Daredevil reboot: official discussion thread

[spiderfan970]

If they're smart they'll analyze the HELL out of The Dark Knight and push all of the things people liked about it even further in that direction with Daredevil. But it's Fox. So we're ****ed.

 

[DoughBoyMontez]

i liked the story and plot of dd but the acting, ben affleck, ruined it, i say reboot dd. can you imagine how great this franchise could be if they do it right

 

[bullets]

it's better at this point to aim for a reboot. the first was fun and i enjoyed it but could of done without the obvious wire work in a few of the scenes. the kingpin was done well and so was the end fight . i didn't like bulleye's look but i did
enjoy his humor. the director's cut is definately worth checking out and i think they should ofkept all of that in .

 

[SatEL]

I dont know if this has been posted as its 2 months old but it seems like they are thinking of a reboot.

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We've got part 2 of IESB's exclusive interview with 20th Century Fox co-chairman Tom Rothman for your viewing pleasure today.


In it, he addresses the possibility of a DAREDEVIL reboot. The film starring Ben Affleck and directed by Mark Steven Johnson was released in 2003 to over a $100 million dollar at the box office but panned by critics.

But the Hulk did it, why not Daredevil? You know what I am talking about...it's time for a REBOOT!

See what Rothman had to say about it below,

IESB: One of the brands that has made Fox a lot of money is Marvel. Recently, there was a reboot of the Hulk, which was alright, but I think it was mainly to get it ready for the Avengers film coming up. But there are two Marvel properties you control amongst others, Daredevil and Elektra. Both films didn't do too well but...reboot maybe?

Tom Rothman: A Daredevil, to use your words, reboot, is something we are thinking very seriously about.

IESB: Soon?

TR: Soon?

IESB: I have to ask.

TR: You've lost a lot a weight now Robert and you are going to live for a long time, this is the movie business, nothing is soon.

IESB: But there aren't any issues rights wise you would have to look into?

TR: No. We've got all the rights. And yes, I think that the thing the Hulk showed although, it did what it did, is that it is possible, that if you really do it right the audience will give you a second chance. That it is possible. And I think that you see that when they did Batman Begins, the first Nolan movie, that you can have made some mistakes along the way or movies that the audience wasn't that crazy about and then given the proper amount of time and the right creative vision behind it, you can, to use your word, reboot.

IESB: And Iron Man proved that a second tier hero done right can make lots of money.

TR: Correct, but these are good properties and I am actually encouraged by both the Hulk experience and particularly by what they did with Batman, after the relative disappointment of what the last Batman was [1990's incarnations].

IESB: Would you do Daredevil as dark as The Dark Knight?

TR: Would it be as dark? I don't know because what it really needs is, it needs a visionary at the level that Chris Nolan was. It needs someone, it needs a director, honestly, who has a genuine vision. What we wouldn't do is just do it for the sake of doing it. Right? What we try to do is to get a creative engine for it, that really had a great vision for it, that's what we would look for.

Abandoned by his mother, Matt Murdock was raised by his father, boxer "Battling Jack" Murdock, in Hell's Kitchen. Realizing that rules were needed to prevent people from behaving badly, young Matt decided to study law; however, when he saved a man from an oncoming truck, it spilled a radioactive cargo that rendered Matt blind while enhancing his remaining senses. Under the harsh tutelage of blind martial arts master Stick, Matt mastered his heightened senses and became a formidable fighter. He also attended Columbia University Law School alongside his best friend, Franklin "Foggy" Nelson; but before Matt earned his Juris Doctorate degree, his father was murdered by agents of the Fixer (Roscoe Sweeny) for refusing to throw a fight. Enraged when the legal system failed to bring the Fixer to justice, Matt donned a costume made from his father's boxing robe and went into action as "Daredevil," savagely beating his father's killers and frightening the Fixer himself to death. Establishing a small New York law firm with Foggy, Matt vowed to serve the law as Matt Murdock and to fight evils beyond the law's reach as Daredevil.

 

[Congo Jack]

I'd rather not see any Daredevil movie from Fox, even if it was a reboot. After all, they had DD murder a guy...talk about missing the point.

Wierd thought, but Frank Miller's leads in THE SPIRIT (Gabriel Macht and Eva Mendes) could have made a damn fine Matt Murdock and Elektra were they not Denny and Sand Saref.

 

[Rich Santoro]

No need to redo the origin story... Move on to the next part of the story, like TIH did (as in, TIH didn't redo the origin... it retconned it, but the movie just moved on).

Cast Michael C. Hall from Dexter... and go with Typhoid Mary (Rhona Mitra) or Tombstone (Vin Diesel) and make it an action / psychological thriller (somewhere in the vein of The Crow). Bring back MCD if Kingpin is to be involved.

Typhoid Mary:

 

[DoughBoyMontez]

TR: Would it be as dark? I don't know because what it really needs is, it needs a visionary at the level that Chris Nolan was. It needs someone, it needs a director, honestly, who has a genuine vision. What we wouldn't do is just do it for the sake of doing it. Right? What we try to do is to get a creative engine for it, that really had a great vision for it, that's what we would look for.

what it and all the other marvel properties that fox owns need is fo him to but out and let that vision come alive, this guy is a idiot, damn i hate him

 

[captaintass]

So, what do you think? Any ideas?

I think they should cast me as Murdock/Daredevil.

 

[[A]]

I think they should cast me as Murdock/Daredevil.

That's confidence.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Does anyone find it funny the requel treatment has led to 3 disappointments/failures for comic movies? SR disappointed at the BO, TIH followed that up with a bit of a disappointing BO, and Punisher: War Zone was an epic fail.

In the words of ESPN's Boomer, 1 is a fluke, 2 is a trend, 3 is evidence. DD may be destined for this same result.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Unless they actually try, than DD becomes evidence behind Batman and Bond.

 

[Brian Braddock]

I think they should cast me as Murdock/Daredevil.

In that case, I think we need a photo and a resume.

 

[Rich Santoro]

Does anyone find it funny the requel treatment has led to 3 disappointments/failures for comic movies? SR disappointed at the BO, TIH followed that up with a bit of a disappointing BO, and Punisher: War Zone was an epic fail.

In the words of ESPN's Boomer, 1 is a fluke, 2 is a trend, 3 is evidence. DD may be destined for this same result.

I don't agree with this assessment. TIH was a success at "rebooting" the franchise. While the BO was not all that great, I would attribute that largely to the 2003 film shedding a negative light on the Character. But after word got around that TIH was a much better movie, people went to the DVDs. In 6 weeks on the shelves, it has made over $76 million, and with the Christmas season, it should push over $100 million. This is not to mention that TIH actually made more at the BO than the 2003 film, both domestically and internationally (if only by a small margin). Imagine if there wasn't such a negative impact from the '03 film. Moreover, the 2003 film openned strong, then dropped... whereas TIH openned moderate, then actually picked-up. Now the product has some strong momentum for future films, and the Avengers.

I also wouldn't use The Punisher to assess the potential for other films to be rebooted successfully. For us, the Punisher was the first real anti-hero. For that, he is special in the comic world... but for mass consumption and to general audiences, he is a upgraded 80s shoot-em up like Cobra, Commando or Raw Deal. IMO It was never going to succeed by today's movie standards... not to mention that there were 2 stinkers that came before it (despite the Janes-o-files out there, the 04 movie was just not that good IMO). So there there is absolutely no momentum for the character.

All that said, with a little time away... and a sincere effort to make the movie special, DD can be successful... as a reboot and beyond.

 

[captaintass]

In that case, I think we need a photo and a resume.

Ok, here's me:

I've been acting (stage) since I was 10. Done things like Arsenic and Old Lace, West Side Story, Dracula...have been a professional singer for most of my adult life and would have done comedy on HBO (Def Comedy Jam) if I'd have been able to stay in L.A. (Alas, I couldn't stay).

 

[Superark]

I'd like to see a DD reboot done right, of course I wouldn't mind a better done sequel either, without Affleck.

There are a few guys I'd like to see as DD. Charlie Hunnam, Daniel Craig, Gerad Butler

What I'd really love is for Mel Gibson to be given a superhero movie to direct. I think Daredevil would be the perfect one for him

 

[Jordacar]

I also wouldn't use The Punisher to assess the potential for other films to be rebooted successfully. For us, the Punisher was the first real anti-hero. For that, he is special in the comic world... but for mass consumption and to general audiences, he is a upgraded 80s shoot-em up like Cobra, Commando or Raw Deal. IMO It was never going to succeed by today's movie standards... not to mention that there were 2 stinkers that came before it (despite the Janes-o-files out there, the 04 movie was just not that good IMO). So there there is absolutely no momentum for the character.

All that said, with a little time away... and a sincere effort to make the movie special, DD can be successful... as a reboot and beyond.

Agreed. Punisher doesn't stand out on film as a character the way he does in the comics. A vigilante hero with lots of guns who kills everything in sight is not a radical premise for an action movie these days.

 

[Jordacar]

I can more easily see DD being rebooted as a TV series than as another movie.

 

[blackblt]

Daredevil was not awful at all, in fact in was pretty good. I don't like Ben aflck, but I thought he did a decent job. Daredevil came out very soon after Spiderman, which penalized the Daredevil movie right off the bat. Marvel did the same thing with Iron Man and The Hulk which I think is a mistake. The movie was also R rated, which I thought was cool, but probably hurt it. I would say at this point a total redo is necessary to revitalize the character. Jason Statham has been talked about, but I'm not sure he's the guy....

 

[Chewy]

Daredevil came out a year after Spider-Man, what it came out within months of was X-Men 2 and AngHulk. And it was rated PG-13, not R.

 

[blackblt]

Daredevil came out a year after Spider-Man, what it came out within months of was X-Men 2 and AngHulk. And it was rated PG-13, not R.

You're right. I was thinking of the R rated directors cut.

 

[random_havoc]

Daredevil was not awful at all, in fact in was pretty good. I don't like Ben aflck, but I thought he did a decent job. Daredevil came out very soon after Spiderman, which penalized the Daredevil movie right off the bat. Marvel did the same thing with Iron Man and The Hulk which I think is a mistake. The movie was also R rated, which I thought was cool, but probably hurt it. I would say at this point a total redo is necessary to revitalize the character. Jason Statham has been talked about, but I'm not sure he's the guy....

You offically have no taste. Having DD kill a guy (subway scene) is essentially like crapping on the source material and original character. The only good scene was the fight in the bar.

 

[blackblt]

You offically have no taste.

Wow, dude lighten up. Get laid or something. It's just an opinion. I haven't read every back issue of Daredevil, I just thought the movie was decent. Oh yeah, you misspelled officially Einstein.

 

[danger]

Definitely restart it with a whole different tone and vision. much like nolan did with batman. Don't try to make a movie to fit into it's genre. Make it a legit movie, not just a "superhero movie". substance first and then add the fantasy/comic aspect to it. In batman begins we dont even see a costume until an hour into the movie. And it didnt seem like i was watching an origin to a superhero, but rather a building and development of a character. the reason why they do what they do, not how they happened to become what they are. Start the movie with murdock already as daredevil and a lawyer, and just have flashbacks of his "origin" like in batman begins, only when an occasion arises that deems it necessary to know his background, for example as his blindness is brought up, flashback to a scene of how he became blind, and so on. maybe, just maybe add stick into one of the flashbacks. and also like batman begins, dont even show him in his costume until half way into the movie, when matt murdock is already developed as a person. also the world he lives in, mainly his battle of justice with the city's crime, mainly kingpin. That's all i got so far, that was just off the top of my head.

 

[danger]

MM/DD:

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[Mario_Galaxy]

They need to adapt Bendis' run. Daredevil could make a great series of films.