Elfman is Working on the Music

[Visionary]

BTW, what year is Supes' sequel suppose to come out?

 

[spider-neil]

So do I. Elfman's music is all over the place, like he scored the scene without looking at what's on the screen.

exactly, the top one takes it's cues from the action the bottom one seems erratic and is following it's own cues.

not an elfman hater myself I'm just disappointed he didn't make a more memorable spidey theme.
superman's theme is spot on and screams superman for me spider-man's movie theme is not distinct enough as spidey

for me the spidey theme is still 'spider-man spider-man does whatever a spider can' and if you ask the average guy on the street to hum spider-man's theme tune I bet they hum the 60's tune rather than the movie theme.

 

[Visionary]

I've never really been into the whole..."make the theme music memorable." I just want music that fit every scene perfectly, music that enhances what you're seeing on the screen. However, hire the right composer and you can have both. But it's too late for changing the main theme now, unfortunately.

 

[spider-neil]

I've never really been into the whole..."make the theme music memorable." I just want music that fit every scene perfectly, music that enhances what you're seeing on the screen. However, hire the right composer and you can have both. But it's too late for changing the main theme now, unfortunately.

I want good music as well but spidey's main theme should at least stick in the mind, and to be fair it does now but only because of repeatedly watching the movies.

the first time I heard the 60's theme tune it stuck.

 

[rashad]

no offence but I perfer the movie train sequence theme (top one) to the elfman theme (bottom one)

I agree, I liked Chris Young's score for that scene better. It complemented the scene really well. Elfman's score was nice but it didn't match the action during the sequence imo.

 

[Visionary]

I want good music as well but spidey's main theme should at least stick in the mind, and to be fair it does now but only because of repeatedly watching the movies.

the first time I heard the 60's theme tune it stuck.

I completely understand what you're saying. The first thing I would have made sure of before hiring a composer for Spidey is, not to hire the two composers for Bats or Supes. This way you at least get a totally different sound for another big superhero film. A memorable MAIN THEME is not easy to come up with, period, especially when you've scored so many movies of the same genre like Elfman--that's one of his biggest mistakes as a composer.

 

[Catman]

BTW, what year is Supes' sequel suppose to come out?

2009

 

[Visionary]

Then I think Singer has to be attached, they've only got two years to make the film, he's probably working on it as I post this.

 

[spider-neil]

I completely understand what you're saying. The first thing I would have made sure of before hiring a composer for Spidey is, not to hire the two composers for Bats or Supes. This way you at least get a totally different sound for another big superhero film. A memorable MAIN THEME is not easy to come up with, period, especially when you've scored so many movies of the same genre like Elfman--that's one of his biggest mistakes as a composer.

william's seems to do it with ease

superman
star wars
raiders
et
and most recently harry potter
you hear the open beat and you immediately know what movie it is.

oh well too late now.
I think it's ironic that in both movies you've had a busker singing the 60's tune and because it's so recognisable you always get a laugh from the audience, if the movie is remade in 20 years time do you think the same thing could be done with elfman's theme?

do - do do do do - do do do...
do - do do do do - DO DO DO!!!!

or

do do do - do do do - do do do do do do do do

hum the above and the public would be able to tell you the tune now try it with spidey's movie theme

 

[Spider-Girl™]

I think I am the only person in this thread that thinks the movie theme is good. I know when it comes on that it's gonna be Spidey right off the bat. No pun intended. I also think Young isn't gonna fail us in '3' either.

 

[Visionary]

william's seems to do it with ease

superman
star wars
raiders
et
and most recently harry potter
you hear the open beat and you immediately know what movie it is.

oh well too late now.
I think it's ironic that in both movies you've had a busker singing the 60's tune and because it's so recognisable you always get a laugh from the audience, if the movie is remade in 20 years time do you think the same thing could be done with elfman's theme?

do - do do do do - do do do...
do - do do do do - DO DO DO!!!!

or

do do do - do do do - do do do do do do do do

hum the above and the public would be able to tell you the tune now try it with spidey's movie theme

John Williams is the master and king of memorable movie themes, no doubt about it, don't forget JAWS.

 

[Mr Jide]

Harry Gregson Williams should have scored the spidey movies from the get go.

 

[DACrowe]

Why?

I loved his KOH score but his other stuff, has been boring. Take Narnia, similar to Spidey and completely forgettable and less distinguishable than Spidey.

The main theme is not as epic as Elfman's Batman score (which is much better than Howard's, though I still like BB's music) or Williams' iconic Superman score, but it wasn't trying to be.

It was underscoring the character. And while it is not perfect it is good and I think his score for Peter Parker NAILS him. The sad mournful Parker theme is one of the best aspects of the movies. I also think GG has a great score and you realize it even more in the second when Harry finds the lair and it comes up and the sound is so menacing and good to hear again (like you missed it without knowing it).

I also really liked how he scored the ending of SM2 (especially when Peter swings away from MJ at the docks thinking he is leaving her).

Not Superman's level or his Batman scores but still very good and better than any other comic book movie score today.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Why don't you guys like elfmans music in the spidey movies. I love his music and I will never complain about it, I find elfman more talented than young because his music has an extra touch to it that blows you away whenever theres and action sequence or an emotional scene. sure young is good but is he good at making the music intense? not entirley which is something elfman does perfectley.

 

[Sentinel X]

I hate to rain on everyone's party, but to the contrary, a recent interview with Christopher Young doesn't indicate Elfman is working on Spider-Man 3 at all, which means Curtis either lied or was misinformed. In the interview (he is being interviewed about both Ghost Rider and Spider-Man 3), he says that he is keeping three of Elfman's themes: 1) the heroic Spider-Man theme, 2) the Green Goblin theme to represent Harry Osbourne taking over his father's role and 3) the "fate" theme that was in the second movie. Everything else, including Sandman, Venom, the black symbiote, etc. will have new themes composed by Young.

Read the interview here. It was posted two days ago, so it's pretty recent. The mods can lock this up now, because it's clear Elfman isn't co-composing or doing new themes for the third film.

OH NO!!
Why?? I was really anticipating Elfman's take on Venom
The only part I liked from Young was the scene of Ock's lab accident

 

[Naite22]

BTW, what year is Supes' sequel suppose to come out?

2009...why???

 

[Visionary]

Elfman is horrible at scoring action sequence scenes, that's when he lacks intensity the most (listen to the music where Peter is running in the alley and jumps on the wall, after Uncle Ben is shot). Elfman lacks dramatic flair in his work. I'm glad he's not scoring Venom, the symbiote and Sandman's theme. Young got his start from horror movies, which is perfect for the presence and mood of the symbiote/symbiote Spidey and Venom--not to mention that belltower scene. The last thing I want to hear is music that's suppose to be obscure and dramatic, sounding light and whimsical, like the march of a 100 ballerinas--with flutes and the clashing of garbage can lids.

 

[Catman]

I think I am the only person in this thread that thinks the movie theme is good.

You're not.

The main theme is not as epic as Elfman's Batman score (which is much better than Howard's, though I still like BB's music) or Williams' iconic Superman score, but it wasn't trying to be.

It was underscoring the character. And while it is not perfect it is good and I think his score for Peter Parker NAILS him. The sad mournful Parker theme is one of the best aspects of the movies. I also think GG has a great score and you realize it even more in the second when Harry finds the lair and it comes up and the sound is so menacing and good to hear again (like you missed it without knowing it).

I also really liked how he scored the ending of SM2 (especially when Peter swings away from MJ at the docks thinking he is leaving her).

Not Superman's level or his Batman scores but still very good and better than any other comic book movie score today.

Agreed.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I think I am the only person in this thread that thinks the movie theme is good. I know when it comes on that it's gonna be Spidey right off the bat. No pun intended. I also think Young isn't gonna fail us in '3' either.

I love the movie theme so your not alone.

 

[spider-neil]

I thought the clock tower/train sequence theme was excellent and was thinking elfman did a great job turns out young wrote the theme for that, LOL!t:

 

[Visionary]

Like I said, I'm happy Young is handling Sandman, The Symbiote and Venom's theme music.

 

[spider-neil]

Like I said, I'm happy Young is handling Sandman, The Symbiote and Venom's theme music.

did you watch the making of the hulk where elfman is talking about his relationship with ang lee. he basically says ang lee was constantly telling him 'too elfman, too elfman' so he was challenged to make different sounding music to his usual themes. anyone who says spidey's theme sounds nothing like batman's theme is deluded.

 

[Visionary]

Yeah, that's a shame. Lee didn't want him scoring Hulk, but the studio knew Elfman had scored other big comic book films, so they demanded him. It's a shame when a director has to tell you..."do anything but you usual trite stuff."

 

[Secret_Riddle]

I wouldnt go as far as saying there deluded, the themes just represent totally diff characters in most peoples minds and so they come off as different.

 

[spider-neil]

I wouldnt go as far as saying there deluded, the themes just represent totally diff characters in most peoples minds and so they come off as different.

I'm sorry about using the word deluded that was uncalled for