Chapter 35- “The Second Coming” – Discussion Thread 9/22/08

[Savage]

Remember peters and nathans mom can see the future... the mom obviously knew the reason behind save the cheerleader save the world.. it really wasnt to save clairs life, it was to save her brain... if sylar had gotten hold of her brain and power in the begining the show would be over.

clair is key element of the show... i always new she had something more.

And now he FINALLY has it so he's just walking around being unstoppable for the hell of it. Guess they're going to use him as a plot device now.

 

[b. goose]

Clair : My biological father has been shot? I can help him with my blood!

Peter: No, you're all the way over there in Cali. He needs a hospital.

Me: (tapping Pete on shoulder) Just teleport to Cali, grab your niece and bring her back to NY to heal that mofo.

Pete: Nah that would make too much sense. I'm thinking resurrection via Linderman ghost.

Me: ...'kay.

peter cut her off before she was able to say that her blood can heal. all i remember seeing was her saying...."but my blood can...." then peter cuts her off with the hospital thing.

 

[mathhater]

One lingering point with me is the cure for powers. Suresh seemed unable to help Maya in this regard, but they had a cure in season 2...they almost used it on Monica. So why can't Maya get the cure now?

 

[stillanerd]

One lingering point with me is the cure for powers. Suresh seemed unable to help Maya in this regard, but they had a cure in season 2...they almost used it on Monica. So why can't Maya get the cure now?

Because, if you remember, the "cure" was actually the Shanti virus which not only removed a persons powers but would eventually kill them over time. I doubt MohinDUH!, as I like to call him, would want to "cure" Maya that way. Plus, I think they don't have any of that "cure" left.

 

[Gallagher]

Peter being in that other guy's body has really got me confused, what the hell kind of power is that?

Conciousness Transplanting?

 

[mathhater]

Because, if you remember, the "cure" was actually the Shanti virus which not only removed a persons powers but would eventually kill them over time. I doubt MohinDUH!, as I like to call him, would want to "cure" Maya that way. Plus, I think they don't have any of that "cure" left.

Thanks...that's one question answered at least.

 

[RockSP]

Peter being in that other guy's body has really got me confused, what the hell kind of power is that?

Conciousness Transplanting?

It seems kinda silly to put yourself in the body of a criminal who might get killed on sight by HRG or somebody...

 

[3 Dev Adam]

Wild guesses.

Petrelli got cured cause he had Adam's blood. Linderman is Future Peter in disguise mode. And I suspect that SuperAndo is also Future Peter.

 

[Koz]

So, if Angela didn't order the hit on Nathan...who did she call?

I'd say it's a plot hole, at this point, unless the writers decide to explain it some other way. That scene of Angela talking on the phone was originally from the "OMG the virus got out" storyline. In the original context, Angela was talking to someone about the virus getting out and how Odessa couldn't be saved.

Okay: plot hole.
If she can't be killed then what the hell was the whole point of: "Save the cheerleader.Save the world"!?

I'm not happy about Sylar getting Claire's power, but the reason FutureHiro didn't want Sylar to get Claire's power in season 1 was because Sylar was originally the source of the explosion. Hiro stabbed Sylar, and Sylar regenerated and exploded anyway. FutureHiro thought saving Claire would allow him to kill Sylar and prevent the explosion. This was covered in one of the graphic novels. Obviously, things were changed, and Peter became the source of the explosion.

 

[Krozee]

Anyone notice Jimmy Jean-Louis aka The Haitian is listed as a guest star for this ep, but as far as I could tell he didn't appear at all.

 

[Gilpesh]

Anyone notice Jimmy Jean-Louis aka The Haitian is listed as a guest star for this ep, but as far as I could tell he didn't appear at all.

Yeah he did. He was talking with Matt in Africa... [/racism]

 

[Trainwreck2100]

Clair : My biological father has been shot? I can help him with my blood!

Peter: No, you're all the way over there in Cali. He needs a hospital.

Me: (tapping Pete on shoulder) Just teleport to Cali, grab your niece and bring her back to NY to heal that mofo.

Pete: Nah that would make too much sense. I'm thinking resurrection via Linderman ghost.

Me: ...'kay.

Future peter wanted Nathan dead so why would he help him?

 

[Krozee]

Yeah he did. He was talking with Matt in Africa... [/racism]

No that was just some African bushman guy who paints the future.

 

[Krozee]

Future peter wanted Nathan dead so why would he help him?

He never actually "helped" him, he just rode in the ambulance with him and waited outside his room.

 

[Gilpesh]

No that was just some African bushman guy who paints the future.

You missed the joke

 

[Krozee]

You missed the joke

Ohhh lol. It's hard to read sarcasm in text haha.

 

[Gilpesh]

Ohhh lol. It's hard to read sarcasm in text haha.

That's why there was a [/racism] tag.

 

[Golgo-13]

How did future Peter put present peter in that guys body?

 

[Gilpesh]

How did future Peter put present peter in that guys body?

I am going with, not answered yet. Because it might have something to do with that guy's power... maybe it isn't sound manipulation like the screen said, maybe that's just an application of it.

But, let's just hope it doesn't suck when it is explained.

 

[stillanerd]

How did future Peter put present peter in that guys body?

Well it's obviously a power that he acquired from as yet unknown person, and I guess it involves the ability to physically possess another person. However, it also looks like Future Peter is also able to temporarily transfer his own abilities onto another person, which he probably did to Peter in order to get him into that Jesse guy. Remember he used Hiro's power to teleport Matt to Africa without actually going there himself.

 

[Krozee]

That's why there was a [/racism] tag.

I didn't have the slightest clue of what that was lol. Myyy baddd.

 

[uchiha_itachi]

hmmm on the whole clair is immortal thing and the saving the cheerleader save the world, i reckon sylar removed the brain in that timeline thus making her "die" but if her brain was put back she would heal. we know that if the brain is obstructed or somthing then the healing power doesn't work. or i duno somthing to that effect

 

[Savage]

Well it's obviously a power that he acquired from as yet unknown person, and I guess it involves the ability to physically possess another person. However, it also looks like Future Peter is also able to temporarily transfer his own abilities onto another person, which he probably did to Peter in order to get him into that Jesse guy. Remember he used Hiro's power to teleport Matt to Africa without actually going there himself.

Or he just has so much control over his powers that he can transfer other people's minds instead of his own and send other people through time and space without sending himself. Saves a trip. That's for sure. I'm sure he's sent plenty of people back to the jurassic period for the hell of it.

 

[Tyrinus]

Well it's obviously a power that he acquired from as yet unknown person, and I guess it involves the ability to physically possess another person. However, it also looks like Future Peter is also able to temporarily transfer his own abilities onto another person, which he probably did to Peter in order to get him into that Jesse guy. Remember he used Hiro's power to teleport Matt to Africa without actually going there himself.

Now here's a question, can Present Peter absorb powers from Future Peter?

 

[marukisu]

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