Contest of Marvels II Thread 3

Nimrod vs Terrax

There won't be much of Wakanda left after this battle.

Prep-time will not help Terrax. He won't be able to get info, and probably wouldn't look for it if he had access. Similarly, Nimrod may not be able to any informatin. But with Nimrod's abilities to access technology, if there is any information on Terrax on Earth, he may be able to find it. And anything he finds will help him adapt before the fight.


When the fight starts, it'll probably be a brawl. Although with a lack of information (or maybe with the info he finds) Nimrod may try and sneak attack Terrax by camouflaging himself.

Obviously, Terrax is no slouch and will probably take anything Nimrod throws at him with little problem. At least in the beginning. Surprisingly, Nimrod may actually be stronger than Terrax (Terrax in the class 75 range, Nimrod above class 100). But Terrax likely weilds far more power in his blasts, and has his cosmic axe to slice and dice with.

This will not be an easy fight for either opponent. The problem Nimrod faces is the sheer durability and power Terrax wields.

But Terrax may face the bigger problem of Nimord's adaptability. As Terrax attacks, Nimrod will adapt. He will develop new strategies and counter-measures to everything Terrax uses. Even if Terrax destroys Nimrod, Nimrod can rebuild. And when he's rebuilt, he'll have also modified his systems to prevent Terrax from using the same attacks or methods of attack again.

And all the while, Nimrod is getting stronger and smarter. He can not only better counter Terrax's attacks, but improve his own attacks to better hurt and defeat Terrax. And this is why there will be little of Wakanda left after this fight because of the power these two will be throwing at each other.

For Terrax to win this, he'd have to atomize Nimrod. Actually, he'd probably have to go farther because Nimrod recovers from almost anything. But that's not how Terrax fights, and he'd have no reason to fight like that, even if he's able to take Nimrod down a couple of times. And while Terrax fights on, Nimrod learns. With the exposure they'll have in this fight, combined with Nimrod's advanced sensors, it wouldn't be surprising for Nimrod to learn how to tap into the Power Cosmic and hit Terrax with his own abilities.

With almost any other opponent, Terrax would be the winner. In this case, he's facing a being that can adapt to anything he throws and become stronger and better to the point where Terrax falls.


Nimrod wins
 
Rebuttal: Nimrod vs. Terrax

There won't be much of Wakanda left after this battle.

That's for sure. Wakanda will make our previous location, Genosha, look like a pleasure resort.

Prep-time will not help Terrax. He won't be able to get info, and probably wouldn't look for it if he had access. Similarly, Nimrod may not be able to any informatin. But with Nimrod's abilities to access technology, if there is any information on Terrax on Earth, he may be able to find it. And anything he finds will help him adapt before the fight.

I agree pretty much with the above information. Although, the only problem I would see is if Nimrod does obtain any type of information, it won't be detailed at all, like Avenger's and Fantastic Four database would have, and Nimrod hasn't ever fought anyone with Cosmic Powers; so, he wouldn't know how to adapt to this type of fighter at all. From what I've seen, he either needs the information fed into him by someone or he has to actually experience it.


When the fight starts, it'll probably be a brawl. Although with a lack of information (or maybe with the info he finds) Nimrod may try and sneak attack Terrax by camouflaging himself.

Yep, it will be a brawl. But, do correct me if I'm wrong, I don't remember Nimrod ever being the "sneak attack" type.

Obviously, Terrax is no slouch and will probably take anything Nimrod throws at him with little problem. At least in the beginning. Surprisingly, Nimrod may actually be stronger than Terrax (Terrax in the class 75 range, Nimrod above class 100). But Terrax likely weilds far more power in his blasts, and has his cosmic axe to slice and dice with.

This will not be an easy fight for either opponent. The problem Nimrod faces is the sheer durability and power Terrax wields.

But Terrax may face the bigger problem of Nimord's adaptability. As Terrax attacks, Nimrod will adapt. He will develop new strategies and counter-measures to everything Terrax uses. Even if Terrax destroys Nimrod, Nimrod can rebuild. And when he's rebuilt, he'll have also modified his systems to prevent Terrax from using the same attacks or methods of attack again.

I agree with a lot of what's said above. But, the amount of time it takes Nimrod to rebuild himself would mean he's been taken out of the battle. What would hurt Terrax more would be if we end up having a tie and have to rebattle. Then, what Nimrod has learned will be a great advantage. (Of course, Terrax would then know about Nimrod and have to rethink his battle strategy.)

And all the while, Nimrod is getting stronger and smarter. He can not only better counter Terrax's attacks, but improve his own attacks to better hurt and defeat Terrax. And this is why there will be little of Wakanda left after this fight because of the power these two will be throwing at each other.

For Terrax to win this, he'd have to atomize Nimrod. Actually, he'd probably have to go farther because Nimrod recovers from almost anything. But that's not how Terrax fights, and he'd have no reason to fight like that, even if he's able to take Nimrod down a couple of times. And while Terrax fights on, Nimrod learns. With the exposure they'll have in this fight, combined with Nimrod's advanced sensors, it wouldn't be surprising for Nimrod to learn how to tap into the Power Cosmic and hit Terrax with his own abilities.

With almost any other opponent, Terrax would be the winner. In this case, he's facing a being that can adapt to anything he throws and become stronger and better to the point where Terrax falls.

Yes, Nimrod is very difficult to defeat. But, the reason why we state that an opponent has to only incapacitate a foe for a certain amount of time is the same reason why the contests aren't open-ended. Some of the partipants could go on forever with their near immortality. For example, someone can defeat Wolverine for a time being; but, his healing factor, especially nowadays, could make the battle last forever. This is very possibly the case with Nimrod. (Or, with these two powerhouses facing each other...a battle that could possible last ages.)

If Terrax realizes Nimrod is possibly too uber for him or that the match will last longer than he desires, he'll take all of Wakanda and bury Nimrod. It will be the largest, deepest burial plot every made.

Again, this is just an awesome battle. Either way, the other contestants win by having one of the two out of this competition.
 
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BRACKET 5,

Match 9:

Shriek (AHURA MAZDA) bio



vs.

Hercules (KYTRIGGER) bio

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This is very late.

Basically Hercules does have a weakness. He is prone to madness and strong emotions. As an example, he came up with a bout of madness and killed his first wife Megara and his three children. Which is the reason he had to do the all-famous 12 labours.

Shriek will instill that madness in him causing him to kill in an uncontrollable rage. Zeus will be aware of his actions and as such will smite him down.

Is this strategy real...somewhat and is along the lines of what I was going to use but given I completely forgot about this batle vote for Hercules even on the off chance you were not going to.
 
Again, this is just an awesome battle. Either way, the other contestants win by having one of the two out of this competition.

hmmm.....I think I took both out last year....at least Terrax with Iron Man.....:p
 
Rebuttal: Nimrod vs. Terrax

I agree pretty much with the above information. Although, the only problem I would see is if Nimrod does obtain any type of information, it won't be detailed at all, like Avenger's and Fantastic Four database would have, and Nimrod hasn't ever fought anyone with Cosmic Powers; so, he wouldn't know how to adapt to this type of fighter at all. From what I've seen, he either needs the information fed into him by someone or he has to actually experience it.

I was thinking along the same lines. But any information is helpful. Just knowing about Terrax's general power level gives Nimrod a real chance to improve itself before hand.


Yep, it will be a brawl. But, do correct me if I'm wrong, I don't remember Nimrod ever being the "sneak attack" type.

Nimrod adapts tactics as well as abilities. So he may go the sneaky first-strike route once he learns of Terrax's power level. Or scan Terrax from a safe distance with his sensors. And Nimrod has disguised himself in order to infiltrate and learn vital intel, so it's not beyond him, even if its not a standard method.


I agree with a lot of what's said above. But, the amount of time it takes Nimrod to rebuild himself would mean he's been taken out of the battle. What would hurt Terrax more would be if we end up having a tie and have to rebattle. Then, what Nimrod has learned will be a great advantage. (Of course, Terrax would then know about Nimrod and have to rethink his battle strategy.)

Possible, although Nimrod wouldn't be destroyed, just in a state of repair. Especially if Terrax doesn't try to atomize him, which wouldn't be normal for him to do in the initial attacks. More likely he'd hit Nimrod with a super powerful blast, or slice him in half with his axe. Thinking Nimrod finished, he turns away and surprise!


Yes, Nimrod is very difficult to defeat. But, the reason why we state that an opponent has to only incapacitate a foe for a certain amount of time is the same reason why the contests aren't open-ended. Some of the partipants could go on forever with their near immortality. For example, someone can defeat Wolverine for a time being; but, his healing factor, especially nowadays, could make the battle last forever. This is very possibly the case with Nimrod. (Or, with these two powerhouses facing each other...a battle that could possible last ages.)

This should only be a problem if Terrax realizes he needs to vaporize Nimrod. Nimrod's been shown to repair quickly from damage (and not so quickly depending on the writer). The Borg analogy is what I was thinking too. If Nimrod falls, he adapts. If Nimrod falls again, he adapts. And each time he rises, he'll be harder and harder for Terrax to stop.

If Terrax realizes Nimrod is possibly too uber for him or that the match will last longer than he desires, he'll take all of Wakanda and bury Nimrod. It will be the largest, deepest burial plot every made.

Totally within Terrax's normal fighting style. And he's got the power to do it. Problem is, Nimrod could adapt a phasing ability to avoid damage (if he doesn't already have it as a normal ability). Or, much more likely, Nimrod would just teleport to safety high in the sky. After Terrax drops the country, and before the dust even starts to settle, he'll be attack from above.

Again, this is just an awesome battle. Either way, the other contestants win by having one of the two out of this competition.

Yeah, the others got lucky with this draw.


Nimrod wins
 
*Hercules

*Terrax

*New Sun

*Wildside - (I probably would have voted for Bi-Beast; but, there was no debate to sway me from Ky's decent argument.)
 
Hercules - Better debate.
Nimrod - Awesome fight.
New Sun - For obvious reasons.
Bi-Beast - Even Squirrel-Girl beat him.
 
Hercules
Nimrod
New Sun
Wildside (almost voted for Bi-Beast because of sheer power, but the evidence controlling his minds swayed me)
 
Wildside
Hercules
New Sun (Man I love this character!)
Nimrod (Excellent debate, tough call. I could have kept switching sides on this all day long)
 
Wow, now that I'm looking over the votes I'm surprised the Nimrod/Terrax match isnt' closer. It sure deserves to be.
 
Results So Far:

Hercules currently beating Shriek 8-0
Nimrod currently beating Terrax 6-2
New Sun currently beating Spitfire 8-0
Wildside currently beating Bi-Beast 7-1
 
Hercules
New Sun
Terrax (Tough call....an interesting matchup)
Wildside
 
Hercules: simply outclassed
Terrax: Atomising nimrod is well within his power. It'll go back and forth all day but evntually terrax will win
Wildside: Debate = win
New Sun: Debate = win
 
Hercules
Terrax
New Sun
Bi-Beast (lame, I know :D)

Sorry I didn't debate Bi-Beast, I seriously thought I didn't have a match this week based on Phaedrus's post in the Discussion thread.
 
Final Results:

Hercules beat Shriek 11-0
Nimrod beat Terrax 6-5
New Sun beat Spitfire 11-0
Wildside beat Bi-Beast 9-2
 
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BRACKET 5,

Match 11:

Omega Red (WIEGEABO) bio

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vs.

Emma Frost(PHAEDRUS45) bio

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Match 12:

Toxin (HELLSTORMER) bio

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vs.

Drax (HELLSTORMER) bio

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BRACKET 6,

Match 11:

Kylun (PRIMEMOVER) bio

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vs.

Man-Thing (HELLSTORMER) bio

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Match 12:

Fandral (HARLEKIN) bio

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vs.

Electro (DARTHPHERE) bio

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LOCATION: THE RAFT

The Raft is a fictional prison facility for super-human criminals (predominantly supervillians) in the Marvel Universe. It first appeared in Alias #26 as the "Maximum-Maximum Security" facility of the Ryker's Island Maximum Security Penitentiary, a fictionalised version of New York's Riker's Island.

As revealed in New Avengers #1, The Raft is on an island separate from Ryker's Island. The Raft has eight underwater levels of cells. Each cell is surrounded by thick steel and lined with adamantium. The cells have no windows, instead each cell door has a video camera monitoring the inmate it houses. The video surveillance is two-way, allowing for the inmates to see who is looking at them. The inmates' powers are neutralized and they are allowed no human contact.

(The Raft will be empty, except for the two combatants. Anything that would otherwise be inside of The Raft, except for individuals, will be there. That would include such things as whatever weapons or devices that are normally present to keep the inmates in order.)
 
Omega Red vs. Emma Frost:

Emma's powers:

Emma Frost is a transmorph capable of accessing both a human form with telepathic abilities or an organic diamond form with enhanced strength and durability. Since her introduction, Frost has displayed the telepathic standards of broadcasting and receiving thoughts, mind control, altering perceptions and memories, astral projection, etc. She is highly skilled at creating electronic devices that amplify/block/engage psionic powers, as well as exploiting flaws in most electronic equipment.

Also:

During the massacre of over 16 million mutants in Genosha, Frost developed a secondary mutation: the ability to transform herself into a perfectly smooth, flexible, translucent diamond-like substance ... recent clarifications in X-Men #190 and Astonishing X-Men have shown that Morrison's initial depiction of her powers was correct: that Frost cannot access her psychic powers in diamond form and vice versa. Her mind's condition when in diamond form has also been inconsistent. Phoenix: Warsong #3 however confirms that Emma's mind is completely immune to telepathy (both communication and assault) while diamond.

Omega Red:

AbilitiesSuperhuman strength, stamina, agility, durability and reflexes
Regenerative healing factor
Carbonadium-laced skeleton and retractable tentacles housed within each arm
Ability to secrete pheromones that result in sickness and death
ability to drain the lifeforce of his victims via ensnaring them within his carbonadium tentacles
Immunity to radiation poisoning


Now, while Omega Red will know of Emma Frost, Emma Frost will know much, much more about Omega Red and be totally aware of all aspects of his powers.

There really isn't much to say about his fight. It will be over very, very quickly. The proof lies in the following statement:

Despite his physical toughness, it is also revealed in X-Men vol.2 #7 that Omega Red's mind is vulnerable to telepathic attacks.

Plus, Omega Red's spores will be ineffective, since Emma can assume her diamond form.

Basically, Wiegeabo will finally double his loss count, and I finally will get a victory over him in Round 2. It's been long overdue. There is just nothing Omega Red can do to win this match.

Winner = Emma Frost
 

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