DC Relaunching Everything? - Part 6

[Anubis]

You should have.

You missed a lot of awesome.

 

[Mystirious]

You should have.

You missed a lot of awesome.

A lot of

Especially some of the Authority stories. Jenny Sparks, Apollo and Midnighter were fab

I didn't bother with WildStorm.

How come hippie hunter why aren't you a fan

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Majestic, Stormwatch: Post-Human Division, Welcome to Tranquility, and Wildcats vol. 2 and v3.0 were all awesome. Even some of the original Wildcats series was pretty solid, particularly the parts Alan Moore wrote.

 

[hippie_hunter]

How come hippie hunter why aren't you a fan

Was just never interested in WildStorm. I'm intrigued by their integration into the DCU proper, but as a separate entity, not so much.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Ya like I'm loving Stormwatch, but I don't wanna go back and read the WS Stormwatch stuff. I'm just interested in them being a part of the DCU now.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Ya like I'm loving Stormwatch, but I don't wanna go back and read the WS Stormwatch stuff. I'm just interested in them being a part of the DCU now.

From what I gathered, the DC Stormwatch is nothing at all like the WildStorm Stormwatch. It's kinda pointless to have Stormwatch like it's original incarnation when you have the Justice League International. This version of Stormwatch also seems to have a bit more in common with the Authority as well over the original incarnation of Stormwatch.

So apparently with the version of Stormwatch I'm liking being nothing at all like the original incarnation of Stormwatch, it really doesn't have me really wanting to go back and check out the WildStorm Stormwatch material the way reading Animal Man has made me want to go back and check out Grant Morrison's Animal Man.

 

[Anubis]

Was just never interested in WildStorm. I'm intrigued by their integration into the DCU proper, but as a separate entity, not so much.

That makes no sense.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah, I don't really get that at all.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

It would've been really great if they'd brought Hadrian and Majestic over in a comic so people might get interested in their older stuff as well. Instead they got Grifter, who's cool but currently sucks because he's some fresh-faced con artist instead of a badass to end all badasses, and Voodoo, who's... Voodoo. I don't know what the hell they were thinking there.

 

[Mystirious]

Majestic, Stormwatch: Post-Human Division, Welcome to Tranquility, and Wildcats vol. 2 and v3.0 were all awesome. Even some of the original Wildcats series was pretty solid, particularly the parts Alan Moore wrote.

True 'dat

There were some great comic books from Wildstorm. I'm excited to see the characters popping up in the dcu but i do still really miss the Wildstorm universe

Was just never interested in WildStorm. I'm intrigued by their integration into the DCU proper, but as a separate entity, not so much.

Fair enough

Though i would say that there's a lot of neat stories in the old Wildstorm material worth checking out

 

[trustyside-kick]

That makes no sense.

Yeah, I don't really get that at all.

What is wrong with what hippie said? The new series has made him like Stormwatch, but he doesn't feel the need/desire to read the previous series. It's interested in them because they are part of the DCU now. I'm in agreeance with him with that title and other titles that are new to me that were originally from Vertigo and WildStorm.

For example: I've fallen in love with Animal Man in the New 52, but I feel like they have told me enough about the character in 2 issues that I can understand and enjoy. People can tell me "check out the amazing older series" but as of right now I don't want to put my time into that because I have so many things I'm still in the process of catching up on. So that's part of why I don't plan to check out the previous runs. So if I do check out Animal Man from years ago, it wouldn't be til a good while from now.

Who knows? Maybe hippie has the same or similar reason. Or maybe he flat out doesn't care to. I'm halfway between the two. Could also be monetary stuff.

 

[Mystirious]

Have you not read the Morrison Animal Man stories sidekick

They're really good even better than the current excellent ongoing series. And the three trades aren't too expensive individually either

 

[moraldeficiency]

With the price of current comics nothing is cheap unless your budget is limitless, aka you do not desire intimacy with someone other than your hand, or you're willing to drop new series to read older things that you can check out at any time and not miss or need to know anything about in order to enjoy current stories.

 

[Mystirious]

My wallet hates me for the amount I am spending on comic books right now

 

[trustyside-kick]

My wallet cries at night. Talks about how I don't care about it anymore. It says that I'm abusing it with my spending but I tell it "shut up b*tch and take it!".

My wallet and I aren't on speaking terms right now.

 

[Mystirious]

Soon to be a movie on Lifetime

 

[Tron Bonne]

What is wrong with what hippie said? The new series has made him like Stormwatch, but he doesn't feel the need/desire to read the previous series. It's interested in them because they are part of the DCU now. I'm in agreeance with him with that title and other titles that are new to me that were originally from Vertigo and WildStorm.

For example: I've fallen in love with Animal Man in the New 52, but I feel like they have told me enough about the character in 2 issues that I can understand and enjoy. People can tell me "check out the amazing older series" but as of right now I don't want to put my time into that because I have so many things I'm still in the process of catching up on. So that's part of why I don't plan to check out the previous runs. So if I do check out Animal Man from years ago, it wouldn't be til a good while from now.

Who knows? Maybe hippie has the same or similar reason. Or maybe he flat out doesn't care to. I'm halfway between the two. Could also be monetary stuff.

I wasn't really talking about the going back to read the old stuff (maybe 'Nubs was, I dunno), but more the idea of saying you have no interest in characters on their own, but then apparently have interest seeing them being put into the main DCU. That's like saying you have no interest in Superman, but are looking forward to a JLA run specifically because of Superman being there. If you have no interest in something to begin with, why do you magically have interest in it just because it's being shoehorned into something else? Yeah, I honestly just don't get that.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Oh well if you are going to go by that logic than I still can understand what you fail to. I don't care to read Superman in his own title, but I like his appearances in JL. I don't care to read something dedicated to him solely, but I like the part he plays in JL.

So to translate that to the Stormwatch people it still makes sense. They are part of a universe that I like to see them interact in. I don't care to see them act in their own universe because Wildstorm was different tone than the DC universe. Try to pull the stunts I hear that Wildstorm characters pulled left and right in their separate 'verse in the DCU and you will have to answer to someone else about it (likely another hero).

 

[Tron Bonne]

Well, okay, I guess. I still don't really get it, because if I have no interest in a character(s) in one context, I don't really have any interest in them within any context, unless it's a big exception (like an Elseworlds) or some kind of game-changing portrayal. I guess you could say this a big Elseworlds for Stormwatch/WS in some ways, but I was under the impression that the idea was to translate them there as directly as possible.

But you know, whatevas, to each his own and all that.

 

[Anubis]

Oh well if you are going to go by that logic than I still can understand what you fail to. I don't care to read Superman in his own title, but I like his appearances in JL. I don't care to read something dedicated to him solely, but I like the part he plays in JL.

The thing that makes that whole thing fall apart is that you never read anything with the Wildstorm people in it, so, why should you give a s**t that they're suddenly in the DCU. Grifter, Voodoo, and pretty much everybody on Stormwatch are the characters they were in name only. How would you feel if Aquaman were sent to the Hellboy Universe and was suddenly a gambling addict in Atlantic City that can talk to water?

So to translate that to the Stormwatch people it still makes sense. They are part of a universe that I like to see them interact in. I don't care to see them act in their own universe because Wildstorm was different tone than the DC universe. Try to pull the stunts I hear that Wildstorm characters pulled left and right in their separate 'verse in the DCU and you will have to answer to someone else about it (likely another hero).

That's the main reason why they should never have been folded into the DCU proper. By doing so, it devalues the characters. Basically, in order to fit, they have to become somebody else entirely. More than likely cannon fodder in the next big event.

 

[trustyside-kick]

The thing that makes that whole thing fall apart is that you never read anything with the Wildstorm people in it, so, why should you give a s**t that they're suddenly in the DCU. Grifter, Voodoo, and pretty much everybody on Stormwatch are the characters they were in name only.

Why would I care they are in the DCU? For any reason that ANYONE ever is intrigued in something that they do not know: the basic first and shallow impressions and hoping that it leads to you being less shallow about it. For a comic character, a basic rundown of the origins, the costume, the name, and abilities is the starting shallow point.

 

[Anubis]

Which is what you mofos shoulda did in the first place and read it when they were in their own universe being awesome.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Only recently have I been crawling out of my "protective all-things-DCU" shell.

 

[yenaled]

Go buy the older stuff then get the newer stuff when you know it's worth reading.

The amount of money you'll save on not buying mediocre comics will allow you to get the past classics.

(not totally sure I believe this).

 

[hippie_hunter]

What is wrong with what hippie said? The new series has made him like Stormwatch, but he doesn't feel the need/desire to read the previous series. It's interested in them because they are part of the DCU now. I'm in agreeance with him with that title and other titles that are new to me that were originally from Vertigo and WildStorm.

For example: I've fallen in love with Animal Man in the New 52, but I feel like they have told me enough about the character in 2 issues that I can understand and enjoy. People can tell me "check out the amazing older series" but as of right now I don't want to put my time into that because I have so many things I'm still in the process of catching up on. So that's part of why I don't plan to check out the previous runs. So if I do check out Animal Man from years ago, it wouldn't be til a good while from now.

Who knows? Maybe hippie has the same or similar reason. Or maybe he flat out doesn't care to. I'm halfway between the two. Could also be monetary stuff.

Exactly.