The Dark Knight Rises Concerns about TDKR

[Conebone69]

You liked BB more than TDK, if I remember correctly?

I did, yeah. I loved TDK though! I just think BB is a better film

 

[Gianakin_]

I did, yeah. I loved TDK though! I just think BB is a better film

Ok, that explains it. Well, like BB and TDK, I'm willing to bet that TDKR will have an original story, with borrowed plot points and elements from a main (or more) graphic novels. So, let's see how it goes. Since I like TDK's story more than BB's, all TDKR has to do for me is to top BB.

 

[Octoberist]

I think Batman Begins is better liked by comic geeks and fanboys, while The Dark Knight is better liked by film lovers and critics.

While I liked the writing much more in The Dark Knight, I think I prefer the set designs in Batman Begins a bit more, due to the Narrows; some neon lights here and there. BUT I really think that The Dark Knight is about DOWNTOWN business anyway, dealing with law and order. So you're not gonna see a lot of ghetto areas.

 

[Gianakin_]

Like Earle has said before, TDK is the better film, BB is the better Batman film (with which I disagree).

 

[Octoberist]

I'm interested in seeing how they will portray Gotham this time around, since it seems like they're also shooting in LA. If they don't go back to Chicago, I wonder if it's gonna be more set driven, or drastically different. Mind you, I did like the previous incarnations of Gotham in the past two films.

 

[Conebone69]

Ok, that explains it. Well, like BB and TDK, I'm willing to bet that TDKR will have an original story, with borrowed plot points and elements from a main (or more) graphic novels. So, let's see how it goes. Since I like TDK's story more than BB's, all TDKR has to do for me is to top BB.

Really? You like TDK's story more then BB's? Batman Begins had such a rich, and original story, and personally more layed/complex than TDK in my opinion

 

[Sith Scotti]

Im a Batman nerd but I prefer TDK over Begins . Loved them both . 2 best superhero films to date.

 

[Octoberist]

I think The Dark Knight's writing was much stronger, however. At least from a dialog point of view, it was much more clever.

 

[Gianakin_]

Really? You like TDK's story more then BB's? Batman Begins had such a rich, and original story, and personally more layed/complex then TDK

Completely the opposite, imo.

 

[Ancracks]

Again, I think the nitpicks are valid, but the way I look at it is this: the continuity errors would a big deal ONLY if it was completely distracting upon your first viewing of the film. Because usual on your first viewing, you're there to absorb the film. I think there's much more positives than negatives, so that's why I tend to overlook some of the flaws that it had. I think there are some continuity errors here and there because of Nolan's semi-messy approach in directing.

A good example is leaving Joker behind when Batman jumps to save Rachel, leaving his poor guests behind. While I was like 'huh', it didn't bother me too much in the long run.

The problems I did point out did distract me the first time I watched the film. It's not like a watched it multiple time and then they started to bother me. I've watched it twice.

 

[Conebone69]

I think The Dark Knight's writing was much stronger, however. At least from a dialog point of view, it was much more clever.

Completely the opposite, imo.

Hmmm, to each his own I suppose haha

 

[Octoberist]

I guess I can see Batman Begins' plot being more mystical or even poetic.

 

[Conebone69]

I guess I can see Batman Begins' plot being more mystical or even poetic.

Yeah, thats a way too put it. I feel that its more of a genuine film, while TDK feels more like a big action blockbuster

 

[RustyCage]

I think Batman Begins is better liked by comic geeks and fanboys, while The Dark Knight is better liked by film lovers and critics.

While I liked the writing much more in The Dark Knight, I think I prefer the set designs in Batman Begins a bit more, due to the Narrows; some neon lights here and there. BUT I really think that The Dark Knight is about DOWNTOWN business anyway, dealing with law and order. So you're not gonna see a lot of ghetto areas.

Yeah, I've reached the conclusion that the visuals suit the subject matter in every instance with Nolan's Batfilms.

 

[Gianakin_]

What I'm grateful for is that I have 2, and soon 3, films that look like 3 acts of a story, rather than movie one and its sequel and its 2nd sequel. It doesn't matter which is my favorite or anyone else's.

 

[Octoberist]

Yeah, thats a way too put it. I feel that its more of a genuine film, while TDK feels more like a big action blockbuster

I see the other way around.

I felt that The Dark Knight felt more like an indie thriller set in Batman film. There were many scenes where it didn't feel like your conventional superhero film. For example, like long takes, no music in some scenes, and the unpredictability of the plot).

Well in the long run, it doesn't matter really since you like both movies. Everyone has their preference..but I DISAGREE about your 'genuine film' comment because it sounds like you're implying something about The Dark Knight unintentionally. Because both are genuine, earnest films.

 

[Gianakin_]

I see the other way around.

I felt that The Dark Knight felt more like an indie thriller set in Batman film. There were many scenes where it didn't feel like your conventional superhero film. For example, like long takes, no music in some scenes, and the unpredictability of the plot).

Well in the long run, it doesn't matter really since you like both movies. Everyone has their preference..but I DISAGREE about your 'genuine film' comment.

Due to Goyer's writing, BB feels more like a conventional blockbuster than TDK to me. The Nolans really shined in TDK, and not just in the story department.

 

[Octoberist]

Oh, you quoted me before I made some changes where i said

Everyone has their preference..but I DISAGREE about your 'genuine film' comment because it sounds like you're implying something about The Dark Knight unintentionally. Because both are genuine, earnest films.

I'll admit that I think The Dark Knight's story is filled to the brim, so there's too much fat there. But it was always an engrossing experience.

 

[Conebone69]

I see the other way around.

I felt that The Dark Knight felt more like an indie thriller set in Batman film. There were many scenes where it didn't feel like your conventional superhero film. For example, like long takes, no music in some scenes, and the unpredictability of the plot).

Well in the long run, it doesn't matter really since you like both movies. Everyone has their preference..but I DISAGREE about your 'genuine film' comment because it sounds like you're implying something about The Dark Knight unintentionally. Because both are genuine, earnest films.

Yeah I get what you mean. Yeah Idk if 'genuine' is the right word but im not sure how to put it

 

[Octoberist]

I don't genuine is the right word, but I get what you're saying.

 

[Gianakin_]

Maybe the expression is "it had more heart"?

 

[Octoberist]

Yeah! I think maybe Batman Begins had more warmth & optimism, where as The Dark Knight is cynical and ominous.

 

[Conebone69]

Maybe the expression is "it had more heart"?

Yeah, thats kind of what im trying to say. Anyways... haha

 

[Gianakin_]

Yeah! I think maybe Batman Begins had more warmth & optimism, where as The Dark Knight is cynical and ominous.

Well, BB was indeed more sentimental than TDK, but as I said above, I love that each movie is so different and provides us with various merits from the mythos.

 

[The Joker]

I see the other way around.

I felt that The Dark Knight felt more like an indie thriller set in Batman film. There were many scenes where it didn't feel like your conventional superhero film. For example, like long takes, no music in some scenes, and the unpredictability of the plot).

One of the many reasons why TDK's a cut above most superhero movies. Begins conformed to a lot of the typical cliches. Tying the lead villain into the hero's origin story, a city of doom plot, the damsel in distress (twice) etc.