First Avenger Captain America's Costume

[lixdexia]

Eh, if this movie is good, at the end of the day, the missing red stripes on the costume will just be a nitpick and nothing more. If this movie sucks, oh, ****. Everyone's going to be saying, "They should have went with the classic costume in the first place! That was one of the things that made it fail!"

all i'm saying is how are the stripes any more fantastic than the rest of the suit? side by side comparison

it's one tiny change that makes the entire suit look better. and it's not as if it's too late for them to make that change, they haven't started shooting yet.

 

[Compi716]

all i'm saying is how are the stripes any more fantastic than the rest of the suit? side by side comparison

it's one tiny change that makes the entire suit look better. and it's not as if it's too late for them to make that change, they haven't started shooting yet.

As much as I like the movie suit, I'm going to have to agree with you. The additional stripes, particularly the one in the middle, really add to the aesthetics of the costume. That is, unless there really is specific reasoning behind having only those two straps.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Eh, if this movie is good, at the end of the day, the missing red stripes on the costume will just be a nitpick and nothing more.

It's nothing more than a nitpick with me right now. It's just a very noticeable nitpick that happens to be right in the center of his body where it's very difficult for me to ignore it enough to get a good sense of the whole outfit.

all i'm saying is how are the stripes any more fantastic than the rest of the suit? side by side comparison

it's one tiny change that makes the entire suit look better. and it's not as if it's too late for them to make that change, they haven't started shooting yet.

I saw the pic you mentioned before, and I didn't like the contrast between the straps and the classic center stripe. In this image, though, I like it a lot and wouldn't mind if they incorporated it.

At the same time though, I don't feel like it's critical. It'll probably end up as-is and that's fine, I'll get used to it like I said.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Not bad. It could work. But the big red stripe down the middle it's a little too much for me. I think we'll all live without it.

If these battles turn out ot be awesome and cool, I hope no one will be thinking, "Man, there should be more red stripes on the costume." That's like having amazing sex and thinking the girl's t*ts could be better.

 

[Mercurius]

Eh, if this movie is good, at the end of the day, the missing red stripes on the costume will just be a nitpick and nothing more. If this movie sucks, oh, ****. Everyone's going to be saying, "They should have went with the classic costume in the first place! That was one of the things that made it fail!"

You're kiddin'. Even the FF movies were a success!

Of course this will be a moderate success (nothing like Spidey, Iron Man and Dark Knight, though).

But those who understand what the character is about will, at best, think: "modestly decent movie, that has a HUGE mistake about the character throughout".

and the "modestly decent" will be on account of the great cast assembled (if they perform well), a reasonable script (a writer that puts Cap with a gun isn't one who knows much) and good direction.

That's the most likely scenario.

 

[Shivsguy616]

The extra stripes are definately an improvement.

 

[Agent 194]

On the contrary: THIS looks awfully silly.

Undecided whether to make him a soldier or a guy in a costume, and trying to please a war movie fan, they did a monster, not Captain America.

His original costume (in which he is shown many times in flashback sequences, during the war) was made to make him a symbol, something OUT of the war order, like a walking flag.

He WASN'T supposed to look like a jarhead. Here, he is just a stupid soldier with a fancy for colours.

And a gun: that's freaking stupid. He was given a shield to show two things: a) he is not a man of weapons, but fights for a dream; b) to show how incredible are his abilities in the war, fighting precisely WITHOUT a gun.

Pretty stupid, this poster, and for me it is sufficient indication of how poorly they read Cap's myth. It's a shame.

Yes, good post. All points. Especially the sentiment about the gun.

 

[The Sage]

all i'm saying is how are the stripes any more fantastic than the rest of the suit? side by side comparison

it's one tiny change that makes the entire suit look better. and it's not as if it's too late for them to make that change, they haven't started shooting yet.

Wow that makes all the difference. I like that look better.

The gun in his hand is weird. I'm not Captain America expert, but I thought Cap used his heightened abilities and shield while Bucky handled the shooting?

 

[The Count]

i can see Cap getting a chest wound and his blood running down to create the middle stripe

 

[Mercurius]

i can see Cap getting a chest wound and his blood running down to create the middle stripe

One step further and we get a Marvel Zombie Captain America flick.

Maybe we can also get Iggy Pop to play him older. t:

 

[jab1118]

There was a time in which Cap carried a gun and used all kinds of weapons frequently. And I believe that time was WW2. When does this movie take place again?

 

[The Count]

One step further and we get a Marvel Zombie Captain America flick.

Maybe we can also get Iggy Pop to play him older. t:

i don't think Cap would suit see through trousers

 

[Marx]

i can see Cap getting a chest wound and his blood running down to create the middle stripe

As interesting of an idea as that is, blood turns brown when it dries.

 

[The Count]

As interesting of an idea as that is, blood turns brown when it dries.

but if it happens during the final big battle or just prior then that isn't a problem

 

[Mercurius]

i don't think Cap would suit see through trousers

Oh, this is just petty fanboyism: if it is a good movie, nobody will notice his see-through trousers. t:

 

[Whiskey Tango]

There was a time in which Cap carried a gun and used all kinds of weapons frequently. And I believe that time was WW2. When does this movie take place again?

Seriously. I don't particularly want to see him whip out an assault rifle and try to blow away Doctor Doom, but in a wartime situation, on a battlefield, I think he should use whatever weapons are at hand.

What's he gonna do, knock out a bunch of enemy soldiers with the shield and just leave 'em laying there while the other GI's are fighting and dying all around him?

Mileage, vary, etc.

 

[Marx]

but if it happens during the final big battle or just prior then that isn't a problem

That's true.

 

[CrimsonMist]

Uh,....I think you misunderstand my post. (something that's been happening a lot lately I was an English minor in college....I like to think I'm pretty articulate....or clear...I don't think people read anymore) I don't like it either. Have you read what I've been saying? I think the artist's work is good. Ilike the setting and all. But I want the traditional costume. Pirate boots, wings, stripes on the belly...all of it.

No, I understand you fine. I said "This" as "This is fact".

The rest of my post went on explaining why I didn't like the costume in that poster. I also want the traditional costume. Sorry for the mix-up.

 

[Mercurius]

And in the final battle he can, like, bite Bella's neck and, like, with the spilling of her blood, like, draw the middle stripe. He could be, like, a vampyre.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I don't mind the design too much. It has a more Ultimate look to it, which is something I've always liked. It also looks much more period appropriate then the concept did originally.

Honestly, I'm fine with this style, and I prefer it to the classic Cap look. I'm not going to try and "justify" it by slinging around words like "realism" or "gritty," because, let's be honest, he's still running around in red, white, and blue. To be honest, I just like this kind of WWII look over the classic look. I'm not really sure why, but it's been the same ever since I read the Ultimates and first saw the WWII costume. I just really like that look.

I suppose it could be because I've never been a big fan of really bright characters. As a kid I was never a fan of Superman's costume, I always hated to see Batman in the blue and gray (I wanted him in all black or black and gray), and I actually liked the symbiote Spider-man look better then the classic design. But that's just my personal taste. I can understand why some would dislike this look.

But I'd still be willing to bet that in the Avengers movie, we're going to get a much more classic Cap design for modern Cap.

 

[Mercurius]

Seriously. I don't particularly want to see him whip out an assault rifle and try to blow away Doctor Doom, but in a wartime situation, on a battlefield, I think he should use whatever weapons are at hand.

What's he gonna do, knock out a bunch of enemy soldiers with the shield and just leave 'em laying there while the other GI's are fighting and dying all around him?

Mileage, vary, etc.

IF we are to apply these rules from real world to our dear Cap, he isn't going to survive, not the war, but the "realism" craze.

Suspension of disbelief makes we accept a man fighting planes flying in a red and golden armour, another man becoming a giant green Mister Hyde, and even another becoming a superhero in a tight red and blue outfit after being bitten by a, ah-ham, spider.

Not a good argument the "man, this is a WAR, he need to get as many guns as he can", kinda Sylvester Stallone bit.

He is PRECISELY the opposite of those that use guns. That's in the very basis of the character.

 

[The Count]

IF we are to apply these rules from real world to our dear Cap, he isn't going to survive, not the war, but the "realism" craze.

Suspension of disbelief makes we accept a man fighting planes flying in a red and golden armour, another man becoming a giant green Mister Hyde, and even another becoming a superhero in a tight red and blue outfit after being bitten by a, ah-ham, spider.

Not a good argument the "man, this is a WAR, he need to get as many guns as he can", kinda Sylvester Stallone bit.

He is PRECISELY the opposite of those that use guns. That's in the very basis of the character.

if he starts off using guns and then, as the story progresses becomes more confident in his own abilities, he can ditch them in favour of just using the shield

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I don't see a guy who is philosophically opposed to guns running down to his local recruiter and signing up for WW2 in the first place. I also don't see the military letting him out on a battlefield without a firearm.

But whatever, it works for me, it obviously doesn't for you.

Besides, he used guns plenty in the original comics, as has been said many times already. He'd even throw grenades into enemy bunkers and turn their own machine guns against them.

 

[afan]

Seriously. I don't particularly want to see him whip out an assault rifle and try to blow away Doctor Doom, but in a wartime situation, on a battlefield, I think he should use whatever weapons are at hand.

What's he gonna do, knock out a bunch of enemy soldiers with the shield and just leave 'em laying there while the other GI's are fighting and dying all around him?

Mileage, vary, etc.

That's his shield..........you're missing the point......in his hands the shield is as effective as a gun is to a "normal" GI.....more so..... as it is effectively used for offense and defense.

Besides, he used guns plenty in the original comics, as has been said many times already. He'd even throw grenades into enemy bunkers and turn their own machine guns against them.

Can you give specific instances.......my understanding is that he initally was issued a sidearm, but quickly abandoned it when he realized he could do much more with just his shield. The very first published image of Cap is him "punching" Hitler...no sidearm is visible.

 

[The Count]

That's his shield..........you're missing the point......in his hands the shield is as effective as a gun is to a "normal" GI.....more so..... as it is effectively used for offense and defense.

Deadliest Warrior showed how deadly a shield could be when used by a Spartan. Imagine it being used by a super soldier