America's Costume

[afan]

^Interesting I see that as a literal translation.
Course we don't see the boots in that illustration but everyting else is right off the comic pages.
Still don't get what he would carry in those pouches? Nylons? Chocolate? Cigarettes?

 

[Turtles]

and yet you look at crappy costumes from nearly 20 years ago as proof that it cant be done

No, I see them as proof that the costumes have to be done better. Nothing more.

Well, the comics Spidey suit still is a spandex colorful superhero costume, it needed some adaptations. But hey, CA doesn´t wear a cape, or underwear that looks a different color from the bodysuit, etc.

It has difficulties, no question about it, but there´re iconic elements to it as well, such as the flag look, with the star and stripes, that need to be kept. What you need is to make it practical, like a combat suit, like the Batman costume was made into a combat suit, but it still has the cape, the cowl, the ears, the pointy gloves, the utility belt.

He could have.

 

[Art_of_Crime]

The Spider-Man costume is very close. The FF costumes, with all the movie´s problems, were close to recent FF comics suits, like the Ultimate ones.

The Iron Man armor can only be considered accurate if you compare it to the more recent comics, after Adi Granov started to draw him. If you compare it to the older "superhero costume with metallic glow" suits, it´d have been called "blasphemous.

you mean the oddly functional metal spandex?

 

[roach]

It has more practical elements, is less comic booky, and yet still looks like CA. I´m not saying it´s supposed to look exactly like that in the movie, but it points in that direction.

if this is what you want for Cap then we have been friendly firing on each other cause thats what I want too

 

[Art_of_Crime]

^Interesting I see that as a literal translation.
Course we don't see the boots in that illustration but everyting else is right off the comic pages.
Still don't get what he would carry in those pouches? Nylons? Chocolate? Cigarettes?

i wonder that too sometimes, I like the look of them though. Maybe he keeps his wallet and keys in one, his cell phone in another and his ipod in the last one? I'm glad he does not have his canteen though. That just looks to bulky and odd.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

But hey, CA doesn´t wear a cape, or underwear that looks a different color from the bodysuit, etc.

Spoiler

 

[ultimatefan]

if this is what you want for Cap then we have been friendly firing on each other cause thats what I want too

See, sometimes positions on these boards sound a lot more polar than they really are.

 

[Agent 194]

if this is what you want for Cap then we have been friendly firing on each other cause thats what I want too

And that I could live with. Except I'd love the chain mail arnour to look more like the book. More ambiguous and not really that pronounced.

 

[JackIvyGB]

And JackIvyGB? Nice find with the straps. But a harness like that is unlikely to be used as what Steve makes into the abdo stripes in a WW2 based movie; 'modern materials cos its a movie with a superserum' or not.

Oh, I know. That's why I said

Seeing them now, it's pretty clear how they're gonna work the red and white stripes in if these are similar to the straps they meant.

I knew they were modern. I was just making a guess that there may have been similar ones back then or something.

 

[roach]

See, sometimes positions on these boards sound a lot more polar than they really are.

curse my america school system learned reading comprehension

 

[Chris Wallace]

Spoiler

MUST you brign up Cap's fashion missteps?

 

[Kurosawa]

What? Dude, why would that irk you? Cap's whole origin is because of the war. He volunteers for the super SOLDIER serum in the first place because he wanted to serve but was considered not fit because he was too skinny. He was a soldier first before he became the superhero. The real crime would be to separate or downplay Cap's involvement in WWII. Heck, his alter ego back then was pvt. Steve Rodgers and he purposely acted like a Gomer Pyle. He ain't Mr. America, he's Capt. America. There's no problem with a war movie and some of the fantastic worked into it.

Now I completely agree with you about the Sgt. Rock thing.

Golden Age Cap comics were heavily fantasized comics with the war in it. They had no resemblance to the actual war or anything in reality period.

The older Cap comics, during WWII, like the very first original Cap comics were War Comics. I haven't really read them, but I have studied war comics, and seen pics from Cap Comics from then, and they were War comics that depicted the enemy as creepy monsters. Like Nazis with long fingers, claws, and fangs.
So maybe they are paying homage to those comics, plus Cap is sort of more grounded in reality. He doesn't fly, or have spider-powers. He is just a guy pushed to perfection for chemicals. Without the chemicals he is like Batman (in that he is a well trained fighting machine of a human).
So maybe that is why they are grounding it in reality.
I had no idea though they were making a Sgt. Rock movie. I was always under the impression that it was a real "Private Ryan" type realism in there.


Also, another thing to consider when they are making or redesigning the costumes of the comics characters,
What works on paper doesn't work in real life usually.
Cap's pirate boots may look cool and work well in the drawings, but in real life with an real person wearing those it might look silly.
But with the USO costume it does sound like we might get the wings on the mask as well as the pirate boots.

I've read my share of Golden Age Cap comics and stories since then sat in WWII. The most recent series is the closest to realism, although Cap is still in his true costume and is still larger than life.

It seems obvious, doesn't it? Alas it seems not to be.

They are looking to marginalize any connections to Kirby with their movies. They don't want to sell Jack Kirby, they want to sell Marvel because they have that under cost control.

So I am watching Inglorious Basterds today and not really paying attention to the uniforms(and I do realize that movies arent always accurate) but there are instances in the movie where someone is wearing the flared gloves(One of the german soldiers has them on when killing Shoshanna's family) and the so called pirate boots(Lt Raine's has them on when they are freeing Stiglitz..in fact his are flared way more than Cap's)

Inglorious Basterds is much closer to what a Cap movie should be than anything they will make.

It has more practical elements, is less comic booky, and yet still looks like CA. I´m not saying it´s supposed to look exactly like that in the movie, but it points in that direction.

That IS the Kirby costume. I doubt they'll do anything that close. Marvel is, IMO, looking to eliminate Kirby.

 

[Deaths Head II]

That IS the Kirby costume. We won't get anything that close. Marvel is looking to eliminate Kirby.

That must be why they use that costume all the time in the comics.

 

[marcvader]

Dude we're getting straight Kirby.

 

[Kurosawa]

That must be why they use that costume all the time in the comics.

They've marginalized Kirby's designs and style in their comics as much as they can and still maintain a certain amount of continuity. They can't get away from it completely, of course, but they want and need to be far enough away from it so they can defend their properties as solely theirs in court. They've been doing this for years now.

 

[Kurosawa]

Dude we're getting straight Kirby.

I don't think so. It'll be similar to the Ultimate Cap if it's even that close. But I will admit that I overreacted somewhat. That language that Cap "can't wait to get out of it" (referring to the Kirby costume) seriously pissed me off. What was he thinking, seriously?

 

[marcvader]

Well I',m thinking he'll be in Kirby for the USO parts and the AWOL parts. That's pretty much what JJ has inferred. Now the rest I don't know what we're getting hopefully it will be more 616 and less ultimate.

 

[Kurosawa]

Well I',m thinking he'll be in Kirby for the USO parts and the AWOL parts. That's pretty much what JJ has inferred. Now the rest I don't know what we're getting hopefully it will be more 616 and less ultimate.

Yeah, my issue is I do not want the visual image of the Kirby costume being depicted as lame. And that is what it comes off as, at least to me it does.

I generally distrust Hollywood with comics properties, so that shapes my judgments.

 

[marcvader]

Well dude try to stay positive. Marvel studios has done good so far and Im sure they're going to treat Cap and whatever he looks like with taste. He is one of the crown jewels of comics and their not going to make him look like some bafoon on stage. Im sure Steve will be proud to wear the Kirby outfit once he knows its meaning. Any changes will be done out of practicality and not embarassment.

 

[SpiderByte]

Besides, Cap is to Marvel what Superman is to DC. They know something this big can be screwed up, so they'll go the extra mile with Cap.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

That must be why they use that costume all the time in the comics.

 

[roach]

Twenty four hours without...erm...well, without TOTAL war.

my minions are on stand by

 

[roach]

or maybe the wind was taken out of our sails when Nolan was announced as taking over the Superman franchise

 

[SpiderByte]

...
Say WHAT?!

 

[roach]

Nolan is taking over the reboot of Superman