Duncan Jones' Warcraft - Part 3

[TheVileOne]

Warcraft is maybe true breakthrough movie. If this does well and this become franchise without domestic demo, some wont like it but it could be the end of one era. And we may go follow into new one where studios dont care about pleasing domestic audience. I always thought domestic audience read critics are overrated and they monopol the world from stand point if you dont please them and give them exactly what they want you wont have success. But seems Edge of Tommorow, Pacific Rim, now Warcraft started something truly magnificent.

This is not true. Also your logic makes no sense. Edge of Tomorrow and Pacific Rim were both well liked by critics. Edge of Tomorrow received great reviews by critics and got a 90% rotten tomatoes score. Pacific Rim is certified fresh. Warcraft received worse reviews than either film.

Domestic critics didn't cause a lack of success for Edge of Tomorrow or Pacific Rim stateside. I maintain that Pacific Rim had a weak marketing campaign.

 

[StormC]

Maybe the rest of the world is too lenient on good plot and characters

I'd say it's more that a lot of storytelling probably gets lost in translation so foreign watchers don't watch movies that jump across language barriers with the same expectations as they might in their native language. As long as the broad strokes click, that's the important thing.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think it's pretty well established that international audiences enjoy big Hollywood spectacle like this. Case in point, Battleship made $237 million overseas and still ended up making $300 million worldwide.

 

[Marvolo]

I enjoyed it. It was a fun movie and had likeable characters. But I could tell that they cut quite a bit out of the film. I hope we get an extended cut. A 3 hour cut that improved the character development would be nice.

7/10

I definitely want a sequel.

 

[Midnite1971]

I was surprised....I kinda liked it and I've never played the game.
7.5/10

Rotten Tomatoes:
I feel as though quite a few of the negatives come from those that have never played a video game in their lives....there's a lot of them out there.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Why should you have to have played a videogame to like the Warcraft MOVIE?

Sounds like a lot of fans are using b.s excuses to defend bad movies.

 

[StormC]

Same thing happens with comic book adaptations. "These critics have never read a comic book, so they have no grounds to criticize a movie." If a movie can't be understood as a movie, then it's a failure.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Same thing happens with comic book adaptations. "These critics have never read a comic book, so they have no grounds to criticize a movie." If a movie can't be understood as a movie, then it's a failure.

Exactly.

 

[Marvolo]

I played word of warcraft for a couple days when I was 15. That was 11 years ago, and havent touched warcraft since. I understood the movie just fine. Whoever is saying they didnt understand this film is either really thick or just reaching for an excuse to gripe.

Orcs come through a portal. Bring a dark magic with them. Orcs attack villages and build a new portal to bring the horde through so they can conquer the world. Humans fight them. Its really not that hard to understand.

 

[Octoberist]

But I think maybe the problem is the lack of immersiveness.

 

[Midnite1971]

Same thing happens with comic book adaptations. "These critics have never read a comic book, so they have no grounds to criticize a movie." If a movie can't be understood as a movie, then it's a failure.

True....I was speaking more along the lines of.....the genre

 

[regnak]

I never played the game and I agree the movie is bad(due to stuff being cut out and certain strange plot holes) But it is was a very fun bad movie.


For instance:

Spoiler

War is here so the rest of the world doesn't want to help. And the Dwarves say they are going on strike! Say what? However clearly they changed their minds in one of the cut scenes since they outfitted that entire strike force with those high caliber pistols.

That's bad but I forgave it since the good guys broke pistols to the last sword fight. t:

 

[Marvolo]

Am I alone in thinking the elves prosthetics and makeup looked like dog crap? The ears and eyebrows looked like they were made and put on by some amateur cosplayer.

 

[Mysteryman]

Why should you have to have played a videogame to like the Warcraft MOVIE?

Sounds like a lot of fans are using b.s excuses to defend bad movies.

this is why I have chosen not to see the film.
It looks like it is just for the die hard fans.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

this is why I have chosen not to see the film.
It looks like it is just for the die hard fans.

That's why I'm waiting until DVD as well.

 

[Marvolo]

this is why I have chosen not to see the film.
It looks like it is just for the die hard fans.

It's not. Seriously there is nothing in this movie the GA won't understand. It's nowhere near as dense as LOTR and GOT. If you are able to understand those without reading the books then you'll have no problem with this film. The movie is surprisingly focused on the humans and orcs, and keeps it simple and straightforward, and doesn't get into the politics of Azeroth. he wider world and it's politics is hinted at, but the movie doesn't throw the viewer into the deep end. If anything it feels like there was a longer cut (at least 30 minutes is thought to have been cut from the film) that would have had more heavy die hard stuff in it, because what is in theaters feels like it's been cut to its most digestible form.

Whoever is telling you this is only for die-hard Warcraft fans is mistaken.

 

[Victarion]

Is it worth the admission - or would you wait for the bluray?

 

[TheVileOne]

It's not. Seriously there is nothing in this movie the GA won't understand. It's nowhere near as dense as LOTR and GOT. If you are able to understand those without reading the books then you'll have no problem with this film. The movie is surprisingly focused on the humans and orcs, and keeps it simple and straightforward, and doesn't get into the politics of Azeroth. he wider world and it's politics is hinted at, but the movie doesn't throw the viewer into the deep end. If anything it feels like there was a longer cut (at least 30 minutes is thought to have been cut from the film) that would have had more heavy die hard stuff in it, because what is in theaters feels like it's been cut to its most digestible form.

Whoever is telling you this is only for die-hard Warcraft fans is mistaken.

I feel like at least in Lord of the Rings they adequately explained what was going on.

 

[terry78]

I had no idea Daniel Wu was Gul'dur. That dude can act.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I played word of warcraft for a couple days when I was 15. That was 11 years ago, and havent touched warcraft since. I understood the movie just fine. Whoever is saying they didnt understand this film is either really thick or just reaching for an excuse to gripe.

Orcs come through a portal. Bring a dark magic with them. Orcs attack villages and build a new portal to bring the horde through so they can conquer the world. Humans fight them. Its really not that hard to understand.

I haven't seen it yet, but I always feel when people say it is confusing it is because there are a lot of characters and concepts thrown out there, and because they are bored. Like the plot is easy to follow, but they are bored and stop paying attention. So character motivations go over the head. This can also be a problem of editing.

 

[Victarion]

The only movie in recent memory I've seen - and had no trouble (was confused myself that other people were confused lol) following that was often said to be confusing in most of the reviews - was Pirates 3. So I'm not sure if Wow is actually confusing or, as Darth says, maybe boring with some questionable editing.

Guldan is pretty cool looking though.

 

[MoPlaYa]

I enjoyed it. It was a fun movie and had likeable characters. But I could tell that they cut quite a bit out of the film. I hope we get an extended cut. A 3 hour cut that improved the character development would be nice.

7/10

I definitely want a sequel.

I feel the same way.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

Just got back from seeing it with my mom and my sister. Sis, like me, played the original WarCraft games back in the day, though her memory on some of the lore is a bit sketchy (she hasn't played WCIII as recently as I have). Mom knew absolutely zip going in.

We all loved it.

Sure, the editing could have been a bit better. Felt like some places it could have been tightened up, other places maybe let it breathe a bit more (felt a bit disjointed at times).

But on the whole, I really really liked it. Loved pretty much all the characters, absolutely loved the portrayal of magic (and woohoo to them throwing in a polymorph! Wouldn't be WarCraft with at least one polymorph done ). Loved the look of the orcs (is it me, or did I see Grom Hellscream in the background in some scenes?) Loved the action, loved the world and the look of it. Loved Ramin Djawadi's music (going to have to add that to my soundtrack collection)

My mom (as the 'general audience' member among our group) says that she felt instantly pulled into the world, and didn't have a problem following the plot/storyline.

Would happily see it in the theater again if given the chance, will definitely be buying it on home release.

Someone gets polymorphed? man, that's worth the price of admission to me because I ****in hated getting polymorphed in PVP but it was satisfying when an enemy was.

Sounds like my mom will love the movie and from what I hear from other friends who have played Warcraft before and watched it, I probably will too.

 

[redhawk23]

I actually found the first half or so of the film to actually be pretty compelling but all around it just kind of lost steam for me. In general, the orc sections of the film were much more engrossing, the conflict more direct. The human half of the film was a lot of name dropping and wheel spinning.

I knew this wasn't likely to be a good film but I was not prepared for the specific, somewhat bizarre ways in which it was bad. There was no real flow or momentum to much of the film. Scenes began and ended quickly and seemingly at random before they had the chance to contribute to the plot. There was no real rhythm to the editing if that makes sense. Scenes in movies end usually end or cut away once the information they needed to give or the beat they they try to hit are serviced. There were many scenes in this that just cut away without purpose.

The effects work greatly improved since the first trailers. The big screen really allowed for the details to sing. I honestly wish the whole movie was just on the orc side as both the design work and the writing was so much stronger.

In many ways this film still scratched the fantasy itch I had. The orc action in the magic was well done.

Just to be clear, the failings of this movie have nothing to do at all with it being a video game adaptation. The materials there they could have done some pretty great. There's a solid story hook here, but they failed to land it.

 

[redhawk23]

I haven't seen it yet, but I always feel when people say it is confusing it is because there are a lot of characters and concepts thrown out there, and because they are bored. Like the plot is easy to follow, but they are bored and stop paying attention. So character motivations go over the head. This can also be a problem of editing.

Its not a matter of the story being complicated and more a matter of bad writing, acting and editing choices failing to service the story. The beats they attempt to not land.

A character is introduced and has his dramatic death in the very next scene. To be clear they are essentially a non-character.