Episode 05 - "Hiros" - Discussion Thread

Knives122 said:
Sylar may be like Rogue though(taking peoples brains and having what seems to be a lot of powers). And from what peter finished in the picture, Sylar will be killing Claire, taking her powers then blowing up NY.

Sylar is the antithesis of Peter...whereas Peter can mimic other's ability for a short period, and Sylar "steals" their ability by "eating" their brains, and permanently acquiring the abilities, thus making him stronger. The danger of him getting Claire's ability is that he will be able to re-gen, and with all his stolen powers, he would be a god. It's going to be interesting if common knowledge of these individuals becomes common knowledge or not. As for Nathan...the guy doesn't add up at this point. Here's the thing...HE CAN FLY SUPERSONIC, and he's got a ego the size of the sun...he just seems a bit non-chalant about his ability...A flying freak would wield far more power than a simple congressman...imho.
 
blksuperman2 said:
Awesome episode. I like how everything is coming together. I really could care less about the cop who can read minds. He's the only character that seems removed from the others.
interestingly enough ;)
 
Hiruu said:
Sylar is the antithesis of Peter...whereas Peter can mimic other's ability for a short period, and Sylar "steals" their ability by "eating" their brains, and permanently acquiring the abilities, thus making him stronger. The danger of him getting Claire's ability is that he will be able to re-gen, and with all his stolen powers, he would be a god. It's going to be interesting if common knowledge of these individuals becomes common knowledge or not. As for Nathan...the guy doesn't add up at this point. Here's the thing...HE CAN FLY SUPERSONIC, and he's got a ego the size of the sun...he just seems a bit non-chalant about his ability...A flying freak would wield far more power than a simple congressman...imho.
unless you're a congressman who wants to make even bigger impacts than his father before him

besides, we don't know a lot about Nathan yet
 
I feel so bad for the Cop. Man all the people thinking he would hold up the store.

Nathan=My new favorite character, then comes Peter, then Hiro.

LOL the other asian guy at Nikis house. OMFG amazing.

I wonder what "scar" Peter gets.
 
PLAS said:
unless you're a congressman who wants to make even bigger impacts than his father before him

besides, we don't know a lot about Nathan yet

has anyone here read Deus Ex Machina? The whole Nathan plotline almost seems to echo a lot of themes that are covered there.
 
Mechanix1992 said:
I feel so bad for the Cop. Man all the people thinking he would hold up the store.

Nathan=My new favorite character, then comes Peter, then Hiro.

LOL the other asian guy at Nikis house. OMFG amazing.

I wonder what "scar" Peter gets.

Im going to take a wild guess and say that the thing with four arms going after Claire like cuts him or something. One problem with the ep though. Why doesn't anyone question why Claire heels up so quick?
 
I can't wait until the episode in the future where Hiro goes BACK in time to talk to Peter...
 
I dont think peter will get a scar if they change the future.
 
The Apocalypse said:
Im going to take a wild guess and say that the thing with four arms going after Claire like cuts him or something. One problem with the ep though. Why doesn't anyone question why Claire heels up so quick?

her dad using tuvak to mindwipe everybody and cover it up.
 
Just caught the episode on NBC.com (where it seemed to lag like crazy and was chopped into 6 parts, all of which starting with the same damned car commercial). I'm not sure why NBC is offering the episodes of a hot show for free a day later on their official website; logic would state that it would effect TV ratings if fans knew they could just watch it any time after Monday on the website. But fortunately TV viewers rarely show any logic as ratings seem to be up 10% from there already healthy numbers. HEROES is a hit. Perhaps the "official" online offerings are done deliberately so that "unofficial" DL's like BitTorrent and especially YouTube don't take a bite. And also probably to maintain the buzz.

So, is the show that Jay Leno just described as, "The X-Men crossed with the X-Men" still hot by episode #5?

For me, yes.

Sure, HEROES isn't perfect. It's full of generic TV stereotypes and some plot issues if you want to go looking for them, but as a whole for me it manages to hook you along without revealing too much, but each episode at least feels like something worthwhile is accomplished; some serials can't balence between "suspenceful leading" and "decompressed plodding". Hell, a lot of comics can't manage that.

The episode gets off with a bang when Peter meets "Future Hiro", who, like Trunks, is cooler in the future than he is in the present, who decides to risk shattering the time continuum to give Peter some "plot device" clues to help him along. Then Nathan is dragged out from his night with "Were-Nikki" by Mr. Bennet and his apparently psychic (and speachless) black minion, when he is surprisingly able to punch free and then fly off...at seemingly sonic speeds. Matt, who was "wiped clean" by Mr. Bennet's helper after his fight with Syler, returns home to his wife with no memory of the past day, but using his telepathy to read all her wants and fulfll them to the letter; I can imagine every wife in the audience now wants a psychic husband with a pension. ;) Matt leaves to get ice-cream after a "reconcile", only to use his powers to dissuade a gunman from robbing the store, before passing out from "overload" after he is confused for the robber himself. Claire tells her scary father about her incident, after which Bennet has his man-slave (what? That's what the guy is! Toldja about stereotypes) render the jock an amnesiac. Mohinder doesn't belive Peter's story, but Peter investigates the lead anyway, meeting up with Isaac and "copying" his power (without the use of heroin, natch) to finish one of his paintings which seems to fortell Claire's death at the hands of Syler. Nikki goes about her usual schtick and finds out her crook husband D.L. has escaped prison. Hiro and his buddy split up, with Hiro getting to meet Nathan while the latter has a run in with the cops protecting Nikki. At the end, Peter is there to intercept one of Hiro's calls to Isaac to deliver a message. And Nathan is told by Nikki of the mobster's plan to bankroll and then blackmail them, and uses that to his advantage to get more money; seemingly not caring about becoming a "bought" Congressman.

Oh, and Peter's eyes turn all white like CHILDREN OF THE CORN when he uses Isaac's "Future-Paint" power.

Considering that flight by itself is often depicted as rather useless in comic books (hence why Angel usually has stunk without metal wings), HEROES manages to make it look quite cool with their first opening scenes, which is a worthy effort. Peter being an "omni-power" works well for the plot (as that power often does), and the theory that Syler may be simular is also a good one; he obviously will have to be powerful enough to fight many "heroes" at once. Out of all of them I still don't care much for Nikki and Claire, but I don't hate them and their storylines are improving. Out of all of them, Nathan still seems like the one who is least "heroic" in that pure, noble sense. He's more interested in his own ambition and interests while the others are either confused (Claire, originally Peter), eager to do something positive (Matt, Hiro, Peter, Isaac), or want to be positive but had to work out of manipulation, which is Nikki. While the female characters of HEROES have gotten the more "physical" powers classically given to male characters (regeneration, an enhanced "alter ego"), the male characters are still more assertive in their storylines, as Nikki & Claire are mostly in "reaction" mode.

The "save the cheerleader, save the world" bit was a little heavy handed thanks to the promos, but that's a minor quibble. I can see that with the characters starting to intertwine and mobilize, their stories won't be as fragmented, which is good. Hopefully the season finale has a payoff and doesn't just rely on endless cliffhangers. But that's a few weeks away.
 
The Apocalypse said:
Why doesn't anyone question why Claire heels up so quick?

maybe the Dad's assistant is taking out that memory out of the doctors minds? since he already knew she has powers due to the tape. could be a possiblity
 
sc12een17am3 said:
maybe the Dad's assistant is taking out that memory out of the doctors minds? since he already knew she has powers due to the tape. could be a possiblity
Ooh, interesting point.

I'm also interested to see what happens to Brody now that he's been "hollowed out".
 
Mechanix1992 said:
I wonder what "scar" Peter gets.

It must be in the face. Maybe he tries to fly without having his brother nearby.
 
I dont think we will see much of Brody - he is no longer Brody, he is an empty shell. I am wondering what happened to Matt though, he is perfectly normal now...how does that happen?
 
Hollow-man must be able to control how much he hollows out a person. For Matt it was 24 hrs for brody it was years.
 
Something I didn't see mentioned yet...

When Mr. Mean-Dad and Mr. You-Can't-Use-Your-Powers-Around-Me were about to tackle Nathan again, I was thinking to myself "Ohhh!! He's gonna fly away!!"

"But wait! He won't be able to use his powers with Mr. YCUYP there..."

and then ZOOM!! Off goes Nathan.

Which makes me think...how long has Nathan been doing this? He's apparently much farther along with learning to control and focus his ability if he can use it with Mr. YCUYP there...



Here's another strange thought.....Could Ando be Sylar??

Either way, I have a feeling SOMETHING wrong is going to happen to Ando that makes Hiro go from Happy-Go-Lucky to what he was in the future. Future Hiro's been though some #$@*.


This show is amazing.
 
imdaly said:
Mr. You-Can't-Use-Your-Powers-Around-Me

I can only recall him preventing Matt from reading his mind. That doesn't mean he can supress everyone's power, just that he can do mental blocks. Was there a time he prevented someone else's power I'm forgetting??
 
Tyrinus said:
I can only recall him preventing Matt from reading his mind. That doesn't mean he can supress everyone's power, just that he can do mental blocks. Was there a time he prevented someone else's power I'm forgetting??

Hmm...you're probably right.


I guess I always just saw him as more of a power-blocker than a mental-blocker...but I suppose mental-blocker works more hand-in-hand with his memory-wiping power.
 
I want to know if Peter can take on multiple powers at once, or if he can just manage to mimic one at a time.
 
This show is on the top of my list now, it's removed Lost and Smallville from their top spot.

I lol'ed as sylar moved back the curtain, I just KNEW that guy would be there because of what he said to brody. that was a great scene.

that cop is really making me want to be telepathic. Finally, someone real who has that power and does things a human being would with it. But I think when his wife finds out, she'll be really pissed about him "invading" her privacy, but I don't think she should be.

How freaking awesome was that scene when Peter started drawing?! The way they built it up was perfect, with him starring at the picture, just wishing it could be completed. and the effects, they really put us in his seat.

At the end, I was so glad Hiro finally got through, and when he said his name "Hiro" (Peter already met his future counterpart), I knew the connection was complete.

what's the deal with nikki anyway? Does her counterpart have super strength or something? What exactly are the powers of her other self other than being a ***** and a ****? Does she have strength, cause she keeps on dropping tough guys like they're nothing.
 
sylar didnt do anything to brody. for the last time neither Mr. Bennett nor his henchman ≠ Sylar
 

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