Do you know of any fanboys/geeks who are racist?

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Who cares what color Jesus' skin was?

 

[Scourge2099]

I'm sure Jesus looked more like Arab than the way he's depicted in paintings as a white guy.

 

[chaseter]

Who cares what color Jesus' skin was?

Apparently some people do.

 

[chaseter]

Chaester was saying there's nothing wrong with a black Jesus. I pointed out that there is. Sure there's Ethiopian Jews , but I doubt there were any in the Roman Empire at that time.

So there was not a single black Jew in the Roman Empire at that time? You have a time machine?

 

[Scourge2099]

I'm just saying , how many Ethiopian Jews were even living in the Roman Empire at the time ? How many were in Bethlehem at that time ? Golly gee that Scourge is sure a racist because he wants Christ to be a white man even though he just said he probably looked Arabic.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Jesus could have been Chinese, it doesn't matter. His ethnicity makes him no different a person.

So...back to black Heimdall. I'll never stop getting a kick out of a black man playing a character based off of the "whitest" of the Norse gods.

 

[Scourge2099]

So there was not a single black Jew in the Roman Empire at that time? You have a time machine?

Read a history book man.The Roman Empire never went farther into Africa beyond north Africa. Ethiopia had it's own empire at the time. It was called the Aksumite Empire.

 

[Scourge2099]

Jesus could have been Chinese, it doesn't matter. His ethnicity makes him no different a person.

So...back to black Heimdall. I'll never stop getting a kick out of a black man playing a character based off of the "whitest" of the Norse gods.

I swear society has gotten so PC. I grew up with white heroes and found no problems with that even though I'm not white.

 

[chaseter]

Read a history book man.The Roman Empire never went farther into Africa beyond north Africa. Ethiopia had it's own empire at the time. It was called the Aksumite Empire.

Pretty sure there were black gladiators and a healthy slave trade.

 

[Scourge2099]

Pretty sure there were black gladiators and a healthy slave trade.

God knows the Romans only enslaved Africans when they became an empire.You know that back then no one gave a s*** about what color you were when they conquered you ? They made slaves out of other Europeans too you know .

 

[chaseter]

God knows the Romans only enslaved Africans when they became an empire.You know that back then no one gave a s*** about what color you were when they conquered you ? They made slaves out of other Europeans too you know .

So you just admitted that you were wrong. WIN

 

[Scourge2099]

So you just admitted that you were wrong. WIN

No I didn't admit I was wrong. The Messianic line had no Africans in it man. Just like I said before , read a Bible.

 

[RockSP]

Heh heh. Of course there are racist fanboys and geeks. Why wouldn't there be? It's not like racists only exist in certain hobbies or whatever. Hell, I've read plenty of racist crap on various boards including this one over the years...and no I'm not talking about people who want characters to be the same in movies as they are in the comics.

I remember years ago someone on here going on a rant about how it's unrealistic for blacks to be superheroes because if a black person had powers he/she would only commit crimes. This poster also went on to say that if Marvel or DC were to create a new black hero, that hero's costume should cover him/her from head to toe so readers wouldn't know the race, then reveal the race later on after being accepted by the audience. This dude was not joking.

 

[Silvermoth]

I actually think for comic books to continue being successful in movies and television there will come a day when people of different races will play caucasion superheroes. It's just logical.

The Spider-man franchise for example can't keep rebooting with the same sort of actors every time. It's like how no-one blinks an eye if there's an Asian Hamlet or an African American Duncan in MacBeth.

 

[Lord Valumart]

I actually think for comic books to continue being successful in movies and television there will come a day when people of different races will play caucasion superheroes. It's just logical.

The Spider-man franchise for example can't keep rebooting with the same sort of actors every time. It's like how no-one blinks an eye if there's an Asian Hamlet or an African American Duncan in MacBeth.

I think the main difference there is that with stuff like this you're casting for a type. I remember when the first Spider-man movie was out and they were saying how they thought Toby was perfect for Peter but they were kinda iffy on him as Spider-man. If you're making part of a continuing series then you have to be aware of what the public will accept. Like I said before, the chances of there being a black Bond are slim because the studio will fear the pubilc won't accept them. Hell some people still don't accept Craig.

Now casting other things, unless it's written down for some reason that they have to be from a perticual race then cast the best actor for the part. The other obvious exception is historical accuracy. I think it would knock your film pretty hard if you had an Asian Liz 1st, or black Washington pop up in it.

 

[doih]

Jesus was a brown guy.

 

[JAK®]

I'm of the opinion that there should be more non-white original characters instead of changing the race of existing characters.

 

[Grillz]

Wow this is a racy thread!
As on of those african american youths show on tv my feeble mind cant think of a reason for a superhero to a different race
Seriously, mabey down the line
we might see a black spider-man (here we go again), or an asian batman etc. but if the character is say i dont know a secondary character then if they want to change the race a little go ahead. I remember people complaing about half of the cast's race change in Spectacular Spider-Man, but hell didnt freeze over when Liz Allen was latino. If i recall Greg said the changed some of the races because they didnt want blonde hair guys and gals everywhere.

And I don't know if there is a Superhero equivalent to Archie Bunker but I'm pretty sure he would have to be white.

Not if he is like George Jefferson

 

[Manic]

I'm of the opinion that there should be more non-white original characters instead of changing the race of existing characters.

How do you feel about non-white original characters taking the codenames/themes of old white characters? You know, like Blue Beetle and Mr. Terrific.

Let me extend that question to everyone in this thread.

 

[Eddie Dean]

All I know is that Donald Glover would still make an awesome Spider-Man.

 

[terry78]

Honestly, as it was said in the Wanted thread back in the day, the transition from a white character to a black one means Hollywood is being too P.C., but vice versa means they're just trying to reach a broader audience, and it's about "who can best portray the character." I am not a fan of Wanted nor of Mark Millar, but casting Jolie as Fox still bugged the **** out of me.

 

[Iron_Stark]

Would people be upset if Jonah Hill was cast as Fat Albert? How about Jason Stathem as Luke Cage?

As far as the French Batman being a black Muslim there shouldn't be any contraversy. Now making Bruce Wayne black, now that's a different story.

 

[JAK®]

How do you feel about non-white original characters taking the codenames/themes of old white characters? You know, like Blue Beetle and Mr. Terrific.

Let me extend that question to everyone in this thread.

That's a different situation, it doesn't bother me as much, however too many non-white characters are like that. It's basically saying that unless you are a white male you can't be a successful character without leeching off an established concept. Women characters suffer the most from this.

 

[Manic]

It's basically saying that unless you are a white male you can't be a successful character without leeching off an established concept.

Sadly, it's kind of true. But not really. But that's exactly it. But it's more broad.

Completely new characters with completely new concepts (regardless of race and gender) don't seem to click with comic readers anymore. New characters are created all the time, and they don't tend to stick around unless they're part of a popular super-team or they're using a previous hero's identity. And that's where you find most new characters of any race: using an old superhero's name, or part of a team. This doesn't become controversial until one of the replacement superheroes turns out to be a minority.

 

[E-Man]

How do you feel about non-white original characters taking the codenames/themes of old white characters? You know, like Blue Beetle and Mr. Terrific.

Let me extend that question to everyone in this thread.

I'm a huge fan of Mr. Terrific. Hell I haven't even read much from the original, so I can't say that I'm offended with the Holt incarnation. In the DCU there is a precedent of people taking on older hero's names and legacy, so it's not like it's something completely out of the blue.

It's different from taking a specific character and changing their race. In these two scenarios you have different characters in a costume instead of outright changing the original character's color. It's more of a homage than changing someone's race. The bigger problem to me is that those two heroes could have their own mantle. Both Holt and Reyes could be called something completely different and they would still have the same appeal.