Community - Part 2

[Call Me Darkman]

says that people don't watch this for the story.

That's 100% true. Everyone's favorite episodes are the spoofs. That's all the evidence he needs.

 

[DACrowe]

But he thinks they watch it for him to do pratfalls and physical comedy. The spoofs only work because they're plot-driven episodes and not just endless gags. At least the better ones.

 

[LostSon88]

That's 100% true. Everyone's favorite episodes are the spoofs. That's all the evidence he needs.

Spoofs that are driven by story. Storytelling shouldn't be completely thrown out the window for the sake of cheap laughs.

Frankly, it irritates me so much when people rag on more basic and 'straight forward' episodes and call them "weak" simply on the grounds that its not an homage or parody of something.

Not every episode has to be a Paintball, LOTR, Pulp Fiction, Zombie, Western, etc. throwback for Community to be great comedy.

 

[The Squirrel]

I watch because I enjoy the characters and the stories. The comedy is a plus.

 

[LostSon88]

You and me both.

Others however, are simply in it for the parodies it seems...

 

[Call Me Darkman]

Spoofs that are driven by story.

There's a story, yes, but it isn't the driving force. Community, as great as it is, is relying less and less on storylines and more on the spoofs. For example, we all love Evil Abed, but ultimately, what does that have to do with anything? It's making the show more outlandish than it needs to be. It's taking away from the character's college experience. And instead of focusing on the study group and giving them more development, it's turning the characters into caricatures.

I hate to agree with Chevy Chase, but the show has gotten off-track in season 3. Dan Harmon should look at Tiny Fey and 30 Rock for some guidance. While that show also has its silly episodes, like the Leap Day William one, it still tries to remain as grounded as possible. Community, on the other hand, is off-the-ground and in outer space.

Remember when the Simpsons started getting ridiculous or when Family Guy started relying on cutaways and random pop culture humor? That's when they started to suck. Community is in danger of heading in that direction. If every season Dan Harmon decides to raise the stakes and get more over-the-top than eventually he's gonna cross the line and lose what made the show appealing in the first place.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Abed feeling betrayed by his best friend and imagining teaming up with an evil version of himself immediately afterward and right before starting a war against said best friend isn't character development?

 

[Man in the Suit]

Dan Harmon should look at Tiny Fey and 30 Rock for some guidance.

Nope.

 

[ironmaidenrules]

Let's all pretend that abed is a sane person

Cough.Christmas episode cough
Evil abed is only real in the sense that he represents where's dark desires and tendencies.

 

[Pink Ranger]

 

[LostSon88]

Um....okay?

 

[O'Haire]

 

[Shifty]

The latest recording is from season two so Chevy could've left if he wanted to, the way season two ended they created the opportunity to write him out. I can see how he was frustrated that his material was cut out. Wonder if anyone told him Harmon sits next to the editor and determines what stays and what doesn't.

 

[The Batman]

There's a story, yes, but it isn't the driving force. Community, as great as it is, is relying less and less on storylines and more on the spoofs. For example, we all love Evil Abed, but ultimately, what does that have to do with anything? It's making the show more outlandish than it needs to be. It's taking away from the character's college experience. And instead of focusing on the study group and giving them more development, it's turning the characters into caricatures.

I hate to agree with Chevy Chase, but the show has gotten off-track in season 3. Dan Harmon should look at Tiny Fey and 30 Rock for some guidance. While that show also has its silly episodes, like the Leap Day William one, it still tries to remain as grounded as possible. Community, on the other hand, is off-the-ground and in outer space.

Remember when the Simpsons started getting ridiculous or when Family Guy started relying on cutaways and random pop culture humor? That's when they started to suck. Community is in danger of heading in that direction. If every season Dan Harmon decides to raise the stakes and get more over-the-top than eventually he's gonna cross the line and lose what made the show appealing in the first place.

QFT.

Thats why I cant even be mad at Chevy, because he does have a point. In truth, the show has yet to do better than it's first season, because it's been relying more and more on gimmicks. It feels like its trying way too hard to be different, like that chick in high school that dresses outlandishly so she can be labeled a nonconformist.

 

[Kaleb]

The latest recording is from season two so Chevy could've left if he wanted to, the way season two ended they created the opportunity to write him out. I can see how he was frustrated that his material was cut out. Wonder if anyone told him Harmon sits next to the editor and determines what stays and what doesn't.

Pierce's decision to leave the group at the end of season 2 makes more sense now.

 

[DACrowe]

I disagree that the show is becoming like Family Guy. I think it still walks a fine line and while it does episodes like Pillow Wars or Paintball, it can also do episodes like the great bottle one that Chevy was complaining about on the voicemail that was all about the characters and their relationships or the multiple timelines story which was both high-concept and also very character-driven.

Besides, Chevy's not asking for more story. He's asking for more screentime of him doing pratfalls and physical comedy. He wants it even less, but most of all I think he wants to be the star of the show.

 

[Destructus86]

so, I tried watching the first episode of this show and thought it was boring....does the show improve later?

 

[Kaleb]

so, I tried watching the first episode of this show and thought it was boring....does the show improve later?

If I could recommend an episode it would be the paintball episode from season 1 or the D&D episode from season 2

 

[Road Warrior]

If I could recommend an episode it would be the paintball episode from season 1 or the D&D episode from season 2

And the ultimate timeline from season 3.

 

[LostSon88]

so, I tried watching the first episode of this show and thought it was boring....does the show improve later?

Skip the first 5 episodes...once you get to the Halloween episode, the show finally finds its groove and it's nothing but quality the rest of the way.

 

[Man in the Suit]

I wouldn't skip any episodes.

 

[John Locke]

Yeah don't skip any episodes the Halloween, paintball, D&D, timeline and any other episodes people suggest are funny but they are funnier if you know the characters and that can only happen if you watch the previous episodes.

 

[LostSon88]

I wouldn't skip any episodes.

I did.

I remember watching the pilot on its premiere, being bored and stopped watching.

A month and a half later, I came back to it out of bordem, it was the Halloween episode, and I was hooked.

I've sinced backtracked and seen the 3-4 episodes I missed.

I really don't feel you miss too much by missing the first few shows. Yeah you get the characters names, the setting, basic stuff but IMO the actors don't really find their niche as the characters until that Halloween episode. For me that was the turning point when everything finally clicked.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah don't skip any episodes the Halloween, paintball, D&D, timeline and any other episodes people suggest are funny but they are funnier if you know the characters and that can only happen if you watch the previous episodes.

Exactly this

 

[Pink Ranger]

For me, the episode that really cemented this show as something much more than a "dude trying to get laid" sitcom was Episode 4 (Abed ruining the psychological experiment). After that, it just got better and better.