First Avenger Directed by Joe Johnston

[Project862006]

i dont pay mind to critics the critics hated watchmen and it was my fav film of 2009

 

[Aesop Rocks]

screenrant gave it 4/5

 

[Aesop Rocks]

Latinoreview gave it a B-

I don't think I've seen a bad review for it yet...

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

rotten tomatoes: 7 fresh 18 rotten, overall:28%

 

[Aesop Rocks]

RT sucks.

 

[Deaths Head II]

All it does is tally pass/fail votes of critics. That's all it's meant to be used for.

Why do people act like Rottentomatoes itself is trying to make some statement about these films? It's not like a 50% fresh is the site admin saying this movie is 2.5 out 5 stars.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Watchmen is not that good. The GN is, but the movie is not.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

uh-oh

 

[weezerspider]

I really enjoyed Wolfman. It wasn't great, but it kept me entertain. The writing was fairly strong, but I really don't think Johnson had anything to do with that. The pacing of the film seemed a little off. Other than that, it was pretty good. I really don't think you can see this and judge what Cap will be like though. While there is a good bit of action in this film, its more of a thriller/horror type thing.

 

[Webhead2006]

yea every film is a different beast for a director.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I think Johnston was mainly picked for Cap because he knows how to do a period piece. His films may be hit or miss but if he's given a good script he can do a good job. October Sky really nailed the 50s and it had a very good story. Johnston will probably be able to nail the 40s and if the Chronicles of Narnia guys came up with something good the film should come together.

 

[weezerspider]

I think Johnston was mainly picked for Cap because he knows how to do a period piece. His films may be hit or miss but if he's given a good script he can do a good job. October Sky really nailed the 50s and it had a very good story. Johnston will probably be able to nail the 40s and if the Chronicles of Narnia guys came up with something good the film should come together.

Thats a good point. Oh and Wolfman really felt like 1891. He did a great job in that department.

 

[KangConquers]

Watchmen is not that good. The GN is, but the movie is not.

Exactly.

 

[Project862006]

Keep in mind guys JJ was not even the original director for Wolfman he was brought in as a late replacement before filming .Also his first time really doing a horror thriller Cap is his baby from the beginning process.

 

[Webhead2006]

yea and i think it will do well. friday opening i read on boxofficemojo it got about 10mill along with that percy movie getting around the same too. So i bet both of those films will end up around 25-30million for the weekend.

 

[terry78]

If you have any doubts, just watch The Rocketeer. That will shut up any naysayers.

 

[rogue trooper]

Watchmen is not that good. The GN is, but the movie is not.

It was never going to be as good as the graphic novel, no matter who was behind the camera. Considering that, it is still an excellent film.

Anyway, I just saw The Wolfman today, and I think that for a "done-to-death" genre/concept, Johnston did an outstanding job. Just as Sam Raimi proved he could handle Spider-Man after doing The Gift and Darkman, Johnston has proven with The Wolfman and The Rocketeer that he has the right stuff for a Cap film.

 

[FaT_tONle]

This probably comes across as a completely unfair knock on Johnston, but there those directors that strive to get themselves to a level of a Spielberg or Cameron but fail miserably. Johnston's one of em. Mastow is another one. Obviously Johnston has had some decent films, but never has he had a great film. And when he's bad, he's bad. At some point you gotto call it like it is with some guys. It's like the coach that never won the big game. He has failed to come through so many times. So while Cap may be good, don't expect much more than that. That's how I am going into it.

 

[rashad]

He directed Jurassic Park 3 too right?

 

[Spider-Fan]

It was never going to be as good as the graphic novel, no matter who was behind the camera. Considering that, it is still an excellent film.

Anyway, I just saw The Wolfman today, and I think that for a "done-to-death" genre/concept, Johnston did an outstanding job. Just as Sam Raimi proved he could handle Spider-Man after doing The Gift and Darkman, Johnston has proven with The Wolfman and The Rocketeer that he has the right stuff for a Cap film.

I don't want to make this a Watchmen debate thread, but Watchmen is both a bad adaptation of the GN, and a decent at best film. It is not the great film people make it out to be. The film has PLENTY of issues as a film, outside GN differences.

 

[rogue trooper]

This probably comes across as a completely unfair knock on Johnston, but there those directors that strive to get themselves to a level of a Spielberg or Cameron but fail miserably. Johnston's one of em. Mastow is another one. Obviously Johnston has had some decent films, but never has he had a great film. And when he's bad, he's bad. At some point you gotto call it like it is with some guys. It's like the coach that never won the big game. He has failed to come through so many times. So while Cap may be good, don't expect much more than that. That's how I am going into it.

Fair enough. Let's keep in mind, though, that Sam Raimi had not done any "great" films either before Spider-Man. "The Gift" and "A Simple Plan" were decent films(like Johnston's October Sky and The Rocketeer). The Evil Dead films and Darkman were B-movie cult-level fanbased films, For Love of The Game and Drag Me To Hell were mediocre(just like Hidalgo and Jumanji), and The Quick And The Dead and Crime Wave were just bad(like Jurassic Park 3). Just sayin'.

 

[rogue trooper]

I don't want to make this a Watchmen debate thread, but Watchmen is both a bad adaptation of the GN, and a decent at best film. It is not the great film people make it out to be. The film has PLENTY of issues as a film, outside GN differences.

Well, we can very well debate this on the DC Films forums.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Fair enough. Let's keep in mind, though, that Sam Raimi had not done any "great" films either before Spider-Man. "The Gift" and "A Simple Plan" were decent films(like Johnston's October Sky and The Rocketeer). The Evil Dead films and Darkman were B-movie cult-level fanbased films, For Love of The Game and Drag Me To Hell were mediocre(just like Hidalgo and Jumanji), and The Quick And The Dead and Crime Wave were just bad(like Jurassic Park 3). Just sayin'.

I wouldn't call the Spiderman films great. SM2 very good??? Yes. Batman Begins, very good? Yes. TDK??? GREAT. But let's keep in mind, Spiderman is not exactly the most difficult character to adapt. The hardest thing is probably bringing the characters alive in living color on the big screen. Captain America will probably be the most difficult Marvel adaptation to date. It's pretty obvious that they are straying away from that gun-ho all-American character for someone with more complexity and depth. And you have to incorporate the Marvel universe in a period piece while minimizing the cheeze factor. And then there is always bringing an outdated character in terms of persona to a 21st century audience that's been inundated with superhero films. Tall order to say the least.

 

[ultimatefan]

Just saw The Wolfman. Not the great movie it could have been, but still an entertaining, no-nonsense horror film, especially if you´re a Universal horror fan like me. It looks to have a strong opening, which bodes well for Johnston helming CA.

 

[ultimatefan]

I wouldn't call the Spiderman films great. SM2 very good??? Yes. Batman Begins, very good? Yes. TDK??? GREAT. But let's keep in mind, Spiderman is not exactly the most difficult character to adapt. The hardest thing is probably bringing the characters alive in living color on the big screen. Captain America will probably be the most difficult Marvel adaptation to date. It's pretty obvious that they are straying away from that gun-ho all-American character for someone with more complexity and depth. And you have to incorporate the Marvel universe in a period piece while minimizing the cheeze factor. And then there is always bringing an outdated character in terms of persona to a 21st century audience that's been inundated with superhero films. Tall order to say the least.

Johnston´s biggest challenge IMO will be to convince audiences there´s more to Cap than American patriotism propaganda, something the overseas audiences have more and more of a problem with in this day and age.