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Knights of Ren
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If you have a story group helping to write a script, that is something cobbled together. That is too many different POVs, too many cooks, for one script. That is how things like the Mummy happen.
Again, I like Rogue One. But this is why it has odd tonal shifts and scenes that feel dropped in. Why it lacks the character work and cohesion of TFA.
It could. But I think there may be more to it. I mean with most TV shows, even during this golden age, a series has many writers, tons of collaboration back and forth re-writes and most series feel like one giant story that dont feel patched together and have a solid feel throughout 80 episodes. I think the danger can come more from examples like with Rogue One when you have one writer, eject them, get another, and another, and another. When the old writer is thrown out of the process I could see there being more of a disconnect. Because then you have a new writer who does not understand where the other was coming from.
Just in relation to my life, Ive written a lot of speeches with certain intentions I wanted to make sure were related to the audience. Im not the greatest writer but more of the idea guy. Ive had it where staff took my idea never asked me about it and wrote something that was not what I intended and a Frankenstein of messaging. However, when other staff members work with me and collaborate in an open back and forth of how to fix it and what each person is trying to say, I always find it to be where a better unified message goes through with a solid voice.
With the story group I think and hope it may be more of ideas and working in more of an open setting. I too hope its not like the last film where they just keep going through writers and discarding them after their version was done. I mean the entire original trilogy even TFA was written with various writers, ghost writers etc. It does not automatically spell doom and gloom. Open collaboration can work and create a solid voice. I just feel the alternative of just hiring new writers all the time, may be more of the risky thing to do. It can work, but weve also seen it fail as in our last SW film.
Now I know around here there is not as many folks that think so, but most critics and myself do think that Connolly and Colin have created a great film already. I loved Safety Not Guaranteed and judging from the reviews I was not alone. I was not thrilled with JW, but I still see his talent, and I hope that it can come back out in full and then some. There is no denying the man better up his game with this. I still love Safety and it seems Connolly is writing for Disney in another capacity for an untitled Pixar film. I guess I dont see a void of creativity with them. So I think the talent is there and Disney sees something. In my eyes and it seems many critics in the past they saw it to, so hopefully LFL can get that out of them once again. If not, it could spell trouble.
Ive seen directors go on dry spells same with writers. I am sure there are many more examples then the few off the top of my head. I mean I hope Duncan Jones rebounds as well, his last film was terrible, the one before, good but not great. I mean heck, Kershner really has nothing impressive on his resume outside of Empire Strikes Back. Never Say Never is meh, and never has been one of my favorite Bonds.
I just truly dont think that Kathy and the others have not thought about this, Im sure most of them are much more intelligent than myself and have really thought this through and learned from Rogue One, I would hope. Rogue Ones issues to me was not so much tonal shifts, it was more of the clunkiness of Jyns arc. Which you could tell they wanted as the center, but really straddled on many things. Honestly, a lot of that was felt in the re-shoots where they were having to Frankenstein it. However, Rogue One still ended up way better than I thought it would.
In addition, a lot of the Rogue One ordeal seemed to be in pure panic mode of them fixing it. It seems these guys have had over 2 years to write on IX, and we have not heard of any changes of writers, or drama. Does not mean there is not any but still. I mean with TFA there was the drama with Arndt, there was the many dramas of RO from Knoll, to Whitta, to Weinz, to a ghost write from McQuarrie, and Tonys re-write.. So far nothing with the other films. Therefore, I hope that is a good sign that they are not scrambling to get other writers because Kathy and company are happy with what theyve been working on for years, and have not jumped to completely new writers a few times like they did with Rogue.
With the film I figure they will make sure, the script is not that prior to cameras rolling so they do not have that last minute we need to fix a big chunk of the film.
However, Im looking at one side of it, yeah there is the dark side too, and it could end up not doing well. Im not just blindly saying this will be the case. I know it is never that black and white. The film could be a disaster, or just mediocre. I hope not, and I see some of the silver lining, and hope that it becomes a reality. If it doesn't, well that sucks and that's that.