Captain Marvel General Discussion and Speculation - Part 1

[Suzanne78]

I can almost see reason in the claim that Charlize is too old at 39, when you factor in she'd actually be 43 when filming starts. Almost.

But 34? Get off the crazy pills.

And it'd be hilarious every time Gwen Christie stood next to RDJ. Forget platform shoes, they'd have to get him a horse to sit on to film those scenes.

Which is why I need this to happen.

 

[flickchick85]

Lol, RDJ wouldn't even be in the frame if they filmed scenes next to each other.

 

[Dasher10]

Also agreed. I'm happy if they show that Carol likes a good drink when out socialising with friends, celebrating or after a rough day at work. But, that's about the extent of her drinking that I would like to see.

Other than Mar-Vell, what supporting cast would everyone like to see in Captain Marvel? Would Rick Jones work? Chewie? An iron-free James Rhodes? Kamala? Wasp? Abigail Brand? Jessica Drew? Jessica Jones? Simon Williams?

I think Rhodey could work quite well, although they'll need an excuse for why he doesn't suit up. Or he could suit up, but still be out-classed by Captain Marvel once she develops her powers. I wouldn't mind a female friend for Captain Marvel as well. But, I'm not sure who it should be. Maybe Abigail Brand who initially tried to recruit Carol Danvers to join SWORD, but Carol refused in preference for remaining in the air-force, but they remainder friends?

I'd have this be, "Carol Danvers is latent Inhuman who gets exposed to terrigen mists when Thanos unleashes them across Earth and then gets abducted by the Kree." War Machine would show up in early scenes as her CO but he's also going to be busy handling Thanos. The enemies should absolutely be the Kree as should the supporting cast for the majority of the film. Mahr-Vell should be a freedom fighter seeking to liberate the Kree from the Supreme Intelligence.

It's way too early to introduce Kamala since she's a fan of Carol's but Carol isn't a hero yet and Mahr-Vell is the sidekick. Wasp has already been dead for decades. Abigail Brand might be owned by Fox and SWORD doesn't exist yet. Coulson is still rebuilding SHIELD so SWORD is still going to be a ways away. Sony may own Jessica Drew but I don't see how she'd fit into an alien abduction plot when she'll probably just be part of Agents of SHIELD. Rick Jones would be better introduced in a Phase 4 Hulk sequel. Jessica Jones wouldn't have a reason to interact with Carol yet since Carol would be off in space. Wonder Man is never a character I've liked much and I don't see him debuting on Phase 3. Chewie may appear as a cameo in Carol's apartment.

So that's two characters you named who may appear. As far as other heroes who may be introduced, I wouldn't be opposed to Wraith, Quasar, Photon, Ultra Girl or Marvel Boy showing up since Mahr-Vell probably has a good number of Kree rebels under his command.

I'd also have the Guardians show up after the credits. Carol should be stuck either on Hala, a Kree ship or in Knowhere as an intergalactic hitchhiker asking to get to Earth and finds that the Guardians are heading there to chase Thanos. Carol agrees to join them which sets her up for Infinity War: Part II where she'll become an Avenger.

As far as villains, Yon-Rogg should be the bad guy who kills off Mahr at the halfway point. Shatterax should be a Kree special forces soldier who's hunting Carol. Since the Kree are know for genetic experiments, I wouldn't be surprised if a Ronan clone appears as a way to bring him back. The Supreme Intelligence should be a background villain who's never directly fought.

The sequel would have Kamala appear along with a cameo by Jessica Jones. Moonstone would be the villain.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Im not advocating KS, but at 34, she is not too old. Without knowing how old they plan on making Carol, if they follow the books, she should be early to mid 30s. This movie will film ~2016-2017. A 36-37 year old can easily play the role. Its the women close to 40 that should be out of the running due to age

If it were one movie in 2018, sure. Pretty sure they'll want someone who can play the role for many years. And probably want them to start younger IMO.

OMG!! Gwendoline Christie would be great!!


As for her looking like "a man," well, is it because she's really super tall? It's her makeup as Brienne of Tarth that makes her look a certain way.

When she's not in that....

She's a striking figure.

I'd love it if the went with someone who didn't adhere to conventional "feminine", idealized physical appearances.

I love her in GOT but, are you seriously telling she doesn't look manly in that picture? lmao

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

She's a tall drink of water, and she aint a supermodel... But no, she doesn't look "manly".

 

[Havok83]

Carol needs to be tall but Gwendoline Christie is too tall IMO. She'd be a better fit for She-Hulk. Hell no to Carol

 

[Dark Raven]

How tall is she? She looks over 6 ft.

 

[Doc Ock]

Carol needs to be tall but Gwendoline Christie is too tall IMO. She'd be a better fit for She-Hulk. Hell no to Carol

Dude. She-Hulk. Gwendoline Christie for She-Hulk! It's wonderful.

 

[Havok83]

how tall is she? She looks over 6 ft.

6'3

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I know how Hollywood hates women over a certain age most of the time but I think if Marvel found the perfect actress for the role and she was 35-36, I don't see them turning her down. Maybe I'm being naive but that's what I think.

 

[DrCosmic]

^That sounds like being cynical more than naive.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I know how Hollywood hates women over a certain age most of the time but I think if Marvel found the perfect actress for the role and she was 35-36, I don't see them turning her down. Maybe I'm being naive but that's what I think.

If they saw that the actress was top notch, had some well known accolades and award, brought instant credibility to the proceedings and was game, I am sure they wouldn't have a problem regardless of age. That's more or less what RDJ brought to the table and he was over 40.

 

[harryoscop]

Carol should be in her late twenties or early thirties.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Carol should be in her late twenties or early thirties.

Because... Reasons. Right?

 

[harryoscop]

Because... Reasons. Right?

Not again..
Because I prefer a Carol in her early thirties.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Not again..
Because I prefer a Carol in her early thirties.

Joshing with ya. I think Marvel would be fine casting someone older, but if you want a younger Carol, just cuz, well it's obvious I aint changing your mind.

 

[harryoscop]

Joshing with ya. I think Marvel would be fine casting someone older, but if you want a younger Carol, just cuz, well it's obvious I aint changing your mind.

No hard feelings right?

 

[flickchick85]

I personally think late-30's is the way to go, especially if they keep her rank as a Colonel as in the more recent comics. In the real world, a colonel would almost always be at least 40, but they can fudge it to a certain degree that Carol was an excellent soldier who moved through the ranks quickly. But then again, I was a military kid so I guess I care about age/rank correlation than the general moviegoers will, lol.

 

[Havok83]

If they saw that the actress was top notch, had some well known accolades and award, brought instant credibility to the proceedings and was game, I am sure they wouldn't have a problem regardless of age. That's more or less what RDJ brought to the table and he was over 40.

the character of Tony Starks is older than Carol. He wasn't a teen when he first started in the 60s. He was like late 20s. With the original X-men being early to mid 30s, Tony is easily mid 40s. RDJ's casting was spot on for the character

I personally think late-30's is the way to go, especially if they keep her rank as a Colonel as in the more recent comics. In the real world, a colonel would almost always be at least 40, but they can fudge it to a certain degree that Carol was an excellent soldier who moved through the ranks quickly. But then again, I was a military kid so I guess I care about age/rank correlation than the general moviegoers will, lol.

that's exactly what happened in the books. Her rise in ranks wasn't normal and it was established that she excelled in the ranks bc of her impressive skills as a pilot. For them to have her as a Colonel in her early 30s, wouldn't be a stretch as it would be staying true to the books which gave that position to her in her 20s before her first appearance

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

the character of Tony Starks is older than Carol. He wasn't a teen when he first started in the 60s. He was like late 20s. With the original X-men being early to mid 30s, Tony is easily mid 40s. RDJ's casting was spot on for the character

I fail to see what your point is because... If the actress to play Carol were to be cast now and be late 30's closing in on 40... She'd still be younger than RDJ's Stark currently is. Not to mention I wonder where these exact ages people are throwing around are coming from? As a someone that was a life long reader of comics until about 2008-2009, I don't ever remember these specific details being in the books, except for a handful of character, like say, Peter Parker whom we know was in high school when he becomes Spider-Man. Stark was in his twenties in the original stories? We know this how? These things have been fluid in comics for years. How old is the Human Torch in FF these days? He should be a contemporary of the X-Men yet he certainly is more often than not portrayed as someone easily thought of as a well under 30 year old young adult.

Once again, Carol would be a veteran Air Force Officer and Intelligence agent. She's a Major in the USAF, and per her resume, someone with a well respected job history. That's not someone that's in their mid twenties profile in the least. More importantly, if the actress chosen looks the part, is more than physically fit, can bring instant legitimacy to the role, what's the problem if she's late 30's closing in on 40 exactly? No one is saying Roseanne Barr should be playing Carol. The bone of contention is that somehow being 39 disqualifies a very beautiful, Oscar winning actress that is still in great shape and can play authoritative characters in her sleep for some reason and that said reason doesn't apply to the casting of Renner, RDJ or Ruffalo.

 

[Havok83]

I fail to see what your point is because... If the actress to play Carol were to be cast now and be late 30's closing in on 40... She'd still be younger than RDJ's Stark currently is.

The point is pretty clear. RDJ at ~40 was cast to play a character in his 40s. We have no idea how old they will have Carol as this is pure speculative but if they are going based on the comics, picking someone to play her in her 30s, would be best with an actress that isn't over 40

Not to mention I wonder where these exact ages people are throwing around are coming from?

The only exact ages thrown around are that of the actors and a quick google search can help you on that

As a someone that was a life long reader of comics until about 2008-2009, I don't ever remember these specific details being in the books, except for a handful of character, like say, Peter Parker whom we know was in high school when he becomes Spider-Man. Stark was in his twenties in the original stories? We know this how? These things have been fluid in comics for years. How old is the Human Torch in FF these days? He should be a contemporary of the X-Men yet he certainly is more often than not portrayed as someone easily thought of as a well under 30 year old young adult.

Reading the books? Iron Man most definitely was not a teenager in his original book. Johnny is easily at least 30. He's often portrayed similarly to Iceman who despite, both of whom are the youngest of their original group and exhibit a sense of humor and immaturity. PLENTY of 30 somethings act like they haven't grown up. That's simply a character trait that many people never quite shake off

Once again, Carol would be a veteran Air Force Officer and Intelligence agent. She's a Major in the USAF, and per her resume, someone with a well respected job history. That's not someone that's in their mid twenties profile in the least. More importantly, if the actress chosen looks the part, is more than physically fit, can bring instant legitimacy to the role, what's the problem if she's late 30's closing in on 40 exactly? No one is saying Roseanne Barr should be playing Carol. The bone of contention is that somehow being 39 disqualifies a very beautiful, Oscar winning actress that is still in great shape and can play authoritative characters in her sleep for some reason and that said reason doesn't apply to the casting of Renner, RDJ or Ruffalo.

that's not a normal person's history but its established in the books that her career path wasn't normal. It was impressive bc she of her sex and age. It would be less impressive if it happened naturally as it does with most men.

 

[cherokeesam]

Hollywood actors and actresses have a long history of playing characters who are about 10-15 years younger than themselves (see: any "teen" movie or TV show). So a 39-year old actress playing a 24-29 year old character is par for the course. Problem?

 

[Suzanne78]

I personally think late-30's is the way to go, especially if they keep her rank as a Colonel as in the more recent comics. In the real world, a colonel would almost always be at least 40, but they can fudge it to a certain degree that Carol was an excellent soldier who moved through the ranks quickly. But then again, I was a military kid so I guess I care about age/rank correlation than the general moviegoers will, lol.

Agree with you on all counts. I wish Brie Larson was older, because she's a phenomenal young actress who carries a real maturity to her. I think if she were older, she'd have been a perfect Carol.

Blunt carries the same mature gravitas about her, with the ability to go comedic as well. Ditto Chastain, though I love her for Medusa too.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Agree with you on all counts. I wish Brie Larson was older, because she's a phenomenal young actress who carries a real maturity to her. I think if she were older, she'd have been a perfect Carol.

Blunt carries the same mature gravitas about her, with the ability to go comedic as well. Ditto Chastain, though I love her for Medusa too.

Eventhough Larson is too young I would be super excited if she were cast. I'd get pass the age thing in a second.

 

[Lilbaz]

Hollywood actors and actresses have a long history of playing characters who are about 10-15 years younger than themselves (see: any "teen" movie or TV show). So a 39-year old actress playing a 24-29 year old character is par for the course. Problem?

The problem is that in 10 years she will be a 50 year old. Not saying it can't be done but why would they if they don't have to?

She's also going to be a new Superhero being led by Cap, who she'll look to for experience and guidance. It might be a bit strange when he is almost 10 years younger than her.