Contest of Marvels II Thread 3

[Zoken]

Hisako
Victor Mancha
Ultimus
Kitty Pryde

 

[Phaedrus45]

Results So Far:

Mandarin currently tied with Hisako Ichiki 3-3
Victor Mancha currently beating Scorpio 5-1
Ultimus currently beating Maxam 6-0
Kitty Pryde currently beating Wrecker 4-2

 

[DarkHellRider]

Hisako
Victor Mancha
Ultimus
Kitty Pryde

 

[primemover]

Hisako Ichiki
Victor Mancha
Ultimus
Wrecker

 

[Phaedrus45]

bump

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Hisako Ichiki
Victor Mancha
Ultimus
Kitty

 

[JewishHobbit]

Kitty Pryde
Mandarin (I hope Hisako wins, but I don't see her winning in a real fight)
Victor Mancha
Ultimus

 

[Midnight Ice]

Kitty Pryde
Mandarin
Scorpio (tons more experience. Victor has been taken out to easily due to his lack of experience)
Ultimus

 

[Phaedrus45]

Final Results:

Hisako Ichiki beat Mandarin 6-5
Victor Mancha beat Scorpio 9-2
Ultimus beat Maxam 11-0
Kitty Pryde beat Wrecker 8-3

 

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 5,

Match 5:

Vengence (HIPPY FASCIST) bio

vs.

Mantis (DARKHELLRIDER) bio

Match 6:

Sleepwalker (HELLSTORMER) bio

vs.

The Master (MIDNIGHT ICE) bio

 

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 6,

Match 5:

Ch'vayre (ICEMAN/PSYLOCKE) bio

vs.

Synch (KYTRIGGER) bio

Match 6:

Thunderstrike (AHURA MAZDA) bio

vs.

Enchantress (HIPPY FASCIST) bio

 

[Phaedrus45]

LOCATION: Asgard

Asgard is a planetoid existing in a alternate dimension within the mainstream Marvel Comics' universe, Earth-616. It is based on the Asgard of Norse mythology and is home to six different races. Asgard features prominently in tales of Thor. In the comic books, Asgard is an asteroid-like world suspended in a "Sea of Space". Gravity radiates from somewhere underneath this asteroid. The top of this "asteroid" is flat like a table. If someone stepped off of this "table", they would fall off the "asteroid" and down through space until they reached the "gravity-generator". Asgard can only be reached from Earth by crossing Bifrost, the Rainbow Bridge.

(Since the residents of Asgard wouldn't take to kindly to people invading their home and fighting, all residents of Asgard have been removed. Plus, nobody will have access to objects within Asgard that are specific to certain Asgardian individuals, like Odin. Simply put, it would be too difficult to access whether or not individuals would be able to lift or use these objects, and it's easier to go with that ruling.)

 

[kytrigger]

Ch'vayre (ICEMAN/PSYLOCKE) bio

vs.

Synch (KYTRIGGER) bio

Really unlucky draw here for Ch'vayre.

Powers:

Ch'vayre can grow in size. Ev erytime he uses it, he is bigger normally too.

Synch has teh ability to take on any powers of a mutant in his vicinity. Once he has their powers, he has basically mastered them instantly and is often shown being much better at using their powers, and doing things with the powers that the original mutants could never even do. he can also track mutants by sensing their aura.

Examples:
Synch took Jubilee's crappy powers one time and was able to blow things up on a molecular level. Somethign that is FAR beyond anything Jubilee has ever shown to do.

He also took Chamber's powers once and was able to easily fly. Something Chamber had no idea he could even do.


Basically Ch'vayre, being a mutant, is screwed. Synch has all of his powers and knows how to use them both better, and in ways Ch'vayre probably never even thought about. Ch'vayre can't even sneak up on Synch because Synch will always know where he is by sensing his aura.

Now it's hard to actually be able to say how Synch would use his powers since it's all speculative. He could not only grow himslef, but possibly be able to grow and shrink other people (including Ch'vayre). He could simply just be able to grow even bigger and stronger than Ch'vayre. or it could be some crazy latent mutant ability too where he can expand ch'vayre's atoms making him explode. All of these thigns are possible with Synch, and while it is tough to say exactly how he would beat Ch'vayre with his own powers, in teh end, he will still be able to use them better than Ch'vayre.

Winner- Synch

 

[Hellstormer]

Match 6:

Sleepwalker (HELLSTORMER) bio

vs.

The Master (MIDNIGHT ICE) bio

I'm not entirely familier with the character but here it goes.

Powers:
Master-Genius-level intellect,
Repressed aging,
Battlesuit contains advanced technology and weapons,
Superhuman speed, reflexes, stamina, strength, agility and durability

Sleepwalker-Superhuman strength and durability.
Levitation.
Substance altering eyebeams.
Imaginator device

Now I doubt either one can get info on one another but Sleepwalker has a great variety of options with his substance altering ability. He can alter the battlesuit the Master wears into a solid block making it a prison of sorts that he can't get out of.

WInner=Sleepwalker

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Match 6:

Thunderstrike (AHURA MAZDA) bio

vs.

Enchantress (HIPPY FASCIST) bio

This is an interesting and what would be a tough battle. Each one knows the other very well as well as knowing Asgard. So there is no home advantage and no advantage for prep time.

Amora would try to avoid a head on battle and instead she would attempt to use her wiles, or sorcerous skills to win this battle. Thunderstrike would be aware of any of her machinations and would be able to use his mace to protect himself from her and at the same time make the battle a physical one, taking her down.

He would not even be able to steal a kiss because he knows that would be the end of him. He woudl just knock her down and leave her be.

 

[Midnight Ice]

Match 6:

Sleepwalker (HELLSTORMER) bio

vs.

The Master (MIDNIGHT ICE) bio

Ok, The Master has this match easily won. Here are some of the main reasons The Master would quickly wipe the floor with Sleepwalker.

*His strength is enhanced, and he was able to break Sasquatch's arm by grabbing it with both hands.

*He has enhanced speed and agility, can move at 65 MPH, has showed enough speed to slice Warbird with a sword.

*He knocked out Namor the Sub-Mariner with a single punch.

* He can teleport as well as fly and has a froce field.

Sleepwalkers main weapon is his eye beam. The Master would easily be able to use his enhanced speed or teleportation to dodge the eye beam and take Sleepwalker out with one blow. Even if the beam hit him, the force field covering The Master would absorb it or even fire it back at Sleepwalker.

Winner: The Master

 

[Hellstormer]

Match 6:

Sleepwalker (HELLSTORMER) bio

vs.

The Master (MIDNIGHT ICE) bio

Ok, The Master has this match easily won. Here are some of the main reasons The Master would quickly wipe the floor with Sleepwalker.

*His strength is enhanced, and he was able to break Sasquatch's arm by grabbing it with both hands.

*He has enhanced speed and agility, can move at 65 MPH, has showed enough speed to slice Warbird with a sword.

*He knocked out Namor the Sub-Mariner with a single punch.

* He can teleport as well as fly and has a froce field.

Sleepwalkers main weapon is his eye beam. The Master would easily be able to use his enhanced speed or teleportation to dodge the eye beam and take Sleepwalker out with one blow. Even if the beam hit him, the force field covering The Master would absorb it or even fire it back at Sleepwalker.

Winner: The Master

What you don't seem to grasp is that all these abilities stem from the Master's suit and Sleepwalker is a matter manipulator. Meaning he can turn the suit into a solid prison. Sleepwalker's never been shown to be ncie and I think he has killed so doing this wouldn't mean a thing to him. Its just a way of winning.

 

[hippy fascist]

Vengeance vs Mantis

Mantis only ability is to control plants, vengenace can control fire and is immune to all non-magical attacks. Vengeance can burn any plants she sends after him, and anyway it's a telepathic link to a living organism, not magic so it wouldn't effect him. She has nothing that can block hellfire.Vengeance wins.

WINNER: VENGEANCE!

 

[Midnight Ice]

What you don't seem to grasp is that all these abilities stem from the Master's suit and Sleepwalker is a matter manipulator. Meaning he can turn the suit into a solid prison. Sleepwalker's never been shown to be ncie and I think he has killed so doing this wouldn't mean a thing to him. Its just a way of winning.

Oh, I totally grasp that. What you don't grasp is that The Master is just too fast for Sleepwalker to hit with his eyebeams. Sleepwalker cannot manipulate the suit without hitting it with his eyebeams first. If he cannot hit him, he cannot beat him.


Winner: The Master

 

[hippy fascist]

Match 6:

Thunderstrike (AHURA MAZDA) bio

vs.

Enchantress (HIPPY FASCIST) bio

Ok, so I'll do this as quickly as possible in order to let ahura get a response up.

This is enchantress, one of the most powerful mystics in asgard. She is further boosted by being within the location. Since Thuderstrike is simply a guy with a magic mace (rather than a full fledged god) I would argue that he would gain less benefit from the surroundings. Esssentially he is thor-lite and considering even thor has had trouble with resisting the enchatress in the past I have no doubt she can do what's necessary to overcome this inferior copy

With her fully charged magics she could easily influence him to point where he simply doesn't want to fight even without a kiss. She is known for her use of magics to bolster her seduction skills and has in the past manipulated eric to the point where he attacked sif resulting in him getting a kicking from thor.

Simply put, enchantress is one of the most power magic casters in asgard. Thunderstrike is basically on the same level as your average asgardian. Even if she can't seduce him there's various other spells she can use to take him out of action.

WINNER: ENCHANTRESS!

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Ok, so I'll do this as quickly as possible in order to let ahura get a response up.

Thank you

This is enchantress, one of the most powerful mystics in asgard. She is further boosted by being within the location. Since Thuderstrike is simply a guy with a magic mace (rather than a full fledged god) I would argue that he would gain less benefit from the surroundings. Esssentially he is thor-lite and considering even thor has had trouble with resisting the enchatress in the past I have no doubt she can do what's necessary to overcome this inferior copy

Thunderstrike is thor Lite but in essence that includes super strength, speed and the ability to shoot energy bolts out of his mace. Also, Enchantress does not get any major boost within Asgard as her powers are as effective on earth as they are there.

The thing is thunderstrike is going into this with perfect knowledge of Amora and will know what she will want to do. And therefore she will have no element of surprise which has always been the biggest things in her favor when she battled others.

Things are out in the open and as such, she is at a disadvantage.

With her fully charged magics she could easily influence him to point where he simply doesn't want to fight even without a kiss. She is known for her use of magics to bolster her seduction skills and has in the past manipulated eric to the point where he attacked sif resulting in him getting a kicking from thor.

I would normally agree here except that Thunderstrike will know very well what she would plan to do and can use his mace and knowledge to avoid her manipulative effects.

And in the past he was caught unawares which would not be the case here.

Simply put, enchantress is one of the most power magic casters in asgard. Thunderstrike is basically on the same level as your average asgardian. Even if she can't seduce him there's various other spells she can use to take him out of action.

He is more powerful then the average asgardian being on par or at least close in strength to people like Vidar.

And if she cannot seduce him there is also several things he can do with his mace to take her out.

WINNER: THUNDERSTRIKE

 

[hippy fascist]

Thank you



Thunderstrike is thor Lite but in essence that includes super strength, speed and the ability to shoot energy bolts out of his mace. Also, Enchantress does not get any major boost within Asgard as her powers are as effective on earth as they are there.

I beg to differ

Her knowledge of arcane lore enables her to cast spells with a variety of specific effects. Among the many spells she has employed include illusion-casting, temporary paralysis, deflection of matter and energy, interdimensional travel, and elemental conversion. These spells derive their potency from Asgardian sources (such as power objects or entities), and thus are most potent when used in the dimension of Asgard itself. A prolonged absence from Asgard tends to diminish her powers, though they never fade completely.

Also her magic bolts have a maximum force equal to 20lbs of tnt. That's enough to rip through the hull of a tank. Enough to at least knock thunderstrike out

The thing is thunderstrike is going into this with perfect knowledge of Amora and will know what she will want to do. And therefore she will have no element of surprise which has always been the biggest things in her favor when she battled others.

Maybe for manipulation, but when using her magics to enhance this ability it ceases to be an issue. You can't prepare for magical mind control

I would normally agree here except that Thunderstrike will know very well what she would plan to do and can use his mace and knowledge to avoid her manipulative effects.

He may be able to block magic bolts but as said before, when someone is casting something on your senses it has no tangible form and therefore would be near impossible to block

And in the past he was caught unawares which would not be the case here.

In the past she hasn't used her magics to aid in this practise, now she will be so this is moot

He is more powerful then the average asgardian being on par or at least close in strength to people like Vidar.

That's up to the voters to decide, I've never seen anything to indicate this. He also lacks the experience of the enchantress, another disadvantage.

And if she cannot seduce him there is also several things he can do with his mace to take her out.

WINNER: THUNDERSTRIKE

And there are several shields she can throw up to block them, or she could simply use illusionary magic to distract him and sneak up on him. Sorry ahura but he's simply outclassed. Diet asgardian will always lose against the full flavour version.

WINNER: ENCHANTRESS!

 

[hippy fascist]

This is an interesting and what would be a tough battle. Each one knows the other very well as well as knowing Asgard. So there is no home advantage and no advantage for prep time.

Enchantress would know the lay of the land far better than eric. He's barely spent any time in asgard whereas enchantress has been there all her life. She wins on location I'm afraid.

Amora would try to avoid a head on battle and instead she would attempt to use her wiles, or sorcerous skills to win this battle. Thunderstrike would be aware of any of her machinations and would be able to use his mace to protect himself from her and at the same time make the battle a physical one, taking her down.

That's the problem with magic casters, while thunderstrikes options are fairly predictable enchantress can perform hundreds if not thousands of spells. She's too flexible for him and if anyone is going to be predictable it's eric.

He would not even be able to steal a kiss because he knows that would be the end of him. He woudl just knock her down and leave her be.

He will be expecting her to walk straight up to him and try and seduce him. All she has to do is cast a couple of glamours to distract him, sneak up behind and plant a kiss on his cheek, game over.

WINNER: ENCHANTRESS!

 

[Hellstormer]

Oh, I totally grasp that. What you don't grasp is that The Master is just too fast for Sleepwalker to hit with his eyebeams. Sleepwalker cannot manipulate the suit without hitting it with his eyebeams first. If he cannot hit him, he cannot beat him.


Winner: The Master

But if he manipulates the area around the MAster into some kind of holding thing (a large area one) then he can make it smaller and eventually trap the Master and do away with the suit.

Winner=Sleepwalker

 

[Ahura Mazda]

Also her magic bolts have a maximum force equal to 20lbs of tnt. That's enough to rip through the hull of a tank. Enough to at least knock thunderstrike out

he can avoid her bagic bolts and even use his mace to create a shield which blocks them.

Maybe for manipulation, but when using her magics to enhance this ability it ceases to be an issue. You can't prepare for magical mind control

She is not a telepath. She seduces people to get them under her control. Thunderstrike would be aware of that and could avoid her seduction plans.

He may be able to block magic bolts but as said before, when someone is casting something on your senses it has no tangible form and therefore would be near impossible to block

That would be true except she may not use such magic when she prides herself on her natural seductive ability.

In the past she hasn't used her magics to aid in this practise, now she will be so this is moot

If she has not in the past, whe will not be doing it this time as well just because you say so.

That's up to the voters to decide, I've never seen anything to indicate this. He also lacks the experience of the enchantress, another disadvantage.

I have in the comics where he stands up against class 100 villains. He is at least class 50.

And there are several shields she can throw up to block them, or she could simply use illusionary magic to distract him and sneak up on him. Sorry ahura but he's simply outclassed. Diet asgardian will always lose against the full flavour version.

I do agree that this is far from an easy battle for Thunderstrike but for someone who has more power then the average Asgardian and a persentage of the power of Thor, he would be able to take the battle to Amora and may beat her.

WINNER: THUNDERSTRIKE!