Dexter - Part 5

[Ramsay Snow]

I just want everyone to find out that Dexter is the BHB.

 

[Teelie]

Dexter is the way he is because of what happened to him as a child. He started off the way most serial killers do: Killing neighborhood animals before moving up to larger prey. Harry knew this was going to happen and knew it was inevitable so he and Vogel created this Code.

Right or wrong of them to do, it at least put him on the less wrong side of murdering people.

There are problems with it obviously and it's not the best way to have handled it but there wouldn't be a Dexter otherwise.

And at the end of the series I would like to see someone figure it out in the department and live (besides Deb) to tell the others even if Dexter gets away.

 

[DyeLorean]

Where's Zach's body? How did Dexter take the body out of his house without anybody noticing? How did Saxon get in the apartment without nobody noticing? How is Dexter able to keep throwing bodies (full bodies, not even chopped anymore) in the ocean, and nobody sees anything at the docks (and they have cameras)?
How come nobody notices Hannah, or how people around Dexter keep dying or disappearing? How is it that Vogel and Dexter go to Zach's studio after his death, and they're not worried that someone could see them?
The amount of stuff that could -and should- go wrong, is just completely ignored. That's one of the main problems I have with the season.

 

[Compi716]

Where's Zach's body? How did Dexter take the body out of his house without anybody noticing? How did Saxon get in the apartment without nobody noticing? How is Dexter able to keep throwing bodies (full bodies, not even chopped anymore) in the ocean, and nobody sees anything at the docks (and they have cameras)?
How come nobody notices Hannah, or how people around Dexter keep dying or disappearing? How is it that Vogel and Dexter go to Zach's studio after his death, and they're not worried that someone could see them?
The amount of stuff that could -and should- go wrong, is just completely ignored. That's one of the main problems I have with the season.

I remember how in earlier seasons everything was about "not getting caught." That philosophy is now absent from the show.

 

[The Demon's Head]

You know who could proudly say "I told you so" about this season being terrible? Stephen King. And yes, before you get started, I know UTD isn't nearly as good as the book, but the guy called it before any of us. He mentioned Dexter in an interview, and said the show has been on for far too long.

Guy knows what he's talking about.

 

[georgec]

If there's anybody who knows how to end a story, it's Stephen King.

(He's right, the show was on for 3 seasons too many IMO.)

 

[DyeLorean]

I remember how in earlier seasons everything was about "not getting caught." That philosophy is now absent from the show.

Right, right.
Also, what happened to the van after Deb crashed it into that lake? There was no police investigation, no nothing?

 

[Teelie]

In Miami it probably happens more often than you think.

 

[Deserana]

How would people like it if in the last scene Miami Metro discovered Dexter is the BHB in the finale but by that time Dexter is long gone with Hannah.

For some reason in the back of my mind that is how the show will finish.

 

[Teelie]

I could live with that. It would redeem them at least somewhat to realize for all these years a literaly serial killer was working with them in their own office and not one of them managed to figure it out and live except his sister who went off the deep end over it.

Only two of them had the skill and determination to dig and both ended up dead after they accused Dexter of being a killer. He might as well have held a bloody knife in his hand as he said "I am not the Bay Harbor Butcher!"

 

[Tron Bonne]

I could live with that. It would redeem them at least somewhat to realize for all these years a literaly serial killer was working with them in their own office and not one of them managed to figure it out and live except his sister who went off the deep end over it.

Only two of them had the skill and determination to dig and both ended up dead after they accused Dexter of being a killer. He might as well have held a bloody knife in his hand as he said "I am not the Bay Harbor Butcher!"

Did Doakes ever actually accuse Dexter of being the BHB publicly? I know he found out, but I thought Dexter got to him before Doakes ever let anything be known. Besides that, I only recall Doakes just disliking Dexter for some undefinable reason, which many dismissed as Doakes just being a dick. The stuff with Maria was different, too. She was ridiculed for thinking he was the BHB, and her death made sense when she actively got involved with a known killer.

There are a lot of plot holes and inconsistencies in Dexter's overall narrative, but I honestly don't think this is one of them. Dex as the BHB was well covered.

 

[DyeLorean]

Yeah, I don't really have a problem with the way they handled the whole BHB. Having said that, the plot from that season could've worked a lot better as the final one, with the discovery of all Dexter's victims.

 

[Teelie]

I can't remember if Doakes did make any noise over Dexter's link or not but he did die after having fought with Dexter a lot. LaGuerta was ridiculed even though she was right and no one wanted to accept it.

There's also his brother the serial killer that everyone found out about (Dexter included) that didn't raise any alarms in light of all these mysterious disappearances and deaths surrounding Dexter. His wife was murdered by the Trinity killer, his ex-girlfriend Lila, then there's Lumen although I can't remember if any of them met her and so on.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I can't remember if Doakes did make any noise over Dexter's link or not but he did die after having fought with Dexter a lot. LaGuerta was ridiculed even though she was right and no one wanted to accept it.

Yeah, but Doakes wasn't exactly a nice person to others either. He was just particularly sharp to Dexter. Any bells that was raised was raised because of disbelief that he was the BHB. And we the audience knew LaGuerta was right, but no one in the station knew that. It was widely assumed that Doakes was the BHB, and trying to go after some perceived as straight-edged as Dexter was seen as crazy more than anything. And, again, she got involved with a known serial killer with Estrada, what happened to her probably seemed natural.

There's also his brother the serial killer that everyone found out about (Dexter included) that didn't raise any alarms in light of all these mysterious disappearances and deaths surrounding Dexter. His wife was murdered by the Trinity killer, his ex-girlfriend Lila, then there's Lumen although I can't remember if any of them met her and so on.

Why would the fact that his brother, that he or no one at Metro Station had met at this point (that they knew of, anyway), raise any alarms to Dexter being a killer? That doesn't make a lot of sense. The Trinity thing yeah, I could see, but since it fit so well into his pattern, it's easily written off as an unfortunate coincidence. What about Lila? I don't recall anything in relation to being a killer becoming public. And no, no one met Lumen at Miami Metro that I recall.

 

[The Demon's Head]

God, Lila. Reminds me of how good Season 2 was.

 

[georgec]

Miss "Pardon My T**s". LOL, season 2 was fantastic.

 

[Teelie]

Yeah, but Doakes wasn't exactly a nice person to others either. He was just particularly sharp to Dexter. Any bells that was raised was raised because of disbelief that he was the BHB. And we the audience knew LaGuerta was right, but no one in the station knew that. It was widely assumed that Doakes was the BHB, and trying to go after some perceived as straight-edged as Dexter was seen as crazy more than anything. And, again, she got involved with a known serial killer with Estrada, what happened to her probably seemed natural.

Why would the fact that his brother, that he or no one at Metro Station had met at this point (that they knew of, anyway), raise any alarms to Dexter being a killer? That doesn't make a lot of sense. The Trinity thing yeah, I could see, but since it fit so well into his pattern, it's easily written off as an unfortunate coincidence. What about Lila? I don't recall anything in relation to being a killer becoming public. And no, no one met Lumen at Miami Metro that I recall.

Not a single piece of this makes him suspicious but when you put them all together you'd think someone would start to wonder about all these strange coincedences of people dying, disappearing or being homicidal. He's a magnet for it. LaGuerta started to get suspicious after she found that bit of evidence and all she had to do was some digging to find all those plainly obvious clues that make the picture clear... then Deb goes and shoots her.

 

[Paradox1]

Where's Zach's body? How did Dexter take the body out of his house without anybody noticing? How did Saxon get in the apartment without nobody noticing? How is Dexter able to keep throwing bodies (full bodies, not even chopped anymore) in the ocean, and nobody sees anything at the docks (and they have cameras)?
How come nobody notices Hannah, or how people around Dexter keep dying or disappearing? How is it that Vogel and Dexter go to Zach's studio after his death, and they're not worried that someone could see them?
The amount of stuff that could -and should- go wrong, is just completely ignored. That's one of the main problems I have with the season.

Do they need to show us every time how Dexter avoids people, cameras and whatever else all the time? When they've shown us more than once how Dexter does his thing. There are holes in the story but what you have mentioned are not some of them. I can answer all of them right now

Where's Zach's body? Dumped in the ocean

How did Dexter take the body out of his house without anybody noticing? Most normal people go to bed after 12 so I assume in the dead of night Dexter sneaked out with the body.

How did Saxon get in the apartment without nobody noticing?
Saxon wasn't a stranger to the building so him getting into the building wouldn't have raised any suspicion. The guy is a serial killer its not out of the realm of disbelief to believe he broken into quite a few homes.

How is Dexter able to keep throwing bodies (full bodies, not even chopped anymore) in the ocean, and nobody sees anything at the docks (and they have cameras)? Dexter changed docks many season ago to a dock without cameras when Lundy was on the trail of the BHB

How come nobody notices Hannah, or how people around Dexter keep dying or disappearing? The only people close to Dexter who are dead or missing are Doakes widely accepted as the BHB and his wife killed by the Trinity Killer.The crazy ex who actually killed Doakes got away to England where Dexter found her. Everyone else he's been seen interacting with has been exclusively them two alone. People are wanted all the time but somehow they keep avoiding detection. Even someone as eye catching as Hannah in Miami is going to blend in really well. There are a lot of beautiful women in Miami take my word for it.

How is it that Vogel and Dexter go to Zach's studio after his death, and they're not worried that someone could see them? Dexter works for Miami Metro while Vogel was hired by Zach's family as a therapist who is missing. Anybody seeing them doesn't matter they have solid reason to be there.

 

[Ghostvirus]

My god. All the spoilers are slowly coming true. It like watching a car crash you were hoping wouldn't happen.

 

[Reek]

No Dexter or Ray Donovan this sunday... at least Breaking Bad and the Franco roast will be on

 

[TheCorpulent1]

My god. All the spoilers are slowly coming true. It like watching a car crash you were hoping wouldn't happen.

We're like 4 episodes away from the end of the series and I still have no idea where the hell this season is going. It does not feel like it's building to an ending at all.

 

[Deserana]

We're like 4 episodes away from the end of the series and I still have no idea where the hell this season is going. It does not feel like it's building to an ending at all.

It's worse than that.

It's three episodes.

Seriously though, if this was just another season I wouldn't be that bothered. I'd just put it down as a naff season and hope for better next year. But it isn't, it's the final season. It should better IMO.

I've also given thought to the "well the chips have just been laid down" and "the pieces are gradually being put in place, be patient!" excuses. And I've come to the conclusion that those excuses don't hold up. Season 7 and Season 8 were renewed at the same time and due to crew interviews we know that very early on they knew it was ending and that Season 7 and 8 were essentially gonna be a two-season arc. So surely all the ******* pieces should have been laid out in Season 7! Set up for 8! Why would the writers spend soooo much time (basically 8 hours) setting up a finale which has not much to do with anything outside of this season.

They could have put Hannah on the run instead of jail (therefore implying she'll definitely be back rather than randomly popping up), killed LaGuerta and Batista picks up where she left off and launches a whole new BHB investigation and a new big bad is brought in just to just mess with Dexter. Deb can also just deteriorate for longer after what she done. Bam, the show could have kicked right off from episode 1. Dexter's whole life is spiraling out of control and everything close to him is now against him. Perfect material for an end.

But instead we get plots that suddenly begin and just as quick are dropped, long moments of nothing, the brain surgeon who isn't the brain surgeon (pointless), a big bad who comes outta nowhere, pointless Masuka/Quinn/Cassie subplots, Hannah and Dexter being luvveyduvvey and Miami Metro not looking into anything whatsoever. Seriously, Miami Metro didn't even need to be in this season.

 

[antsman41]

We're like 4 episodes away from the end of the series and I still have no idea where the hell this season is going. It does not feel like it's building to an ending at all.

Uh...

It's building to Dexter living happily ever after with Hannah in Argentina.

Harrison will be adopted by Quinn/Deb. Masuka will marry his 'daughter' with the tiny tatas, Batista will become the Mayor of Miami, and Angie Miller will reveal she is Doake's long lost sister but forgot to take revenge on Dexter.

Oh, also... Vogel has been sleeping with her 'son' this whole time.

Check this article out; http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2013/aug/27/dexter-series-finale, pretty good...

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Wow. I don't even want to bother watching the rest of this nonsense at this point.

 

[TheBat812]

How is not knowing where it's going to go a bad thing? I definitely sense a few directions it's built up to, but not knowing exactly where it's going is a good thing, imo.