does going to church make your life better?

[Mr Sparkle]

For that matter, you can't just "look up one verse" and be satisfied with that answer. That would make for one lazy and useless Christ follower.

A person needs to look at the context in which something is used, and why it was recorded. I was talking about finding a REAL type of answer (or something close) while you just wanted to make me look wrong because apparantly you've lumped me into the group of protagonists in this thread.

you CAN'T look at the context.
since the bible is taken from separate books edited and with their context willfuly REMOVED.
oh, and just so you know, the bible was meant to TAKE AT FACE VALUE.
that's what FOLLOWING is about.
that's why you're not called "god's researchers"

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

erm, if you believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God then you have to believe that God has sent countless babies to Hell.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

yes, THANK YOU!

 

[Darthphere]

Besides, what exactly was I supposed to Google, "Babies go to hell"???

It'd be just as easy if I grabbed my Bible and looked it up, but no, you didn't want to tell me the verse YOU were refering to.

For that matter, you can't just "look up one verse" and be satisfied with that answer. That would make for one lazy and useless Christ follower.

A person needs to look at the context in which something is used, and why it was recorded. I was talking about finding a REAL type of answer (or something close) while you just wanted to make me look wrong because apparantly you've lumped me into the group of protagonists in this thread.

2 Corinthians 5:10

 

[Prognosticator]

erm, if you believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God then you have to believe that God has sent countless babies to Hell.

If you were a defendant in court, your client would have already been given the needle with this kind of "1 + 3 = 9" inference.

 

[Darthphere]

erm, if you believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God then you have to believe that God has sent countless babies to Hell.

Which i don't. I can't fully trust something written by the hands of man. I know that probably makes me a bad christian and what not, but thats how I feel.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

If you were a defendant in court, your client would have already been given the needle with this kind of "1 + 3 = 9" inference.

I he was a defendant in court he wouldn't have clients

 

[Darren Daring]

I he was a defendant in court he wouldn't have clients

He doesn't have any clients becuase he's a bad lawyer, and he's a defendant because one of his clients was not satisfied. He can't connect all the dots for you, sparkle.

 

[thedeadite]

Which i don't. I can't fully trust something written by the hands of man. I know that probably makes me a bad christian and what not, but thats how I feel.

written, re-written, translated, re-translated, edited etc.... i don't understand how even "good" christians can take it at face value after everything that's been gone through to create the book.

 

[Prognosticator]

2 Corinthians 5:10

Doesn't say anything about 'babies going to hell'. You must have meant it for the Louisiana kid with the 'God pride'.

Even in that, I didn't see anything that condemned his stance.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Which i don't. I can't fully trust something written by the hands of man. I know that probably makes me a bad christian and what not, but thats how I feel.

I definitely respect that view more than the one where it's all diviniely inspired...because it Can't be since there are so many mistakes in it, such as when God says not to eat rabbits because they chew their cud.

However, the thing I don't understand about the belief that it isn't all divinely inspired (which is the belief of one of my best friends in the universe, so we've talked about it a trillion times), is, if there's so much at stake, it's so important, life-or-death...that we hear and believe the good news to be saved from an eternity of torment, and if God loves us so much, then, you'd think, since he's omnipotent, that he'd be able to clearly get his message through to us and prevent it from being polluted and altered by imperfect men.

 

[Taiwarriorz21]

thanxs I have a Pride in My personal relationship with God. God has blessed me and I give Him all the Glory and Honor for that. He deserves my all!

 

[Darthphere]

Doesn't say anything about 'babies going to hell'. You must have meant it for the Louisiana kid with the 'God pride'.

Even in that, I didn't see anything that condemned his stance.

It says we will be judged by our own sins, not the sin of Adam, therefore, its impossible to for an infant to be judged on his own sins if he hasn't committed any.

 

[Prognosticator]

I he was a defendant in court he wouldn't have clients

the defendant or defender is "any party who is required to answer the complaint of a plaintiff or pursuer before a court", including the representative of the accused.

 

[Darthphere]

I definitely respect that view more than the one where it's all diviniely inspired...because it Can't be since there are so many mistakes in it, such as when God says not to eat rabbits because they chew their cud.

However, the thing I don't understand about the belief that it isn't all divinely inspired (which is the belief of one of my best friends in the universe, so we've talked about it a trillion times), is, if there's so much at stake, it's so important, life-or-death...that we hear and believe the good news to be saved from an eternity of torment, and if God loves us so much, then, you'd think, since he's omnipotent, that he'd be able to clearly get his message through to us and prevent it from being polluted and altered by imperfect men.

I see your point, and its one of those things I can't ever explain.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

the defendant or defender is "any party who is required to answer the complaint of a plaintiff or pursuer before a court", including the representative of the accused.

but even if your definition is correct the most common use is when refering to the acussed.

so, yeah, no.

 

[The_Mystery]

Where did this "babies are condemned to hell" thing come from?

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I see your point, and its one of those things I can't ever explain.

Neither can I.

 

[Eros]

I beleive in magic and stuff like i think anyway, but to me the idea of God is a concept invented buy humans who need something to beleive in.

 

[Darthphere]

Neither can I.

Are we like the Wonder Twins?

 

[The_Mystery]

Which i don't. I can't fully trust something written by the hands of man. I know that probably makes me a bad christian and what not, but thats how I feel.

I kinda understand where you're coming from there. To me, that just makes me want to research more and get a better understanding of the book I believe in.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I beleive in magic and stuff like i think anyway, but to me the idea of God is a concept invented buy humans who need something to beleive in.

"Something To Believe In" is the worst song by the hair metal band "Poison". And that's saying something.

 

[Darthphere]

I kinda understand where you're coming from there. To me, that just makes me want to research more and get a better understanding of the book I believe in.

Me too. I always wanted to be an historian so I like to mix things up with actualy historical facts. I had a chance to go with some archelogy students to Israel but decided to get blown up on a bus at home.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

I beleive in magic a

Sean Cassidy really hoped that you did.

 

[The_Mystery]

Me too. I always wanted to be an historian so I like to mix things up with actualy historical facts. I had a chance to go with some archelogy students to Israel but decided to get blown up on a bus at home.

I couldn't be an historian, but I do like to be well-read. I think the problem most christians fall into is that they don't study any deeper than the pages of the Bible. You've gotta know where the book you're reading comes from, who wrote it and what it really means.