First Avenger Captain America's Costume

[Mercurius]

For me, the question is whether the suit looks like Captain America. Which I think it does.

It's easy to pick out details that we don't like but overall it does LOOK like Captain America. In the same way that this does:

There may be significant differences but you still know it's Captain America.

Both Spider-Man and Iron Man had differences from the comic depictions...but we knew who they were and, because the movies were good, we didn't mind the differences.

Obviously the ultimate test won't be how accurate everything looks but rather how good the movie is.

Of course, the above is ONE version Captain America: not the most loved, not the best known, not the comic book legend.

The above is the very cliché of a tough sergeant (Lee & Kirby already made humour out of it in the sixties) dressed in something that reminds us of Captain America.

And that's exactly why people like me are dissatisfied: it is close to this poor version that the movie is going.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I for one am glad they avoided the scale mail top. The comics don't get everything right.

 

[Duker Jay]

Of course, the above is ONE version Captain America: not the most loved, not the best known, not the comic book legend.

The above is the very cliché of a tough sergeant (Lee & Kirby already made humour out of it in the sixties) dressed in something that reminds us of Captain America.

And that's exactly why people like me are dissatisfied: it is close to this poor version that the movie is going.

Of course, as with anything subjective, you're never going to please everyone.

While people like you may be dissatisfied, there will be another group who are extremely satisfied.

 

[StylishHokie21]

I'm not a big fan of the costume. The shield looks great, but it's kind of hard to screw that up. The straps and the painted on wings look ridiculous to me.

 

[marcvader]

It sucks to have something so beloved to you made to look different or ridiculous in your eyes. Luckily for me I think it looks good and not stupid and am so looking forward to this depiction of my favorite hero.

 

[captainrogers]

I'm a fan of both the comic and movie suits. The ultimate style and movie version of the suit appealed to me right off the bat, because it looks more like something the Army would issue their super-soldier (the stenciled on wings look cool IMO), while retaining the design aspect of the Simon/Kirby suit. I know some people don't like the apparent added protection the suit looks like it gives, but being the ONLY super soldier they've got, it makes sense for Uncle Sam to send out their boy well- equipped.
I'm amped for this movie. I've made due with the other three Cap films till now, and I am really happy with the direction this film is going in thus far.

 

[Vartha]

I'm the same way CR. I loved the "practical" military styled costume as of late in the comics. It makes complete sense the military would use the best equipment to protect what they've invested in.

 

[Mercurius]

Of course, as with anything subjective, you're never going to please everyone.

While people like you may be dissatisfied, there will be another group who are extremely satisfied.

The first sentence is the Jheezus Christ refrain, that of not being "able to please everyone", like our Lord wasn't - and he was quite a nice chap.

While it's true, it's also used as a convenient excuse for not being able to produce the best result. As in the case of the Blue Jarhead in Pajamas costume.

Satisfaction of groups, be them large or small, is of little or no importance: they're dealing with an icon, and even if they please fans of military crossovers faking Cap in the last years to serve politics, they aren't true to the core of the character, nor to the iconic status of his image.

Movies that respect it are remembered; movies that do not, like this one on Captain America, may enjoy a passing fad, but are easily forgotten.

 

[captainrogers]

Cap...was...created in a sense by Kirby and Simon as a response to what was going on at the time in WW2. The cover was him punching Hitler. Cap has always been military. I am military. Like Cap, I don't always agree with what's going on in my 'job', but the same can be said of anyone in any occupation. It almost sounds like being or having a military background, is a huge negative to the character, or just anyone in general. Cap is not a jar-head. He was a man who became Cap to SERVE HIS COUNTRY and thus became the icon he is via his character and methods to always overcome.
What we know FOR CERTAIN is the suit he wears in the film. None of us (with few exceptions like those who work with/around the film)know for certain the character development that will unfold. Everything sounds like they are sticking to 616 on this. Even IF I thought the suit looked horrid, everything sounds like it's shaping up well. I am optimistic. The glass isn't always half backwash.

 

[peterparker0077]

Cap...was...created in a sense by Kirby and Simon as a response to what was going on at the time in WW2. The cover was him punching Hitler. Cap has always been military. I am military. Like Cap, I don't always agree with what's going on in my 'job', but the same can be said of anyone in any occupation. It almost sounds like being or having a military background, is a huge negative to the character, or just anyone in general. Cap is not a jar-head. He was a man who became Cap to SERVE HIS COUNTRY and thus became the icon he is via his character and methods to always overcome.
What we know FOR CERTAIN is the suit he wears in the film. None of us (with few exceptions like those who work with/around the film)know for certain the character development that will unfold. Everything sounds like they are sticking to 616 on this. Even IF I thought the suit looked horrid, everything sounds like it's shaping up well. I am optimistic. The glass isn't always half backwash.

Exactly. I'd like to know where the idea that military folks are all jarheads came from? Some of our best and most innovative engineers and scientist come out of the millitary.

 

[wobbly]

Uhm....That's quite a leap there. They changed the components of the costume, while it should be noted they have kept most of it's iconic features in place, but that automatically equates to faking Cap to serve politics and not being true to the core of the character?

I would need to see the film before making that judgement call.
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[Whiskey Tango]

It seems not everyone is comfortable being a knee-jerk reactionist.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I don't know Whiskey, I quite enjoy kneeing jerks.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Double post

 

[lixdexia]

Uhm....That's quite a leap there. They changed the components of the costume, while it should be noted they have kept most of it's iconic features in place, but that automatically equates to faking Cap to serve politics and not being true to the core of the character?

I would need to see the film before making that judgement call.
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i see your mistake here, you expected merc's post to make sense. you shouldn't do that

 

[peterparker0077]

btw, I've seen a few folks wondering about the shoulder pieces and straps. Apparently, according to some military friends of mine who know their history really well of military gear, equipment, uniforms, etc.. that the suit is based off a WWII flight and paratrooper suit, and the straps are for paratrooping. Apparently the costume department even went so far to match up the correct twill fabrics and patterns for the Capt's suit that they used back in the 40s for all military uniforms. Although it's not my preference, they're doing they're homework.

I'm really curious to see what his modern suit will be, I highly doubt it will be what we see in this movie. I highly doubt we'll even see a modern costume in the film at all, but it will be saved for Avengers. I hope I'm wrong though.

 

[Rock Sexton]

btw, I've seen a few folks wondering about the shoulder pieces and straps. Apparently, according to some military friends of mine who know their history really well of military gear, equipment, uniforms, etc.. that the suit is based off a WWII flight and paratrooper suit, and the straps are for paratrooping. Apparently the costume department even went so far to match up the correct twill fabrics and patterns for the Capt's suit that they used back in the 40s for all military uniforms. Although it's not my preference, they're doing they're homework.

I'm really curious to see what his modern suit will be, I highly doubt it will be what we see in this movie. I highly doubt we'll even see a modern costume in the film at all, but it will be saved for Avengers. I hope I'm wrong though.

I think it was pretty apparent that it was based on a paratrooper's uniform. That's why I was jokingly calling him Captain Paratrooper. t:

Alas I know based on some spoilers he [BLACKOUT]makes use of that kind of thing[/BLACKOUT], but I don't understand why it absolutely had to be incorporated into the suit. He could've worn a pack if need be for just the occasion.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I don't know if anyone has noticed or mentioned this, but when you look at the hi-res picture, you can even see a criss cross pattern on the shoulders that seems reminiscent of the original scale design. I think thats actually a really nice. I've been studying the zoomed in hi-res photo for ages and I honestly can't fault anything, for my tastes anyway. At a glance, the colours all work nicely, not overusing the bright colours but making the red a nice feature, but when you look at every piece up close, you can see everythings function and all the layers and tiny little pieces that have been strapped in. It's an unbelievably detailed costume.

 

[marcvader]

I don't know if anyone has noticed or mentioned this, but when you look at the hi-res picture, you can even see a criss cross pattern on the shoulders that seems reminiscent of the original scale design. I think thats actually a really nice. I've been studying the zoomed in hi-res photo for ages and I honestly can't fault anything, for my tastes anyway. At a glance, the colours all work nicely, not overusing the bright colours but making the red a nice feature, but when you look at every piece up close, you can see everythings function and all the layers and tiny little pieces that have been strapped in. It's an unbelievably detailed costume.

I appreciate those type of things.

 

[peterparker0077]

apparently the story is that Capt goes to Howard Stark to get the most sophisticated body armor available to date (1940s), and this suit is what he gets, along with the round shield.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I don't know if anyone has noticed or mentioned this, but when you look at the hi-res picture, you can even see a criss cross pattern on the shoulders that seems reminiscent of the original scale design. I think thats actually a really nice. I've been studying the zoomed in hi-res photo for ages and I honestly can't fault anything, for my tastes anyway. At a glance, the colours all work nicely, not overusing the bright colours but making the red a nice feature, but when you look at every piece up close, you can see everythings function and all the layers and tiny little pieces that have been strapped in. It's an unbelievably detailed costume.

You're entitled to your opinion. But I disagree whole-heartedly. The suit is overly busy .... and those shoulder patterns look nothing like the scales, absolutely zero.

 

[peterparker0077]

You're entitled to your opinion. But I disagree whole-heartedly. The suit is overly busy .... and those shoulder patterns look nothing like the scales, absolutely zero.

I don't think there suppose to be scales, but some sort of armor underneath the fabric. Capt's original suit was tiny micro scales under his outfit... alot of people seem to forget that.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Geez Rock, you had to choose the most extreme example for scales didn't you? I didn't mean the 'feathered' look, but rather the flatter diamond shape scales.

Also I didn't say it WAS scales but clearly a design motif inspired and based on the original design.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Geez Rock, you had to choose the most extreme example for scales didn't you? I didn't mean the 'feathered' look, but rather the flatter diamond shape scales.

Also I didn't say it WAS scales but clearly a design motif inspired and based on the original design.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Geez Rock, you had to choose the most extreme example for scales didn't you? I didn't mean the 'feathered' look, but rather the flatter diamond shape scales.

Also I didn't say it WAS scales but clearly a design motif inspired and based on the original design.

I still disagree though. In that pic you posted they obviously look like scales. They attempted to do something similar, but IMO looks nothing close to it.