The Amazing Spider-Man Dunst "Definitely on board" Spider-Man 4

[david icke]

You see, I'm not sure why some fans are so adament about that. I do agree that we need to move away from formula and I too tire of the girlfriend who is kidnapped by the villain and has little else to do. However, love (or even the lack and aspiration for it) is a major part of most people's lives. And Spidey is the[/] EVERYDAY superhero. His love life has always been a major factor of the character. As John Romita Sr. said, "It's a soap opera that a superhero fight breaks out in every now and then."

I would be fine and very happy for their to be no love interest for Batman in the third film. But Spidey? He needs it, even if it is a hole in his life, somehow.

Yeah, you're right, whereas Batman/Bruce Wayne doesn't need to interact with the world to bring in his rent money, PP has always had the Bugle, college etc where he was always in contact with women, dating or falling in or out with one girl or another.
I suppose I was thinking along teh lines of him having it as 'a hole in his life' when I was saying that it might be more interesting having MJ being in the movie as his ex who knows his secret. Pete could be wanting her back but she is not sure at all after all the downers of SM3. Not sure about where BH's Gwen Stacey should fit into all this, unlike teh comics where you play with all this soap opera stuff over the years, they have a lot to fit into a 2hr movie, so any tug of war between GS and MJ for Pete's affections could just play out like SM3 if tehy don't have much time to deal with it.
But, I would like him to be in a different set of circumstances with MJ, maybe like the comics during the original Hobgoblin era when MJ knows Pete's secret but tehy are not together and things are a little hazy, and even a little uncomfortable, on where they stand with each other, even though they are technically friends.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I think Byrce needs to be back to make up for the screen time. Otherwise it will be a pretty short film if it's just two villains and no supporting characters.

 

[Golgo-13]

I hope we get another love interest for Pete. I'm really tied of him being so dopey over MJ 24/7.

Bring in Felicia Hardy.

 

[Agent Z]

I just hope Banks comes back as Betty. I need my Betty.

As we are talking about wants with characters, let's also talk about trends we want that are different from the trilogy, as in possibly letting Spider-Man keep his mask on throughout the climax of the film this fourth time around.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ I'm thikning she'll back. Though, Banks said she'd come back only if she gets a bigger role. That's kind of a stupid reason, IMO. I mean, she's still playing an important role.

 

[NinjaCarm]

Maybe this whole New York crap means it will be a big showdown between Spider-Man, Lizard, and Kraven at the Statue of Liberty.

 

[Venom'sDad]

We already know who Dr. Connors is and what he does. The focus should be on Kraven, buliding a story for him and molding into Spider-Man's/The Lizards life. Should make for an exciting movie if thats the villains.

I disagree... the focus needs to be one Connors/Lizard. That's the real story. Kraven does not need any backstory or special characterization. He just need to be setup and allowed to convey his motivations. There is nothing diabolical in Kraven other than hanging a specimen on the wall.

I never knew the New York sewers could be taken to such a deep level.

LOL... not at all FaTs. The point is NY is known in the movie genra for it Subways, Sewers, and Tunnels. There is no other city in the world, that's a better place for using that backdrop than New York City. And I think that's what he meant when he said that we would appreciate the villain/backdrop... it's so New York.

Whem film companies scout locations for that type of backdrop, beit horror, suspense & thriller, action(like Die-Hard), crime murder mystery, love story, or a portal to fantasy... they come to NYC. They don't go to LA. LA is flat, They don't go to Chicago, Chicago subs are mostly above ground and sewers are very narrow. The same can be said for Philly and ATL. So I just think he's sending signals out that filming will be entirily done in NYC, compared to previous films that was shot in multiple location. This film will have a definite New York feel to it.

And, if I may add, New York is regularly referred to as a "Concrete Jungle" which set up well for the modern hunt. The American version of Godzilla, Cloverfield, Ghostbusters, Die-Hard 3&4 Bruce Willies on the hunt, and many other films comes to mind, where the title character, hero, or military is tracking someone or something. That's all I'm saying.

I think the only smartass comment he ever made was to Bone Saw McGraw and that before he officially became Spider-man.

Also, he gots some digs in, while fighting Harry in SM3 and that was after he got the Symbiote. So we have yet to get any good antagonizing, smartass comments from him just as Spiderman.

 

[JerseyJoker]

Thats the only thing i think really is missing from the character, is those smart ass comments, talking so much that it throws the villain off.

Thats why i still feel that they need to start a film off with a minor villain robbing a bank or something, someone like Shocker, where you can start the movie off with a bang, have a fun and light action/fight scene and display that comic wit of Spidey.

 

[Agent Z]

^^ I'm thikning she'll back. Though, Banks said she'd come back only if she gets a bigger role. That's kind of a stupid reason, IMO. I mean, she's still playing an important role.

Part of the beauty of her limited role/character is that she works best in small doses. The mystery/potential of the Brant/Parker relationship is better than the exploration of it.

Just because Banks doesn't get a lot of screen time doesn't lessen the impact her character has on the audience. Doesn't everyone, even critics of SM3 still cite Banks' bit with Jameson's pills as one of their favorite scenes?

Quality over quantity. I hope Banks remembers that.

 

[JerseyJoker]

Hopefully Banks doesn't get to into that whole, shes a bigger name now then she was in 2002, so she deserves more. Cause even though her role is minimal, its important, and anytime they are in the Daily Bugle you have to see Betty Brant.

That's why im hoping for maybe a battle to take place in the Bugle, it could involve her a bit more.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I say give her the screen time... it doesn't need to be a fling with Parker, but give her more meat if you can and it doesn't detract from the story. It's times like this you wish the kept Eddie Brock around so that you could have more material to work with.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Whooo....

Love Kirsten Dunst! t:

That is all...

 

[NewYorkSpider]

I disagree... the focus needs to be one Connors/Lizard. That's the real story. Kraven does not need any backstory or special characterization. He just need to be setup and allowed to convey his motivations. There is nothing diabolical in Kraven other than hanging a specimen on the wall.

I wasn't saying the main focus needs to be Kraven. I'm saying builiding a story for Kraven should be an important aspect of the movie. Do you want his character to get no screen time and end up like Sandman's/Venom's?. I agree that the focus should be Connors/Lizard in this movie since he's the bigger villain here. I'm just saying Kraven getting some screen time should be a priority.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Part of the beauty of her limited role/character is that she works best in small doses. The mystery/potential of the Brant/Parker relationship is better than the exploration of it.

Very well said!

 

[protocida]

Since Columbia forced Gwen into the franchise, at least give her an decent ending.

 

[Adrian89]

^^ I'm thikning she'll back. Though, Banks said she'd come back only if she gets a bigger role. That's kind of a stupid reason, IMO. I mean, she's still playing an important role.

I don't think it's a stupid reason, I rather see more of her instead of Drama Queen Dunst!

 

[Venom'sDad]

I wasn't saying the main focus needs to be Kraven. I'm saying builiding a story for Kraven should be an important aspect of the movie. Do you want his character to get no screen time and end up like Sandman's/Venom's?. I agree that the focus should be Connors/Lizard in this movie since he's the bigger villain here. I'm just saying Kraven getting some screen time should be a priority.

Well I for one, much like yourself, hopes Kraven gets plenty of screen time; and I think he will if they follow the plot that many of us think it should follow.

Neitherless, I just don't believe his backstory needs to be all that involved. I hate bringing up Batman in a Spiderman board, but the way Joker just was, is how I see Kraven being as well... and that's all I'm saying. Give him room to setup and convey his motivations... I don't need to get to know him or his past.

Now if the story was about him and he's the main focus... than yes we need those other qualities; but not as the sub-plot.

 

[dark_b]

Hopefully Banks doesn't get to into that whole, shes a bigger name now then she was in 2002, so she deserves more. Cause even though her role is minimal, its important, and anytime they are in the Daily Bugle you have to see Betty Brant.

That's why im hoping for maybe a battle to take place in the Bugle, it could involve her a bit more.

since it got boring that MJ was saved all the time. lets make a scene where spiderman must save Betty

 

[Golgo-13]

Why does Spidey HAVE to save a girl during the final battle anyway? Can't he be just saving the city, or some randomn ppl? If he has to save a female at the end of 4, make it Aunt May this time. I'm tired of seeing MJ caught up in the mix.

 

[venom892]

He already saved Aunt May in 2.I would like peter you know to save the city without having some other motive.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Why does Spidey HAVE to save a girl during the final battle anyway? Can't he be just saving the city, or some randomn ppl? If he has to save a female at the end of 4, make it Aunt May this time. I'm tired of seeing MJ caught up in the mix.

How about members of the Bugle get kidnapped or something? Or more likely... Connor's wife or kid. That would work.

 

[protocida]

MJ in one spot. Gwen in another and Betty in another.

 

[zeptron]

If they use Scorpion then he would have to save JJJ.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Connor's wife or kid. That would work.

If Lizard is in the film, that's what I'm thinking they will do.

 

[Dog Logan]

I really don't care for anymore hostage situations, I'd prefer a bigger group of people to be in danger.