Ant-Man Edgar Wright's Ant-Man

[MadVillainy]

I would imagine, if the rumor is true, the whole idea of a past and present storyline with 2 different Ant Mans

 

[Daniel Thompson]

But Superman is totally different. First of all in my opinion its much harder to do DC characters because of all the endless timelines we have going on. Second of all, Superman is a very difficult character to do right in the first place. Sure the classic two Donner films were great, but those were the first Superhero movies. Ever since him, no ones managed to get Superman right, plus he's invincible and he's a perfect alien, its kind of hard to relate to him. After the success of the Avengers, I'm sure if Marvel prioritized it, they could make it happen.

Anyway Hank Pym was mentioned in the scripts for Thor so I wouldnt be surprised if he becomes a second string character like Black Widow or Hawkeye in Avengers 2.

I cannot see Superman working well in the marvel universe.

 

[HighFivingMF]

But Superman is totally different. First of all in my opinion its much harder to do DC characters because of all the endless timelines we have going on. Second of all, Superman is a very difficult character to do right in the first place. Sure the classic two Donner films were great, but those were the first Superhero movies. Ever since him, no ones managed to get Superman right, plus he's invincible and he's a perfect alien, its kind of hard to relate to him. After the success of the Avengers, I'm sure if Marvel prioritized it, they could make it happen.

Anyway Hank Pym was mentioned in the scripts for Thor so I wouldnt be surprised if he becomes a second string character like Black Widow or Hawkeye in Avengers 2.

That's not very related to what I said. In short: Marvel lucked out getting Wright interested in Ant-Man, the odds of finding another director of that caliber interested are so small that only Ant-Man could see them. Like I said, I like Ant-Man. But it's a silly concept that not a lot of people would be interested in.

 

[chiefchirpa]

Ant Man is not just about changing body mass. If Marvel Studio will emphasize more on the bio chemical inventions and less on the size changing feat, say hi to another sequel.

Wright's first draft might be heavy on the "Honey I shrunk the kid" moment with Scott Lang as the star, but the current third draft has to be less about it and more about Pym the Supreme Scientist.

 

[cherokeesam]

I would imagine, if the rumor is true, the whole idea of a past and present storyline with 2 different Ant Mans

Yeah, I'd be willing to bet that Feige tried to steer Wright and Cornish into making Hank Pym central to the story (the "true" Ant-Man) rather than Scott Lang, as the early draft showed.

I gotta admit, though, the original Cornish concept has grown on me over the years, with one exception: I think the 60s are wayyyy too far back to put Hank Pym. That makes him easily in his 70s today, probably older than that.

*If* they insist on doing an old Pym + young Lang mentor-padawan story, I think it'd work much better if they put Pym's backstory in the 1980s. That way you've still got a Cold War backdrop, but in the Reagan/Gorbachev era, instead of the Kennedy/Khruschev era. And it puts Hank Pym at a more "manageable" fiftyish age....snap up somebody like George Clooney for that.

I could even see an interesting love triangle develop with Janet Van Dyne between Hank Pym and Scott Lang, that would very much mirror the classic fable of Arthur, Guinevere and Lancelot.

 

[BatsDC]

'Rumblings in #Cannes are that @edgarwright's ANT MAN has been greenlit. #rumor'

https://***********/#!/TwitchFilm

 

[cherokeesam]

'Rumblings in #Cannes are that @edgarwright's ANT MAN has been greenlit. #rumor'

https://***********/#!/TwitchFilm

YEAH.

Where are the doubters and naysayers now, baby?!?!

ANT-MAN LIVES

 

[DarkSovereignty]

hell yeah. now simon pegg for leap frog lol.

 

[babykhris]

I still am AGAINST an Ant Man film. Yeah it's cool it will introduce Wasp. And maybe we see the beginning of Ultron, but for the love of god who is the villian? Egghead? I know no one wants to see woman beater Ultimate version Hank Pym.

Sell me on an Ant Man film? Why would anyone want to sit down for 90 minutes to see an Ant Man film? Egghead, Whirlwind and Black Knight as villians don't wow me.

 

[kurac]

you mean 120 minutes??

 

[flickchick85]

Not gonna lie, I'll be majorly disappointed if the mystery 2014 MCU flick turns out to be Ant-Man, just because there are so many characters I'd rather see added to the MCU for TA2 than the Pyms. That said, I'd look forward to seeing what Edgar Wright does with the movie anyway, because Edgar Wright's a genius, imo, and the thought of him doing a superhero movie is very exciting to me.

 

[babykhris]

Changed my mind I've found a way to make Ant-Man interesting. I remember on an episode of AEMH Ant-Man fought Klaw who was working with Man-Ape. The Ant-Man film could be a way to introduce Black Panther.

 

[BatsDC]

I'd be worried about Ant-Man if Edgar wright wasn't behind it. If he wasn't, I think Marvel would just introduce him in an Avengers film. Edgar must have something good.

 

[cherokeesam]

I still am AGAINST an Ant Man film. Yeah it's cool it will introduce Wasp. And maybe we see the beginning of Ultron, but for the love of god who is the villian? Egghead? I know no one wants to see woman beater Ultimate version Hank Pym.

Sell me on an Ant Man film? Why would anyone want to sit down for 90 minutes to see an Ant Man film? Egghead, Whirlwind and Black Knight as villians don't wow me.

Why would it be the "beginnings" of Ultron? Why not just make Ultron the villain?

Here's what I see happening, based on the earlier script rumors, and based on how I see them incorporating it into Avengers 2:

Hank Pym is a brilliant scientist/inventor who developed Pym Particles back in the 1980s during the Cold War, and developed the Ant-Man suit. But when SHIELD tried to bring him in, Pym got disgusted with the government and the spycraft and dropped out to become a recluse.

Fast forward to 2012...er, 2014. Scott Lang is a desperate man whose daughter is dying of an incurable disease. Lang resorts to burglary to make a living to try to get enough money to pay for the medicine to save his daughter's life. One of the houses he turns over is actually Pym's, and Lang actually steals the Ant-Man suit, with no idea what it is or what it does. Pym actually witnesses the burglary, but lets Lang go, admiring his chutzpah and wondering what Lang will do with the suit.

Meanwhile, Pym has started researching his Pym Particles again after a 30 year hiatus, and has made a breakthrough in reversing the reduction process. He can now theoretically *grow* --- to gigantic sizes. Pym is also dabbling in robotics, and has created the protoype for a robot that has incredibly impressive AI. He dubs the robot "Ultron."

Ultron pops up on SHIELD's radar. (Possibly from some sort of attack that Pym doesn't know about, or denies.) Fury sends out one of his top agents, Janet Van Dyne, to recover Ultron. But VanDyne is brought up short when she finds Pym looming over her --- FIFTY FEET over her. "Giant-Man" puts the beat down on Janet, hard, and things don't look good --- until something happens. Giant-Man starts spazzing out, smacking at himself, like he's being attacked by some stinging insect --- which he is. LOTS of insects. Great swarms of ants bring the colossus down...

Janet is surprised to see her rescuer almost magically appear before her in a funky red suit with a silver helmet. His name is Scott Lang, and he promises to get her to safety from giant Pym --- but she's going to have to trust him. She doesn't have much choice, so Lang gives her a strange green gas to breathe --- and she suddenly starts shrinking....

From there, the story develops into a love affair between Scott Lang and Janet Van Dyne. Pym is initially seen as a bad guy by them, and by SHIELD, but eventually, as Ultron grows more powerful and more deadly, they realize that Pym is the only one who can help them defeat the robot. The crisis reaches breaking point when Ultron breaks into Pym's particle research, and is able to grow himself to giant size as well. Pym allies with Ant-Man (Lang) and does some modifications on a tiny Janet Van Dyne to make her the Wasp, and together, Giant-Man, Ant-Man and Wasp go toe to toe with a giant evil robot in the middle of downtown Manhattan....

....or something like that.

 

[BatsDC]

I hope if they do have Scott in it as well as Pym, Pym is still alive and able to be Ant MAn/Giant Man in The Avengers 2.

 

[Dark Raven]

Why would it be the "beginnings" of Ultron? Why not just make Ultron the villain?

Here's what I see happening, based on the earlier script rumors, and based on how I see them incorporating it into Avengers 2:

Hank Pym is a brilliant scientist/inventor who developed Pym Particles back in the 1980s during the Cold War, and developed the Ant-Man suit. But when SHIELD tried to bring him in, Pym got disgusted with the government and the spycraft and dropped out to become a recluse.

Fast forward to 2012...er, 2014. Scott Lang is a desperate man whose daughter is dying of an incurable disease. Lang resorts to burglary to make a living to try to get enough money to pay for the medicine to save his daughter's life. One of the houses he turns over is actually Pym's, and Lang actually steals the Ant-Man suit, with no idea what it is or what it does. Pym actually witnesses the burglary, but lets Lang go, admiring his chutzpah and wondering what Lang will do with the suit.

Meanwhile, Pym has started researching his Pym Particles again after a 30 year hiatus, and has made a breakthrough in reversing the reduction process. He can now theoretically *grow* --- to gigantic sizes. Pym is also dabbling in robotics, and has created the protoype for a robot that has incredibly impressive AI. He dubs the robot "Ultron."

Ultron pops up on SHIELD's radar. (Possibly from some sort of attack that Pym doesn't know about, or denies.) Fury sends out one of his top agents, Janet Van Dyne, to recover Ultron. But VanDyne is brought up short when she finds Pym looming over her --- FIFTY FEET over her. "Giant-Man" puts the beat down on Janet, hard, and things don't look good --- until something happens. Giant-Man starts spazzing out, smacking at himself, like he's being attacked by some stinging insect --- which he is. LOTS of insects. Great swarms of ants bring the colossus down...

Janet is surprised to see her rescuer almost magically appear before her in a funky red suit with a silver helmet. His name is Scott Lang, and he promises to get her to safety from giant Pym --- but she's going to have to trust him. She doesn't have much choice, so Lang gives her a strange green gas to breathe --- and she suddenly starts shrinking....

From there, the story develops into a love affair between Scott Lang and Janet Van Dyne. Pym is initially seen as a bad guy by them, and by SHIELD, but eventually, as Ultron grows more powerful and more deadly, they realize that Pym is the only one who can help them defeat the robot. The crisis reaches breaking point when Ultron breaks into Pym's particle research, and is able to grow himself to giant size as well. Pym allies with Ant-Man (Lang) and does some modifications on a tiny Janet Van Dyne to make her the Wasp, and together, Giant-Man, Ant-Man and Wasp go toe to toe with a giant evil robot in the middle of downtown Manhattan....

....or something like that.

Sacrilege! Scott Lang and Janet having an affair? Pym as the initial bad guy?

I would rather have Pym be the one make Janet the Wasp, not Scott. I would rather Wright just skips Lang and concentrates on Pym.

 

[MarvelKnight]

This news is all well and good, but I'll still only believe it when I see it.

 

[babykhris]

I can't see Ultron as the villain in an Ant Man film, so out of these names who is the better villain.

KLAW
Egghead
Whirlwind


Who would you want to see cameo in the film?

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I have maintained all along that this has potential to be a really fun, engaging adventure flick. Sort of a pulpy two-fisted scientist feel with awesome shrinking/growth fx and a hopefully funny and exciting script. All of that is right up EW's alley.

 

[Dark Raven]

I can't see Ultron as the villain in an Ant Man film, so out of these names who is the better villain.

KLAW
Egghead
Whirlwind


Who would you want to see cameo in the film?

Whirlwind should be a villain that Jan has to deal with, potentially separate from the main plot originally. Maybe he ties in later to the big story.

I think Klaw as the villain should be saved for a Black Panther movie, since he's T'Challa's arch nemesis.

Taskmaster could be a villain. He first came up against Hank, Jan and Scott when he made his debut in the Avengers. He doesn't have to be the main one either, but someone who trains other villains, leading to a bigger conspiracy plot. Perhaps he could be instrumental in helping someone (eg Baron Zemo) in training operatives to form a Masters of Evil, leading eventually to Fury calling upon the Avengers again to combat a superteam in Avengers 2.

 

[Venom 1988]

M.O.D.O.K. and A.I.M.?

 

[chiefchirpa]

Modok and AIM are the best choices. AIM should be Ant-Man goon squads like Hydra to Captain America.

 

[metaphysician]

Ultron shouldn't be the villain of an Ant-Man movie, because it would be a serious nerf to one of the best Avengers villains ever. Go ahead and have Hank create Ultron, but save actually *fighting* Ultron for Avengers.

And, I should say that, as skeptical as I am of Ant-Man, unless the trailers were awful, I'd still go see it. Marvel has earned my trust.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I kind of hope this is greenlit now. This can be good

 

[roach]

Ultron shouldn't be the villain of an Ant-Man movie, because it would be a serious nerf to one of the best Avengers villains ever. Go ahead and have Hank create Ultron, but save actually *fighting* Ultron for Avengers.

And, I should say that, as skeptical as I am of Ant-Man, unless the trailers were awful, I'd still go see it. Marvel has earned my trust.

which is generally when people do something to lose it

In Avengers I was hoping phase 2 was Ultron