🌎 Discussion: Civil Rights, Affirmative Action, Critical Race Theory, Systemic Inequality, and Racism - Part 4

[kvz5]

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[Teelie]

Hey, look! Voter fraud is real! Too bad it's another Republican. Democrats are too crafty with their voter fraud apparently.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Donald Trump: Drew Brees should not have apologized, we all should stand - ProFootballTalk

Trump back to bashing Kaepernick and kneeling protesters for obvious reasons.

BBC - Trump: NFL kneelers 'maybe shouldn't be in country' (2018)
NBC Sports - Trump to anthem protesters: 'Get that son of a b---- off the field' (2017)

 

[Prettyricky]

I just feel like Drew shouldn't have apologized for how he felt when it comes to the flag and the anthem. He should have just said how he felt on the anthem but also say he %100 agrees police need to held accountable and better trained to protect citizens and have better/ stronger relationships with minorities in this country.

 

[samsnee]

Is that why Cheetoh molests the flag? That’s his way of showing respect?

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

 

[RockSP]

"Cloth should be revered. People? F**k 'em" --Cheeto 45

 

[Schlosser85]

Like he shows so much respect for the flag when he humps it onstage?

 

[moviedoors]

**** flags and **** anthems.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

CNBC - NFL condemns racism, admits 'we were wrong' not to listen to NFL player protests

 

[B]

 

[kvz5]

 

[godisawesome]

The historical revisionism of the Confederacy is the real kicker. Almost everyone probably has at least a few ancestors that ended up on the wrong side of history but most normal folks can accept it. The whole trying to defend being on the wrong side of history and glorifying what that ancestor did is a problem.


Many of the Confederate monuments were also a direct message of 'know your place' to minorities and were erected decades or even a century after the Civil War.

One of the monuments at Gettysburg stuck with me in regards to the revisionism aspect, but in a way that somehow cut through the BS more than the expected ones. Oddly, it was one of a particular Confederate General.

I mean, I always regarded Confederate monuments as something akin to supervillain monuments; my dad, a history teacher, raised me to have a nuanced view that amounted to understanding why these guys were capable of bravery, ingenuity, determination, and loyalty... but skewed in a way where those were “evil virtues” that required accepting a lie about what slavery was and following it so thoroughly that great atrocities, inhumanities, and selfishness “had” to be allowed and condolence on their view lest the lie be revealed and their sins be laid bare.

So I was always uncomfortable around those monuments, and always felt that they represented a great evil more than anything else...

...But it was the small, out of the way, pedestal-less and somewhat surprisingly second-rate statue of CSA General Longstreet at Gettysburg that really hit me regarding just how much of the post-war revisionism was filled with intellectual cowardice, not just denial or insidious propaganda - that they really were afraid of the truth, not just trying to hide it.

Longstreet was Lee’s second in command, and basically the second most prolific field general after Stonewall Jackson. Lee called him his “Old War Horse.” He was the commander above Pickett of the famous last charge at Gettysburg, the one that the Lost Cause sought to romanticize as a “High Water Mark” instead of as arguably Lee’s biggest single blunder and a hopeless tactical failure on every level. He’s the perfect candidate for the kind of general the Lost Cause would lionize and worship as a near Demi-god...

...Except after the war, he became a Unionist Republican allied with Reconstruction (he was Grant’s best friend and had been his best man at his wedding), opposing the early white supremacy movements and terrorist organizations.

And because this guy, a Confederate among Confederates, a guy you just know was integral in not just Lee’s military victories but also in this kidnappings and enslavings that Lee’s army perpetrated as the went North, dared to act in a way that admitted the South’s defeat after the war and their cause being wrong, they tried to bury him as a scapegoat.

For some reason, it just highlighted how scared and b****y the Lost Cause was about its content.

It’s a “history” for snowflakes and crybabies; some of them are monstrous fascists... but that just remind you that fascists can and often just flat out are snowflakes and crybabies. It’s part and parcel of the whole thing. Their not just the kid who cheats at the game, or the criminal. They’re the guys who whine and cry when they get found out.

 

[chamber-music]

**** flags and **** anthems.

I can never understand why people care about an inanimate object such as a flag over actual human lives.

Some folks get genuinely triggered when they see some knock off flag get burned by protesters in the middle east for example. I would rather they burn a million flags than take a single life.

People worship the iconography more than what it is supposed to represent

 

[Mani-Man]

I can never understand why people care about an inanimate object such as a flag over actual human lives.

Some folks get genuinely triggered when they see some knock off flag get burned by protesters in the middle east for example. I would rather they burn a million flags than take a single life.

People worship the iconography more than what it is supposed to represent

Yeah, never got that myself.
Its so weird seeing people more worried about a piece of cloth than fellow citizens.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

The Daily Beast - ‘Don't Forget the White Women!’: Members Say Racism Ran Rampant at NOW

Texas Tribune - Conspiracy theories and racist memes: How a dozen Texas GOP county chairs caused turmoil within the party

Texas Tribune - In false Facebook posts, Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller accused George Soros of paying protesters to “destroy” the country

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Yeah that implies that it wasn’t that way from back to the 19th century. Like it’s some new phenomenon when it isn’t.

 

[Erzengel]

I got a box full of some vintage toys. Masters of the Universe, GI Joe, I think there's a General Lee in there. I guess Bo and Luke are going to have to ride in the Thundertank or the Millenium Falcon.

 

[Sithborg]

 

[samsnee]

I’m guessing the people saying that kneeling at football games disrespects the American flag but also have no problem with flying a confederate flag is just one circle.

 

[Dr.]

Bird watching seems like a pretty harmless and innocuous activity. But apparently, it can be hazardous for bird watchers who are black.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/scie...um=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most

One fellow even created a sign to keep folks at ease:

Amazing.

 

[kvz5]

 

[Pink Ranger]

I got a box full of some vintage toys. Masters of the Universe, GI Joe, I think there's a General Lee in there. I guess Bo and Luke are going to have to ride in the Thundertank or the Millenium Falcon.

Put a big Autobot sticker over the flag. He can be one of those seldom-seen characters that were in the cartoon but only sold as toys in Japan.