Comics Do you like the unmasking....THE POLL

[SpideyInATree]

Read Amz #534 he saids he's stuck between whats lawful and what is right.
And you still haven't presented how MJ and his aunt would be in danger. Stark might use them to get to him, but he wouldn't hurt or arresst them.
Eitherway, he's too trusting to think Stark would do that anyway. He's still out of character. Especially because he not only unmasked himself but assissted the capekillers in fighting other heroes he once looked up to. The battle even lead to the death of one of the anti's.
Also,if he was anti-reg it would have lead to greater stories than this foolish unmasking business IMO. Spiderman helping the innocent despite what the law saids>Spiderman taking down heroes because the law saids so.

Stuck between what's lawful and morally right. The heroes don't want to register, even the ones who did go with it. Peter knows the registration is a bad thing, but it's become law and he has to do what's right by the law. Or else he's exactly what everyone always accused him of being all the time he's been Spider-Man, a wanted criminal.

I've given reasons for the danger of MJ and Aunt May. Even if he didn't unmask and went anti-registration they're still in danger. Villains, especially those who already know his secret, could have easy pickings. I mean, how could Spider-Man stop them if he's hiding? Who would be there to help them if all the heroes are out rounding up all the anti-registration people?

And even if he's anti-registration he's still battling heroes that he's looked up to regardless.

Greater stories? No offense, we're getting ten times better stories with him unmasked than if he kept the mask on. It'd still just be one big old same song and dance, except this time he's actually a wanted criminal instead of being misconcieved as a criminal.

And if you also read # 534 you could tell he didn't want to fight Cap. He knows that Tony is watching him through the suit. And in the recent issue of Sensational he's really questioning whether or not he did the right thing when it came to taking off the mask. It's all a big story, and one that's a hell of a lot more intriguing, and exciting than him keeping the mask on, going anti-registration, and having the Spider-Man books be nothing but another borefest.

 

[Sloth7d]

Stuck between what's lawful and morally right. The heroes don't want to register, even the ones who did go with it. Peter knows the registration is a bad thing, but it's become law and he has to do what's right by the law. Or else he's exactly what everyone always accused him of being all the time he's been Spider-Man, a wanted criminal.
The opinions of the public never stopped him before, and shouldn't have stopped him now. In the storyarc spiderhunt, he still went outside as spiderman despite the million dollar bounty on his head.
Why did he do this? Because even though it was tough on him he still felt responsible to protect the public.

I've given reasons for the danger of MJ and Aunt May. Even if he didn't unmask and went anti-registration they're still in danger. Villains, especially those who already know his secret, could have easy pickings. I mean, how could Spider-Man stop them if he's hiding? Who would be there to help them if all the heroes are out rounding up all the anti-registration people? They are in stark towers. And the villains who do know his identity are either dead or in jail.

And even if he's anti-registration he's still battling heroes that he's looked up to regardless. True. But he doesn't like Ironman. He actually respects Cap.

Greater stories? No offense, we're getting ten times better stories with him unmasked than if he kept the mask on. It'd still just be one big old same song and dance, except this time he's actually a wanted criminal instead of being misconcieved as a criminal.
Spider hunt was a great story arc. And underground Avenger on the run story arc> government lapdog story arc. Besides, in the long run the unmasking hurts his character and who he is. Eventually it will be reconned. And that would only prove how bad an idea it was in the first place.

And if you also read # 534 you could tell he didn't want to fight Cap. He knows that Tony is watching him through the suit. And in the recent issue of Sensational he's really questioning whether or not he did the right thing when it came to taking off the mask. It's all a big story, and one that's a hell of a lot more intriguing, and exciting than him keeping the mask on, going anti-registration, and having the Spider-Man books be nothing but another borefest.
Doesn't change the fact that he shouldn't have been pro-reg from the start.

 

[Chris Wallace]

SLOTH7D, you're making total sense while SIAT is just baffling me; he knwoingly went along with something he knew to be a bad idea & that's neither stupis nor out of character? His standing his ground & fighting would be a borefest, & seeing him roll over & take it up the tailpipe is great storytelling? And if Spidey's hiding, MJ & Aunt May are presumably hiding too, & nobody'd be looking for them.

 

[DACrowe]

So wait Spider-Man doing something because the law told him to and so he won't be hunted down as a wanted criminal is in character? WHAT COMICS HAVE YOU BEEN ****ING READING MAN? He has never EVER sided against what he thought was morally right EVER in the comics because a bad law on an election year told him to.

And secondly, yes his family was easy pickings for his enemies, the ones who knew anyway, but before the unmasking you could count them on one hand and now you just made every super villain, every second stringer, t hird stringer and hood or hood's possy who Spidey ever ticked off over a decade plus of crime fighting looking to settle the score by wasting his family.

That list went to about 5 to 50,000 just like that. And it only takes one shot at a supermarket. Stupidity is stupidty and stupid writing is stupid writing. Nothing will ever excuse this then.

 

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

No danger huh? I doubt that highly. If Spider-Man would have went anti-registration, no matter what Stark said, he'd have used Aunt May and Mary Jane against Peter to get him to come in. And if he would have gotten his family out of there, what kind of life would they have anyway? On the run? Hiding in one of Nick Fury's super secret hideouts? Peter wouldn't want his family to have that kind of life because he felt it was the "right thing" not to sign up for a registration act.

but isn't Pete's family Practically prisoners on Strak Towers... I thought Peter would do everything to avoid endangering MJ and Aunt May, so far all he's done is Paint some Big-ass Bullseyes on May and MJ...

but not only them, he painted the bullseyes on Liz, Flash, Betty, Robbie, even on good ol' JJJ... let's not forget the children, all the fellow teachers at Midtown high... Spidey's pissed off a lot of people from the two-bit purse snatcher to the Kingpin, plus the super villains... unmasking seems pretty stupid IMO

 

[shinlyle]

[sarcasm] Yes, I love EVERYTHING Marvel does and play with Quesada's man boobs [/sarcasm]

LOL!!! That'sthe funniest crap I've read all morning!! t:

 

[Chris Wallace]

So wait Spider-Man doing something because the law told him to and so he won't be hunted down as a wanted criminal is in character? WHAT COMICS HAVE YOU BEEN ****ING READING MAN? He has never EVER sided against what he thought was morally right EVER in the comics because a bad law on an election year told him to.

And secondly, yes his family was easy pickings for his enemies, the ones who knew anyway, but before the unmasking you could count them on one hand and now you just made every super villain, every second stringer, t hird stringer and hood or hood's possy who Spidey ever ticked off over a decade plus of crime fighting looking to settle the score by wasting his family.

That list went to about 5 to 50,000 just like that. And it only takes one shot at a supermarket. Stupidity is stupidty and stupid writing is stupid writing. Nothing will ever excuse this then.

Let's add that the law DID NOT require him to unmask for the public; just for the government. Nobody told him to go public except Tony. He could've registered & all that other crap without making his loved ones a target.

 

[Chris Wallace]

but isn't Pete's family Practically prisoners on Strak Towers... I thought Peter would do everything to avoid endangering MJ and Aunt May, so far all he's done is Paint some Big-ass Bullseyes on May and MJ...

but not only them, he painted the bullseyes on Liz, Flash, Betty, Robbie, even on good ol' JJJ... let's not forget the children, all the fellow teachers at Midtown high... Spidey's pissed off a lot of people from the two-bit purse snatcher to the Kingpin, plus the super villains... unmasking seems pretty stupid IMO

I keep saying this.

 

[shinlyle]

but isn't Pete's family Practically prisoners on Strak Towers... I thought Peter would do everything to avoid endangering MJ and Aunt May, so far all he's done is Paint some Big-ass Bullseyes on May and MJ...

but not only them, he painted the bullseyes on Liz, Flash, Betty, Robbie, even on good ol' JJJ... let's not forget the children, all the fellow teachers at Midtown high... Spidey's pissed off a lot of people from the two-bit purse snatcher to the Kingpin, plus the super villains... unmasking seems pretty stupid IMO

WARNING! SARCASM ALERT!!!
What are you talking about?! Unmasking in public gives us so many potentially great stories! They won't get repetitive or stupid at all! And the storylines won't all revolve around Peter and his loved ones being the target of someone who is pissed at Spider-Man! They'll be totally original! Nothing like what happened in Daredevil, after his identity was leaked to the public! Nothing like it at all!!

Seriously, I don't knwo how the hell Marvel justified this. We all know it'll be retconned eventually. Every path points to it being undone somehow or another. I mean, who wants to be reading about Peter losing loved ones because he unmasked in public? Lots of people, sure. Now, who wants to read about that non-stop for the next 10 years? No one. That's right.

Even those who support the unmasking have to admit that this story only has a limited amount of possibilities. MJ and Aunt May WILL be killed because of this, as will whoever associates with Peter Parker or Spider-Man in the future. Any non-superpowered person that gets involved with Spider-Man or Peter Parker for the forseeable future is wormfood. How boring is that going to get?! Marvel can't even keep more than 2 supporting cast members in the book at a time, and no new ones have been introduced in about 10 years! How are they going to keep new and original cast members coming along so that they can get killed off?

Sorry, this idea stinks. We're on a dead-end road to there being no more Peter Parker(which Marvel already tried to do after the robot parents crap), and that negates all that was original and cool about Spidey. That "everyman" status has been on it's way out ever since Spidey became the supposed "Chosen One" of the "Spider-God/Demon" thing.

Congrats, Marvel....you've made your icon unrecognizeable. :

 

[Chris Wallace]

That's what happens when your head honcho doesn't like said icon. He can't like him. Have you seen how he draws him? He makes Spidey look like he's on crack. Add to this all he's done to destroy him, & what do you come up with?

 

[shinlyle]

That's what happens when your head honcho doesn't like said icon. He can't like him. Have you seen how he draws him? He makes Spidey look like he's on crack. Add to this all he's done to destroy him, & what do you come up with?

Ugh. I know...Joey Q hasn't drawn a decent Spider-Man since Daredevil #8.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Shinlyle, what ARE you reading now?

 

[shinlyle]

Shinlyle, what ARE you reading now?

Spidey-wise, I READ ASM and Sensational...but I refuse to buy them.


As for Marvel, I read the following:

-Daredevil
-Punisher MAX
-Punisher: War Journal (upcoming)
-Runaways
-Young Avengers
-Ultimates 2
-Ultimate Spider-Man
-Astonishing X-Men
-Amazing Spider-Girl (Upcoming)
-Civil War

DC/Vertigo
-Fables
-Y:The Last Man
-Batman
-Detective Comics
-All Star Superman

Image
-Savage Dragon
-Girls
-Noble Causes

That's about it, I think.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I just thought of soemthing; most of you would chalk this up to bad continuity, but...
why, since the introduction of the Registration Act, has nobody approached Matt Murdock & offered him a deal? They're doing it w/everybody else.

 

[Norman Osborn]

I just thought of soemthing; most of you would chalk this up to bad continuity, but...
why, since the introduction of the Registration Act, has nobody approached Matt Murdock & offered him a deal? They're doing it w/everybody else.

Yeah I asked that myself earlier....maybe because he was incarcerated before the Act passed and is now on the lamb?....perhaps the identity of Alton Lennox would shed a clue?.....but you are right...Matt Murdoch seems like a pretty large plot hole in this whole story

 

[3dman27]

maybe because hes enhanced senses aside he's legally blind

 

[Chris Wallace]

But since the only crime he was being charged with was being a costumed vigilante, the fact that it could now be legal should override when he got locked up.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Not that I'd expect him to take the deal, mind you-it just seems odd that the offer hasn't been made.

 

[SpideyInATree]

SLOTH7D, you're making total sense while SIAT is just baffling me; he knwoingly went along with something he knew to be a bad idea & that's neither stupis nor out of character? His standing his ground & fighting would be a borefest, & seeing him roll over & take it up the tailpipe is great storytelling? And if Spidey's hiding, MJ & Aunt May are presumably hiding too, & nobody'd be looking for them.

How about that, huh, someone who agrees with what you're saying makes sense and someone who doesn't agree with what you're saying baffles you. I guess I just don't take my Spider-Man reading as seriously as most people around here.

 

[Chris Wallace]

No-read the whole post. It's not about agreement. Your posts simply aren't making sense to me. Think back to the debate we had over the "sidekick suit". We came to a point where even though I still didn't agree with you, I understood where you were coming from. Here we have neither.

 

[SpideyInATree]

I'm sorry they aren't making sense to you. It's just a difference of opinion. It just seems like I'm being treated like I'm some kind of moron because I don't follow the leader with how I feel about the current state of Spider-Man.

Much like in th 90's when I was this 15 year old kid debating with grown adults about Ben Reilly being the one true Spider-Man. I loved it and thought it was going to be a great read, which it was for me. But I got treated like a piece of crap everytime I walked into the comic shop because they felt I "wasn't worthy".

And yet all I see around here are people clamoring for the return of Ben Reilly, which boggles my mind.

 

[The Joker]

It just seems like I'm being treated like I'm some kind of moron because I don't follow the leader with how I feel about the current state of Spider-Man.

Awww man you're not a moron, so don't be thinking like that.

It's just differences of opinion. Different strokes for different folks. I'll admit I don't understand how you can enjoy what's going on with Spidey right now, but that doesn't make you a moron. So don't be thinking that now.

Doc Ock has spoken

 

[Sloth7d]

I'm sorry they aren't making sense to you. It's just a difference of opinion. It just seems like I'm being treated like I'm some kind of moron because I don't follow the leader with how I feel about the current state of Spider-Man.

Much like in th 90's when I was this 15 year old kid debating with grown adults about Ben Reilly being the one true Spider-Man. I loved it and thought it was going to be a great read, which it was for me. But I got treated like a piece of crap everytime I walked into the comic shop because they felt I "wasn't worthy".

And yet all I see around here are people clamoring for the return of Ben Reilly, which boggles my mind.

Never said you were a moron. I just thought we were debating a difference of opinion. I never meant to make you feel that way if thats what I did.

 

[SpideyInATree]

I'm certainly being treated like one here. No wonder most people don't want to come into this forum.

 

[Sloth7d]

I'm certainly being treated like one here. No wonder most people don't want to come into this forum.

No one is treating you like a moron. Your opinion is just the minority here at the time.
It's no different than if I went to a "how do you feel about JarjarBinks" thread and said that he's a good character.