The Book of Boba Fett Chapter 6: From the Desert Comes a Stranger (Spoiler Discussion)

[Astro13Zombie]

The Cad Bane makeup has grown on me a lot. He isn’t perfect but he does look great.

 

[Marvolo]

Among the people complaining about Boba being emasculated crowd, yes.

I've seen nothing but love for the meme, but its being run into the ground so I expect people are going to grow tired of it.

 

[misjuevos]

I think Cad's skin looked bright in the sun, but will look better at night or indoors. Or maybe that is just his age showing, I don't know how Duros age.
As far as walking I am sure he used his rocket boots off camera to his transport.

 

[Weather Witch]

As far as walking I am sure he used his rocket boots off camera to his transport.

They were definitely holding off on the rocket boots on purpose. Favreau and Filoni are usually pretty good at holding back on things like this so that we can have other cool moments later.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[CaptainWagner]

For the love of the Force...

But don't you understand? Boba can't make jokes. He can only do murder. AND HE ENJOYS IT!

 

[Karelia]

I will say, this is definitely not the direction I would have went for a Boba Fett show. And it's definitely not how I pictured this series would have went after watching Boba Fett's appearance in The Mandalorian series. It's a head scratcher. He should have been Mando x10 and more villainous. But we will see how this last episode wraps up.

That said, there's only been one or two episodes I wasn't crazy about. The last two have been my favorite Star Wars material in a long long time. Probably since Disney took over.

Episode 2 was definitely my favorite Boba-centric episode.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I have a feeling Grogu will end up with both the armour and the lightsaber. I think Luke was maybe testing him in a different way than we think and it will become evident later on.

 

[henzINNIT]

I 100% agree with this. It’s always cool to see Luke in his prime. But Hamill’s voice seemed off in this. We know he’s a great voice actor. But something here just felt off. It felt so robotic and stiff at times. I don’t need him to be the whiny Luke from OT but it didn’t feel lived in.

As mentioned, the voice is literally robotic. And beyond testing the tech, I don't get it. Seems like everyone accepts Darth Vader's voice sounding different in newer stuff because James Earl Jones is much older, but no-one cares because it's always great to have him back. Mark Hamill would be exactly the same case with fans, except Vader's voice is processed and easier to fake, and Hamill can probably adjust his own voice better than most.

 

[Another_Fool]

I'm starting to come to terms with Boba not being that present in the last 2 episodes. I vaguely recalled that Favreau or an article stated this would essentially be Mandalorian Season 2.5. So sure enough when I looked it up, it's in a lot of articles from last year right after the Mando S2 finale, even saying we'll see characters returning from the Mandalorian series. Seems like they really tried to get the word out there as early as possible to temper the expectations, and obviously didn't say as much closer to the release date to preserve the surprises for people who weren't in the know.

Still think they could've integrated Fett better in the last episodes. Was listening to Kristian Harloff and he made a great point that Boba could've went with Mando to plead for Cobb Vanth's help. I think had Boba been inserted there, it feels a whole lot better. It's not like he hasn't stepped away from the palace to recruit before.

 

[Drizzle]

My only complaint is why are getting all of this in a show called Boba Fett?

They're taking an MCU approach with the Star Wars shows, apparently. Kind of like how Captain America: Civil War also functioned as Avengers 2.5 and also an Iron Man sequel of sorts too.

BTW, it's funny how the threads for episodes 5 and 6 are two-three times as long as the threads for episodes 1-4 on these boards.

 

[BrollySupersj]

I honestly never liked the whole idea of Jedi not having attachments etc. I mean Luke went against that in ROTJ by attempting to save Darth Vader, not wanting to leave him. Same with going to save Han and Leia on Cloud City. I mean I never liked that type of lore of forbidden love with warriors. Call me a hopeless romantic but I view love and attachments as a motivator of duty, a motivation to battle evil. It's a reason to protect things.

One more thing I wanted to add to this. Its quite clear Grogu cares about Din Djarin, but like...Jedi can have friends can't they? Obi Wan and Anakin were buddies for a long time. I don't recall being an issue during the Clone Wars era. Hell Obi Wan says Anakin was "a good friend" in A New Hope.

Grogu can't be friends with Jarin anymore?

 

[misjuevos]

I think the Jedi are supposed to be enlightened beings above worldly things. This is what allows them to do amazing things with the light side of the force. Maybe that is what differentiates a strong Jedi from a regular one. Yoda is the pinnacle no attachments and super strong with the force. I mean his lifespan is so long that if he was emotionally attached to all the beings he trained over the years that have died to old age or during service he would probably have fallen to the dark side. So this is why I think he must have no attachments. He can be friendly but he doesn't care if someone dies because he just thinks it's the will of the force.
So I don't mind if there are attachments to Jedi, but the Jedi should be weaker for it. You shouldn't have both. It's the ultimate choice. I mean a weaker Jedi is still a Jedi, just not Yoda level power. I think the other Jedi did have some form of attachments which is why none of them had the power over the force that Yoda did.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I have a feeling Grogu will end up with both the armour and the lightsaber. I think Luke was maybe testing him in a different way than we think and it will become evident later on.

He'll choose the armor, Luke will give him the lightsaber as a parting gift, and he will be back with the Mando for season 3, making Boba "essential viewing" for Mando fans.

 

[Drizzle]

One more thing I wanted to add to this. Its quite clear Grogu cares about Din Djarin, but like...Jedi can have friends can't they? Obi Wan and Anakin were buddies for a long time. I don't recall being an issue during the Clone Wars era. Hell Obi Wan says Anakin was "a good friend" in A New Hope.

Grogu can't be friends with Jarin anymore?

I think the Jedi are supposed to be enlightened beings above worldly things. This is what allows them to do amazing things with the light side of the force. Maybe that is what differentiates a strong Jedi from a regular one. Yoda is the pinnacle no attachments and super strong with the force. I mean his lifespan is so long that if he was emotionally attached to all the beings he trained over the years that have died to old age or during service he would probably have fallen to the dark side. So this is why I think he must have no attachments. He can be friendly but he doesn't care if someone dies because he just thinks it's the will of the force.
So I don't mind if there are attachments to Jedi, but the Jedi should be weaker for it. You shouldn't have both. It's the ultimate choice. I mean a weaker Jedi is still a Jedi, just not Yoda level power. I think the other Jedi did have some form of attachments which is why none of them had the power over the force that Yoda did.

Treating Din as Grogu's "father" in this case more than a friend, going by the Jedi code, they treated parents and romantic relationships differently than friends, at least going by the prequel era rules. After all, most of the Jedi we've seen across the films and shows were friends with each other, or at least they seemed to be. Just using Obi-Wan as an example, he had plenty of friends even outside the order including Padme, Bail Organa, Jar Jar, Duchess Satine, and let's not forget Dex the diner owner.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I think the Jedi are supposed to be enlightened beings above worldly things. This is what allows them to do amazing things with the light side of the force. Maybe that is what differentiates a strong Jedi from a regular one. Yoda is the pinnacle no attachments and super strong with the force. I mean his lifespan is so long that if he was emotionally attached to all the beings he trained over the years that have died to old age or during service he would probably have fallen to the dark side. So this is why I think he must have no attachments. He can be friendly but he doesn't care if someone dies because he just thinks it's the will of the force.
So I don't mind if there are attachments to Jedi, but the Jedi should be weaker for it. You shouldn't have both. It's the ultimate choice. I mean a weaker Jedi is still a Jedi, just not Yoda level power. I think the other Jedi did have some form of attachments which is why none of them had the power over the force that Yoda did.

Have you watched TCW? Yoda has plenty of emotional attachments. We literally see them, in his head. During Order 66, he reacts on an emotional level to the death of his fellow Jedi. The idea of no emotional attachment is a lie. They can't pull it off. A Jedi would have to lack empathy to pull it off. Yoda, Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, Ahsoka, Luke, Rey, Kanan, Ezra, and every major Jedi we have known, has emotional attachments. You know who doesn't?

When Satine died, Obi-Wan didn't fall to the dark side, not because he wasn't emotionally attached to her. He loved her. It's why he always came calling in her time of need. He doesn't fall because he doesn't give into his hate. The Jedi are in a constant battle against the dark side, even inside themselves. That's what makes them Jedi.

 

[DKDetective]

As mentioned, the voice is literally robotic. And beyond testing the tech, I don't get it. Seems like everyone accepts Darth Vader's voice sounding different in newer stuff because James Earl Jones is much older, but no-one cares because it's always great to have him back. Mark Hamill would be exactly the same case with fans, except Vader's voice is processed and easier to fake, and Hamill can probably adjust his own voice better than most.

Once upon a time that was true, but I don't think that's the case anymore. You can hear it in a lot of Mark's recent voice acting gigs. I actually think all of those vocal acrobatics he did during the heyday of his voice acting career has probably limited his vocal range now. It's just so taxing. It's like how you see with a lot of singers with the widest ranges actually seem to lose the most as they age. See for instance Robert Plant from Led Zeppelin. Guy could hit crazy high notes as a young fella and they had to basically downtune and change the key for all of their songs at their reunion in 2006 because Robert couldn't hit the same notes anymore.

 

[Weather Witch]

One more thing I wanted to add to this. Its quite clear Grogu cares about Din Djarin, but like...Jedi can have friends can't they? Obi Wan and Anakin were buddies for a long time. I don't recall being an issue during the Clone Wars era. Hell Obi Wan says Anakin was "a good friend" in A New Hope.

Grogu can't be friends with Jarin anymore?

Isn't it more about not making the same mistake as with Anakin? Not taking Grogu away from the person they have such attachment to for the sake of his training and all that. Lucas and Filoni always credited that as the main reason Anakin fell to the dark side. That's also what Ahsoka said in Mando S2. It's not like Luke would say "you can never see Mando", but he wants to see what Grogu himself really wants right now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

What we are seeing from Luke and Ahsoka right now, is how Kylo is able to rise to power. Jedi, never learning their lessons.

 

[Sithborg]

Have you watched TCW? Yoda has plenty of emotional attachments. We literally see them, in his head. During Order 66, he reacts on an emotional level to the death of his fellow Jedi. The idea of no emotional attachment is a lie. They can't pull it off. A Jedi would have to lack empathy to pull it off. Yoda, Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, Ahsoka, Luke, Rey, Kanan, Ezra, and every major Jedi we have known, has emotional attachments. You know who doesn't?

When Satine died, Obi-Wan didn't fall to the dark side, not because he wasn't emotionally attached to her. He loved her. It's why he always came calling in her time of need. He doesn't fall because he doesn't give into his hate. The Jedi are in a constant battle against the dark side, even inside themselves. That's what makes them Jedi.

Hate and fear. The fear is the important component of Anakin's fall. While everything that happened that made him disillusioned with the Jedi fed into his anger, it was his fear of Padme that led to him chopping up younglings.

Which may be the point of the separation when his students are getting trained. I do want to see Luke try to have that conversation with Hera and Jacen. I hope the Shadow of the Sith book explores Luke's goals for the Jedi more.

 

[Sithborg]

Once upon a time that was true, but I don't think that's the case anymore. You can hear it in a lot of Mark's recent voice acting gigs. I actually think all of those vocal acrobatics he did during the heyday of his voice acting career has probably limited his vocal range now. It's just so taxing. It's like how you see with a lot of singers with the widest ranges actually seem to lose the most as they age. See for instance Robert Plant from Led Zeppelin. Guy could hit crazy high notes as a young fella and they had to basically downtune and change the key for all of their songs at their reunion in 2006 because Robert couldn't hit the same notes anymore.

Ehhh, he still seems to have his perfect Joker voice in He-man.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Ehhh, he still seems to have his perfect Joker voice in He-man.

Mark sounds like the Joker more often then not these days.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Hate and fear. The fear is the important component of Anakin's fall. While everything that happened that made him disillusioned with the Jedi fed into his anger, it was his fear of Padme that led to him chopping up younglings.

Which may be the point of the separation when his students are getting trained. I do want to see Luke try to have that conversation with Hera and Jacen. I hope the Shadow of the Sith book explores Luke's goals for the Jedi more.

Good point. The Jedi are so interesting to me, because they have the classic superhero conundrum of, "great power, great responsibility". They are faced with the decision of when and when not to intervene. What is natural order, what isn't. Anakin is kind of left on an island being told he has all this power. That he's special, with a special destiny. While at the same time, they also tell him he must learn the natural order of the world. Death will happen, even to our loved ones. We must accept it. But they do it, in the most Jedi way possible, which is why things go bad. Sure, the Emperor's influence matters. Anakin's love for his mother and Padme matter. But it's the Jedi's lack of willingness to engage with these things, that doom Anakin. Obi-Wan knew about Padme and Anakin. They were going around with each other's droids, he knew they had contact, etc. He knew why Rex was in front of that door. And yet, he never talked to him about it.

 

[DKDetective]

Ehhh, he still seems to have his perfect Joker voice in He-man.

Mark sounds like the Joker more often then not these days.

He may still be able to do A Joker voice, but the current one from the Arkham games and He-Man is actually quite different from his work during the heyday of BTAS:


The voice is clearly far more gravelly and aged now, which is fine and a normal part of aging, but we shouldn't kid ourselves that Mark sounds the same that he did 30 years ago. It's the same reason why he can't do a young Luke voice now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He may still be able to do A Joker voice, but the current one from the Arkham games and He-Man is actually quite different from his work during the heyday of BTAS:


The is clearly far more gravelly and aged now, which is fine and a normal part of aging, but we shouldn't kid ourselves that Mark sounds the same that he did 30 years ago. It's the same reason why he can't do a young Luke voice now.

True. I just think most of his roles these days, he sounds more like the Joker then anything else.