🌎 Discussion: Civil Rights, Affirmative Action, Critical Race Theory, Systemic Inequality, and Racism - Part 4

[Donner]

Another take.

 

[Pink Ranger]

If Covington Catholic High School belonged to a different Abrahamic religion, we'd call this "radicalization." But they aren't, so we don't.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Much respect to the native American elder, but brother, take a page from the Asian/Latino handbook, when you see white people and black people screaming at each other, just GTFO of there.

"My name is Paul, and this ****'s between ya'll."

 

[AResistor]

 

[Pink Ranger]

"My name is Paul, and this ****'s between ya'll."

I say this all the time at work whenever the straight people have that "this is what men do," and "this is what women do," argument.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I think the worst parts of the whole thing are adults jumping to conclusions on the whole incident and then threatening physical violence and/or doxxing on teenagers over social media, including some pretty big name celebrities and journalists. I'm glad some are apologizing but some are still unwilling to do so even with more evidence that provides a more accurate picture of what actually happened.

 

[AResistor]

I think the worst parts of the whole thing are adults jumping to conclusions on the whole incident and then threatening physical violence and/or doxxing on teenagers over social media, including some pretty big name celebrities and journalists. I'm glad some are apologizing but some are still unwilling to do so even with more evidence that provides a more accurate picture of what actually happened.

Doxxing and sending death threats to kids is never good (nor is bullying, but criticism isn't bullying), that said - it's easy to see the right-wing hypocrisy here given for the last year they've sent death threats to school shooting survivors. Not to mention those shooters are right-wingers, so I'm guessing right-wingers are continuing what their shooter started. So, it's impossible to take the cheering mobs over kids being put into cages and sending death threats to school shooting victims crowd as a group that cares about kids being threatened.

Not to mention more evidence is clearly showing the teens in the wrong. Not that that excuses adult bullying, but it takes a special kind of blindness to claim that these kids were angels.

There are two groups clearly in the wrong - the Black Israelites (of which, Nathan Phillips was not a part of) AND the teenagers. It doesn't take a special genius to figure that one out, just someone who can condemn racism no matter which race does it.

That anyone can condone the racist actions of the kids and the institution they attend that bred these notions into him - that tells us all we need to (and already) know about them. Of course they're okay with racism - because, honestly, when haven't they been?

 

[AResistor]

Just found this - such GREAT kids, really - how could anyone really call them anything but what they actually are?

I know - Conservatives who couldn't care less about harassing minorities and women easily can, because to them there's no issue with that at all.

 

[Donner]

Yeah, that Gillette ad was way off base

Brainwashed boys embodying toxic masculinity. That school sounds like a cancer on society.

 

[Holiday]

It's relevant that the theme of that game was to show up in all black and that the students are known for heckling players in an intense manner. The "white power okay hand sign" remark is particularly desperate, that didnt become a thing until 2017 but that top photo is from 2015 at the earliest.

 

[AResistor]

It's relevant that the theme of that game was to show up in all black and that the students are known for heckling players in an intense manner. The "white power okay hand sign" remark is particularly desperate, that didnt become a thing until 2017 but that top photo is from 2015 at the earliest.

That the school has "blackface" as part of that theme - still isn't a good look at all.

Not to mention - some of the students got the memo - DRESS in black, don't come in blackface; it doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. It does take racists, as those pictured, to think it's "edgy" or ok though.

 

[Holiday]

Blackface was not the theme, appearing in all black was the theme. Some students painted their bodies, hair and yes, faces black but that is not the same as blackface like for example what Ted Danson did when he roasted Whoopi Goldberg a couple decades ago.

 

[AResistor]

Blackface was not the theme, appearing in all black was the theme. Some students painted their bodies, hair and yes, faces black but that is not the same as blackface like for example what Ted Danson did when he roasted Whoopi Goldberg a couple decades ago.

Blackface was obviously not the official theme, but it's clear that the school had no problem with it. It's also clear from a Halloween picture showing another kid in blackface that these students take no issue with it either.


Blackface - going into specific black with white around the lips... these students at the game... hmm... all of us know you'll never see it Holiday. Especially the kid on the right (at the game) looks like he dressed up for a minstrel show.

That the school is known for it's blatant racism makes this one strikingly easy to see.

But, I bet you're dismissing all minority accounts about the school's "culture" as well...

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Twitter suspends account that helped ignite controversy over viral encounter - CNN

 

[AResistor]

Twitter suspends account that helped ignite controversy over viral encounter - CNN

To get to the bottom of why, not the video itself but --

The account claimed to belong to a California schoolteacher. Its profile photo was not of a schoolteacher, but of a blogger based in Brazil, CNN Business found. Twitter suspended the account soon after CNN Business asked about it.

The account, with the username @2020fight, was set up in December 2016 and appeared to be the tweets of a woman named Talia living in California.... Since the beginning of this year, the account had tweeted on average 130 times a day and had more than 40,000 followers.

McDonagh said he found the account suspicious due to its "high follower count, highly polarized and yet inconsistent political messaging, the unusually high rate of tweets, and the use of someone else's image in the profile photo."

Twitter's rules forbid users from creating "fake and misleading accounts," and shortly after CNN Business asked Twitter about the account, it was suspended.

A spokesperson for Twitter told CNN Business, "Deliberate attempts to manipulate the public conversation on Twitter by using misleading account information is a violation of the Twitter Rules."

Basic bot or spammer be suspended story.

Also, the user was not the original person who took and posted the video.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

So now due to all the threats against the students, police will be posted at the school when they open tomorrow:

 

[AResistor]

So now due to all the threats against the students, police will be posted at the school when they open tomorrow:

Yeah, threats - not cool. That said, I genuinely do not think Trump supporters care at all about death threats against minors given it's one of their schticks. It is telling that so many of them are complaining about death threats against racist minors while throughout the year they sent death threats to numerous school shooting survivor minors (ranging from Sandy Hook to Parkland and beyond). It indicates, unsurprisingly, who they see as their people - when it's not their people (non white/straight/Christians) OR when it's not who they consider to be their kind of whites, that's when they show no mercy to minors and hell they even pile in on the threats.

The students and school itself are obviously hotbeds for vile bigotry, which means people should complain to the school board to get that cesspool handled in the right manner. That means getting the Dean and Principal fired, turning a school into a white supremacist haven isn't in their job description and doing so actually goes against it, as well as updated regulations. And no - death threats and violence aren't the right way.

 

[Aximili86]

The overreach on this Covington story is hilarious.

The real kicker is, the kid probably *is* a *****e. Between that smirk, being 15 years old, and in a MAGA hat, wouldn't surprise me. That doesn't give you the authority to fabricate a story about a minor, he's literally just standing there with a smug look and not saying a thing to the native-American dude.

The native-American dude who got right up in his face while his buddies were saying stuff like "this isn't your country, go back to Europe".

You couldn't write anything funnier than the reality here.

And yeah, the CNN dude's not gonna be losing his job over encouraging people to punch a 10th grader in the face, either. Consistency is mean.

 

[frankgutz]

Not sure if this was already posted but...

 

[frankgutz]

If yall still want to defend those lil misoginy racist trash, its yall problem, this is why America has a big issue with racism and things like Social Justice Warriors and Culture Appropriation doesnt exist but there, ppl love to victimize those lil brats and BELIEVE THEM cuz they're white and kids, poor lil ****s , this is why they never change, but go off... yall can keep sending prayers next mass shooting and ignore this kind of things that keeps rooting the racism in your country

 

[AResistor]

The overreach on this Covington story is hilarious.

The real kicker is, the kid probably *is* a *****e. Between that smirk, being 15 years old, and in a MAGA hat, wouldn't surprise me. That doesn't give you the authority to fabricate a story about a minor, he's literally just standing there with a smug look and not saying a thing to the native-American dude.

The native-American dude who got right up in his face while his buddies were saying stuff like "this isn't your country, go back to Europe".

You couldn't write anything funnier than the reality here.

And yeah, the CNN dude's not gonna be losing his job over encouraging people to punch a 10th grader in the face, either. Consistency is mean.

The Native American (Nathan) and the Black Israelites are two different groups/people entirely. Not surprised you try to spin as though they’re tight though.

A Native American praying isn’t intimidating nor was that - clearly - his intention. If you’re afraid of Nathan simply playing the drums and chanting that says more about you than it does anything else.

 

[AResistor]

Not sure if this was already posted but...

It was. To all these “Covington students are angels, they’re not racists!” apparently they consider that non-prickish behavior, weird.

 

[frankgutz]

It was. To all these “Covington students are angels, they’re not racists!” apparently they consider that non-prickish behavior, weird.

I was shocked the day after when twitter was flooded with people telling them own stories of how they have been victims over the years from boy from that school and find a change.org link asking for help to those *******s, "Jesus needs you" they wrote, i was disgusted af, i just cant believe how they use religion to victimize this mf

 

[Aximili86]

Nothing in that counter video is focued on the main kid who's been singled out here in the days since. Those kids are a$$holes, no question. They're also not shown on either video yelling racial epithets and "build the wall!" as reported.

Also the smug smiling kid with the native guy getting up in his face wasn't involved in any of it. At least none of the cameras that were obviously there at the time picked up any of it, you'd figure it'd be worth capturing if he was.

Classic case of "teenage boys are immature d*cks, let's just run with a huge exaggeration and say they were saying _____, ______, and ______, because nobody's going to question it. White kids in MAGA hats, they probably *would* say that, right? Doesn't really matter that they didn't. Our heart's in the right place."

This is why there's backlash on this ****. Pretty sure nobody's saying these kids aren't morons. Just that what was reported didn't transpire, and the people putting it out there do so knowing there won't be any personal consequences for it. Why not fabricate what went down? It's for "the cause", nobody'll care.

 

[AResistor]

Nothing in that counter video is focued on the main kid who's been singled out here in the days since. Those kids are a$$holes, no question. They're also not shown on either video yelling racial epithets and "build the wall!" as reported.

Also the smug smiling kid with the native guy getting up in his face wasn't involved in any of it. At least none of the cameras that were obviously there at the time picked up any of it, you'd figure it'd be worth capturing if he was.

Classic case of "teenage boys are immature d*cks, let's just run with a huge exaggeration and say they were saying _____, ______, and ______, because nobody's going to question it. White kids in MAGA hats, they probably *would* say that, right? Doesn't really matter that they didn't. Our heart's in the right place."

This is why there's backlash on this ****. Pretty sure nobody's saying these kids aren't morons. Just that what was reported didn't transpire, and the people putting it out there do so knowing there won't be any personal consequences for it. Why not fabricate what went down? It's for "the cause", nobody'll care.

There isn’t one main kid at fault. The school being a breeding ground for white supremacy IS a very big f-ing problem. Hell, what the school is means the kids are, more or less, just getting blamed for how they were taught. They’re merely a product of their obviously toxic environment. The school is the thing.

Backlash? You mean among right-wingers who always go on the attack the second one of them is called out for being a bigot? Yeah, that kinda always happens and like always - eh, it’s their norm.

Going after one kid is wrong - it’s the school that needs to be held responsible (especially as more stories about it come to light) since they no doubt molded the kids to be this way. Acting like the kids weren’t racist and don’t attend a school eerily designed with white supremacy notions in mind is ridiculous.