Contest of Marvels II Thread 4

Results So Far:

Vidar currently beating Skin 7-3
Rachel Grey currently beating Piledriver 9-1
Pulsar currently beating Puma 9-1
Hogun currently beating Wasp 9-1
 
...Vidar (damn you made it tough JH)
Rachel Grey
Pulsar
Hogun(Wasp is definitely underated, too bad no debate)
 
Vidar - nice try JH :woot:
Rachel Grey - I hope she does well in the tournament (Damn you HF for stealing her from me :csad: )
Pulsar
Hogun - How many friggin' Asgardians do you have on your team Ahura?
 
Iceman/Psylocke said:
Hogun - How many friggin' Asgardians do you have on your team Ahura?


Quite a few...unfortunately Thor got snatched away from me and Odin was not available ;)
 
Final Results:

Vidar beat Skin 12-4
Rachel Grey beat Piledriver 15-1
Pulsar currently beating Puma 14-2
Hogun currently beating Wasp 14-2
 
Thanks guys - this has been a perfect week for me.....as far as the Contest of M goes :o
 
My one bleedin' victory.

Sod it all, I'm going out for drinks. :p
 
Eh, the fact that I managed to swindle three other votes for Skin against an Asguardian God makes me happy :)
 
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BRACKET 7,

Match 7:

Silhouette (WOLVERINE25TH) bio



vs.

X-23 (HIPPY FASCIST) bio



Match 8:

Mesmero (HARLEKIN) bio



vs.

US Agent (HELLSTORMER) bio

 
BRACKET 8,

Match 7:

Karma (HARLEKIN) bio



vs.

Damask(DARTHPHERE) bio



Match 8:

Fixer (WOLVERINE25TH) bio



vs.

Firebird (POWDERMAN) bio

 
Location:

Project: Pegasus was originally intended to research alternative (and unusual) forms of energy, but has also been used as a prison for super-powered individuals. The location of this facility is described as being in the Adirondack Mountains in New York state.
The facility is remembered best in comics for "The Project Pegasus Saga" printed in Marvel Two-in-One #53-#58 (later collected as a trade paperback of the same title with art by John Byrne and George Pérez). However, its recurring use as a prison for supervillians of the Marvel Universe has led to a number of comics stories in the following decades, significant among them an emergence of the Serpent Crown. Several Marvel characters have served terms working security at the facility, including The Thing, Quasar and Spider-Woman. At one time it also served as a temporary home for the Squadron Supreme when they were exiled from their own universe.

For our version, we will be using the facility that was designed to be used as a prison for super-powered individuals. The prison will not be occupied by anyone except the combantants. Combatants cannot leave the prison.
 
Mesmero vs U.S. Agent

The Agent's recent beatdown by the Purple Man alone should show that John Walker is quite capable of being controlled mentally. That's exactly Mesmero's forte, and he won't hesitate to use his powers on U.S. Agent. Mesmero will be able to find info on the Agent through a number of sources, such as the Weapon-X files or simply look up the news.

All Mesmero really needs to do is make eye contact, and he's got this in the bag.

WINNER=MESMERO
 
Karma vs Damask

This is an interesting match.

Karma has the ability to take control of minds, but it's not specifically a telepathic power, she's not a telepath. It's a psionic ability that overwhelms the consciousness of the other one. There's a case to be made that this too would be uneffective against Damask. I'd like to think she'd still be capable of controlling her.

In the event that she can't though, there is nothing Damask is capable of that Karma can't ward of either. Her psionic skinning blades, meant to afflict the person's mind would be useless against Karma, because she can generate a psionic deflector shield that will protect her.

This would mean these two are at a stalemate and it comes down to hand-to-hand combat. Damask may have been an assassin for Poccy, but she always used her skinning blades rather than actually face her opponents in combat. I surmise that she is formidable though. Karma on the other hand is very proficient in the use of medieval weaponry and also firearms. She can just pick up some heat in the Project's building and go to town if she has no other option. She's also been trained by the X-Men, so she would know a few moves.

If her powers or fighting skills don't do it, she can use Project Pegasus to her advantage. Unlike Damask, Karma will be capable of finding information on the compound via the X-Men files. She can use this knowledge to her advantage, springing a trap on Damask or simply luring her into one of the cells.

She's got the skills, the brains, the knowledge (and the power).

WINNER=KARMA
 
X-23 vs Sillhouette

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Ok, I know everyone hates X-23 but this is supposed to be about who would win in a fight, not the "Contest of Popular Marvels" so let's get that out of the way from the start :(

X-23, while a clone of wolverine does differ in several key areas. Firstly she doesn't have an adamantium skeleton. She posseses addamantium claws but was able to escape from weapon x before they applied the metal to her skeleton. Now you may initially think this puts her in a weaker position...HOWEVER, as her healing factor doesn't have to combat the adamantium that wolverine's does so it is actually considered to be more effective than his. To remind anybody not fully versed in wolverine's mythology, in a similar way to cable's telepathic abilities being used to keep the techno virus at bay wolverine's healing factor has always been restricted by having to stave off adamantium poisoning. Taking this into account I can't work out any way for Silhouette to do any damage to X-23 that she couldn't simply shrug off.:o

Ok, there are certain powers the silhouette has that are ideally suited to this location. She can shadowmelt rendering her almost completely invisible. The downside to this is that x-23 has all of senses heightened. If she can't see silhouette she can certainly smell her or hear her heartbeat.

Silhouette can also teleport to a limit extent (although she finds it something of a strain (remeber she is a mutate not a mutant. Her powers are not on the same level as say nightcrawler or cloak (even though cloak's technically a mutate too(way to many brackets in this sentence...))) This is all well and good but we are talking about x-23 here! Silhouette can only teleport between existing shadows and x-23 has reflexes that are beyond superhuman.

Once the fight reaches close-combat not only does she have the adamantium claws (it sounds harsh but she cold simply slice silhouette's crutches in half, as she's paralyzed from the waist down this would render unable to defend herself, possibly even to continue the fight full stop) but she is a vastly superior martial artist and infinately more agile than silhouette. She has fought wolverine (who is considered to be the greatest close quarters fighter in the marvel U) to a standstill, endured the rigourous training endured during weapon x (government training is good but there's really no conditioning like the constant threat of cattle prods and a slow-painfull death...) and has the aforementioned heightened strength, reflexes, stamina, agility...need I go on? Silhouette is completely outclassed in this department. To close this point I shall quote the mighty wikipedia

wikipedia said:
X-23 received intensive training in ranged weapons, explosives and charges, and both armed and unarmed martial arts. Her skills are so advanced that during the New X-Men's confrontation with the advanced sentinel code-named Nimrod, she was the only member of the team that the sentinel assessed as a severe threat.

yes this arc of new x-men occured after the contest of marvels started, but it is not a new ability, it is simply a characters assesment of all of her existing abilites. Therefore I believe it is admissable (I always wanted to be a lawyer when I was a kid :csad: )

The only trick I can think of is that silhouette's crutches contain a poison designed to paralyse it's recipients. Firstly she has to get in a position to hit x-23 with this suomewhat cumbersome weapon, near impossible. Secondly, her healing factor is GREATER THAN WOLVERINE'S! To use a car metaphor. Wolverine and X-23 are like the BMW M3, they both have masses of power under the hood, but crucially, x-23 has had the adamantium restrictor plate removed whereas wolverine is still stuck topping out at 150mph. Wolverine has survived a nuclear missile landing on him. There is no way silhouette could ever incapacitate X-23. Her system would scrub any poison or tranquiliser she got hit with and any blows silhouette managed to land would be nothing more than a few seconds inconvenience.

X-23 WINS!
 
Phaedrus45 said:
Match 8:

Mesmero (HARLEKIN) bio



vs.

US Agent (HELLSTORMER) bio

I'm not gonna lie this is a tought match. Mesmero has extremely good mesmorizing powers but Walker's a Capt. America without restraint. He's in peak physical condition, I tihnk enough to know reality from fanatasy and be able to break any kind of spell Mes has one him. If he even gets that far, Walker would have Avenger clearence to records so he would be able to get some information and he wouldn't go in unprepared. He would go in there and immediatly go for the kill and not hold back and I tihnk he would win.
 
Damask comes around on Karma!!


Witty, yes I know. Lets get into the matchup right quick.

Damask is the AOA version of Ms. Steed. Her powers include Psionic skinning' blades that attack minds. Immunity to telepathy.

Karma takes possession of other people's minds. She controls their actions while she "rides" them, but a physical attack on her host can hurt her as well.

Now that the formalities are over with, to the match. Karma's only ability is to be able to telepathically take control of someone's mind. Damask is immune to telepathy. So Karma is going to have to rely on her X-Men training which will do her little good in this match as Damask easily forms her psionic blades and skins poor little Karma to death. As they say Karma's a ***** and she probably deserved it.

Damask wins.
 
REBUTTAL": Mesmero vs U.S. Agent

Hellstormer said:
I'm not gonna lie this is a tought match. Mesmero has extremely good mesmorizing powers but Walker's a Capt. America without restraint. He's in peak physical condition, I tihnk enough to know reality from fanatasy and be able to break any kind of spell Mes has one him.
Except he's been able to take control of an entire group of X-Men before, including folks like Wolverine. He doesn't cast illusions, he controls your mind. A reckless guy like John Walker is even more susceptible than that than others. All Mesmero needs is eye-contact and it's done.

If he even gets that far, Walker would have Avenger clearence to records so he would be able to get some information and he wouldn't go in unprepared. He would go in there and immediatly go for the kill and not hold back and I tihnk he would win.
Except John Walker is also the kind of guy that likes a fight and also isn't the brightest guy to have ever lived. If he prepares, he will do so minimally and when it comes to the fight, he's going to focus on trying to give Mesmero a good trashing, and not on avoiding his eyes.

U.S. Agent is done for.

WINNER=MESMERO
 
REBUTTAL: Karma vs Damask

Darthphere said:
Now that the formalities are over with, to the match. Karma's only ability is to be able to telepathically take control of someone's mind. Damask is immune to telepathy. So Karma is going to have to rely on her X-Men training which will do her little good in this match as Damask easily forms her psionic blades and skins poor little Karma to death. As they say Karma's a ***** and she probably deserved it.
As I already outlined above, Karma is both capable of more than that and has the ability to defend herself from those selfsame psionic blades, drastically reducing Damask's offensive capabilities. All Damask has to rely on too are her wits, and when it comes to brain vs brain, I think Karma's will prevail.

WINNER=KARMA
 
I dont know who told Harlekin he could rebute my claims, but either way. Karma, I gotta give it to her, shes one tough cookie, but Damask has a mean streak in her and will go all the way on Karma, same cant be said for her. Damask would be willing to go to any extreme to get the job done, and if that means bringing down the whole goddamn building, she will do that. Karma can spend all day looking for guns and finding codes and stuff, but what good will that do when a whole complex is coming down on you. Damask is willing to get the job done, anyway possible. That gives her the edge. But I sure love me some girl fights.

Damask wins.
 
Why would I not be able to rebut? I put up an opening argument first, and then went about rebutting.

I'll get to your recent bit later.
 

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