Jocks vs Geeks: Is this paradoxical?

Alpha and Omega said:
That statement was coming from someone who seems very inexperienced at conversation w/ women period. God forbid moving on to human contact.

Uh, Kaine, no offense, but the attractive woman who you may dance w/ at a bar or share a drink w/ probably aren't the type that you'd want to share a thought-provoking/general conversation with. . a la . . kind of 49er's point.

Or maybe that's just my view.

edit: sorry for taking the thread off topic.
You did bring up an interesting point about the type of people who some athletes look up to, and the type that comic-book lovers enjoy. Nice comparison. :up:

I don't pick up girls in bars. If you find a good bar, it's a good place to sit with buddies and talk. You don't have to get drunk, I'm usually happy with one or two pints. Sometimes I don't drink at all.
 
I was a Crossbreed between a what you call a Jock and a Geek/Nerd in my school days.
 
I don't think that geeks look up to jocks or that superheroes represent jocks.

There are some subtle differences in superheroes to the stereotypical jock.

the most popular ones are incredibly smart, whether tactically or book smart, or incredibly knowledgeable in their field.

Secondly, superheroes look after the weak, the essence of if society were more idealised (actually a ideal society wouldn't have the need for superheroes but that's beside the point), people would be generally fitter and better at being able to deal and protect themselves in situations of duress, taking away the need to be protected, making their heroes obselete to a some degree.

now what superheroes provide is a safety blanket of protection that allows for the individual to remain as themselves unchanged knowing that they can just be themselves without any kinda fear of acceptance or persecution, be it religious, racial or whatever be the case and i think that's the point.

you shouldn't want to change.

emulation of a body type of those superheroes is a trend that i think is not taken up by the average geek, rather than the average nomral comic book viewer that managed to get sucked into it and i guess has managed to take something else from the medium, perhaps a minor hero complex, which is fine because i'm currently on the verge of nearing or surpassing some of the definition of some of my favourite characters although i don't take it to the gym so i can retain flexibility (plus i don't want to spend money).


all in all, comic book readers tend to come down to two groups, though who wish to feel protected or those who wish to become protectors.

a lot of the hype has those in both fields, you can see it when it comes to relationship threads and general advise threads that there are some who wish to feel the need of others while there are others who feel the need to help (no matter how mundane). It's just that simple.

protectors are more likely to interact with different groups although they know what they are and try not to fit into a single social click or have a single tight group, just like their heroes, either loners or tight solid affiliations.

the ones who wish for protection unfortunately are the ones who are classed are stereotypical comic book fans, ie geeks, although the level of fanatasism (sp?) is not necessarily any greater, although less social interaction and more time to engulf inside fiction may give the impression.


that's how i look at it anyway.
 
I used to get teased by my teamates because I was always reading comics on the bus to away games. But it was playful teasing, nothing real mean. I used to hang out with the so called "geeks" and "jocks" in college, because as an athelte and a media arts major I belonged to both camps. I actually got judged more by my "geek" friends but whatever. Point is, if you want to attach a label to people, yuo have to attach more than one. You can be a geek and a jock.
 

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