Supergirl Episode 3.03 "Far From the Tree" (SPOILERS)

[Thome216]

The White Martians were okay, but those kids were so obvious, that's mostly what I was thinking about.

At the end,[BLACKOUT] I wasn't impressed by the car/ship thingy. I did like their interactions with J'onn's father and how Kara connected with him. The fight at the end wasn't all that big, and I wonder how Kara managed to use the staff that way. I would also have liked Myr'nn to see M'gann in GM form, and for him to have remained on Mars. Kara's pointing out that this could be a test from their God, I think should have prompted him to remain and be a religious focal point in the rebel's fight against the BWMs.

I actually enjoyed the Alex/Maggie story-line more than the Martian one. The ending with Maggie and her dad was more real to life, in that you can't get everything, though it did end up being a growing moment for Maggie. I was half expecting a HEA end with him, and was pleasantly surprised.

And clearly, wanting children is the start of their break-point. Alex wants children.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[flickchick85]

Jessica Queller & Derek Simon are just not a great writing combo for this show, imo. Queller does better with other people...Simon less so. But together, they gave us "Welcome to Earth," "Medusa," "Resist" and this. I liked "Medusa" for the Lena stuff, but that's about it. I always seem to find something off-putting/jarring tonally about their eps, it seems.

 

[vantheman77]

We barely knew Reign and yet she and Lena were not in this episode.

The Martian storyline was the A-storyline and Sanvers wedding shower was the B-storyline, but you also need a C-storyline to keep things interesting such as James/ Winn/ Lena/ Reign.

Between the writers of this episode, both Medusa and Resist were the best ones.

 

[Nia]

I really enjoyed this episode. I saw James and Winn at the bridal shower.

Maggie was a series regular last season and I see them giving her the screen time to wrap her story so I don't really see it as a waste although I think there could have been less time devoted to it. But I think it was a good way to show that her desire to not have kids isn't related to her childhood and not something they can easily get past.

P.S.
I honestly didn't realize that Reign wasn't in this episode because I don't know her that well. There are still many more episodes to go. And the CatCo scenes we've gotten this season haven't been that interesting to me so I didn't miss Lena either. I guess it's a matter of taste.

 

[flickchick85]

I guess Kara got over her moral qualms over killing White Martians.

 

[Kelly]

Well, when they hold you over their head ready to tear you a part......that can be pretty mind altering.

 

[Kelly]

We barely knew Reign and yet she and Lena were not in this episode.

The Martian storyline was the A-storyline and Sanvers wedding shower was the B-storyline, but you also need a C-storyline to keep things interesting such as James/ Winn/ Lena/ Reign.

Between the writers of this episode, both Medusa and Resist were the best ones.

I'm glad there wasn't a C storyline, that was my problem with last season.....too much going on. Thank goodness we had just A and B. Had you had a C, we wouldn't have had near the scenes on Mars that we had, and honestly I wanted more. I would have much rather had a BIGGER climax in the Mars story and less time devoted to the shower.

 

[britmotley]

I wish they would drop the liberal speeches

 

[zenith16]

Who is he meant to be?

Was he not J'onn J'onzz in the Justice League cartoon?

yes he was and in the real world I know hyim as Black op's and task force Cia agent/ turned one of their many directors Dixson and out side of that, I seen him guest staring in evey other show since then , like NCIS L.a. the under cover spin off series as a Navy captain that did some mission's with their operation's manager during the cold war that has bit of wild side to him . he's a busy man of an actor.

I for got he was j'onn in justlce league unlimiuted and it's predissessor.

I've said this before I know this show love to show the women side. but I like to see kara and her moments with her dad more. both are important to a kid. I've njoyed her time with her mother regardless.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

I guess Kara got over her moral qualms over killing White Martians.

For all the hell Superman got for killing Zod in "Man of Steel", Supergirl sure does a lot of killing.
Red Tornado, Parasite, the Maaldorian ship, Queen Rhea, three or four White Martians tonight.

 

[flickchick85]

Red Tornado was an android so I wouldn't count that, but yeah. At least w/ Parasite and Rhea she was remorseful about it.

 

[Frodo]

Good episode. Alot more in the spirit of the last two seasons and it was nice to see Carl Lumbly as Jonn's father.

I remember when Lumbly was a superhero himself in the short lived M.A.N.T.I.S tv series from the early to mid 90s.

They even had "It's all been done" by Barenaked Ladies at the shower, which I listed to the Stunts album backwards and forwards back in 1998.

Nice self contained character stories which gave David Harewood and Floriana Lima a chance to shine.

The actor who played Lima's father was good, and I had'nt seen him since Dallas .

 

[Jesse]

I thought this was the strongest episode of the season so far and the parallel family issues were both heartfelt and poignant. My only nitpick is that I felt there could have been a little more superheroing although there was a decent bit of action during the Mars story line it still felt drama heavy which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

 

[Dr.]

Oy. First clunker of the season, imo.

I thought the individual storylines - Alex/Maggie and Mars - were decent enough. (Lima was particularly good.) But the more “meta” criticisms about combining these tonally distinct plots within the same episode or about Kara in a supporting role are probably fair.

I wish they would drop the liberal speeches

I’m kinda surprised that President Marsdin would agree to building a wall.


Also - did anyone notice that Kara made it through almost an entire episode without oxygen (Mars has none)? Is this new info about her level of invulnerability - or just a goof?

 

[shabadoo25]

A total snoozer.

If an ep doesn't feature Kara, wake me up next week.

 

[SSAV]

I gave it an 8 just for the beginning (Kara and Alex scene) and Kara, Alex and J'onn scene and the entire Martian part. Even if Kara didn't do much, somehow just her presence seemed very supportive and powerful to me.

J'onn would have been alone their otherwise, and I don't like the thought. Also, the conversation between Kara and J'onn's dad brought back "For the girl who has everything" (and now that I think about it, the previous episode as well). Because she understands why J'onn's dad is not opening up.

Also. The glimpse into Martian mythology.

The Alex-Maggie; well, Maggie stuff was okay. A bit out of place and boring in this story (because it is Kara's) but I got that they needed to try and make a good show of Sanvers before Maggie leaves and I was expecting it. In any case, the story itself was pretty good (and totally not on Earth 38) and, I didn't mind it as much as I expected.

That talk about the car ride was especially touching.

As for the question about Alex/Maggie from Dr.: I personally didn't like it (still, don't like it) because it reduces Alex-Kara time and Alex's involvement in what is going on in the rest of the story--the main story, and it reduced Alex to just her romance.

I mean, being gay is not just about settling with the first person you date (though it may be that for some); and in any case, being gay is just part of a person. Alex is still the big sister, daughter, DEO Agent/Scientist and they kind of cut time on that.

Still, I am hoping that will reduce after episode 5.

 

[chamber-music]

The #Sanvers shippers are upset because they believe they were led to believe that #Sanvers was end game...Then they hear about contract changes in March, then they hear about Floriana possibly leaving, then the proposal, then Floriana IS leaving after Episode 5....and they feel like it was "queer baiting"...

Others felt like that after the "coming out" arc for Alex, her character was weighed down by the #Sanvers relationship, and it was getting stale fast.

Then you have others like me that felt the writing for this couple was a little on the boring side, and with Maggie leaving are excited to see what else is in store for Alex. I don't believe her coming out as a Lesbian arc is quite finished, nor will it ever be finished, that is her life....so we are just waiting to see what happens.

When all of these groups clash on Twitter.....well, *sighs* all hell breaks loose.

Myself and others on another site were told that IF we are not LGBQT then we have no right to talk about what is right/wrong, what is LGBQT representation on tv, etc.....because we are straight, we are "privileged"......I've seen and read many things, but I've never been told that....

This might be a little controversial.
I really don't mean to offend anyone but I do get the feeling their a certain subsection of the LGBQT community just wants to see happy couples on TV.

I get people LGBQT communities desire to see a stable happy couple in entertainment. They want representation and to see their lives reflected in entertainment.

I just think their expectations don't really fit with the nature of long running dramatic television which often features some sort of conflict.

Most relationships with characters under forty regardless of sexual orientation are usually unstable for dramatic story reasons on television shows. CW shows in particular tend to be very melodramatic and soap opera. CW is known for having a love triangle storyline at some point in the vast majority of their shows.

 

[metaphysician]

I think my problem with the Alex/Maggie subplot ( aside from them totally setting up to explode the relationship ). . . the hard turn in the middle with Maggie's father just didn't smell right. The way they portrayed him in the first half, for better and worse, didn't feel like it fit with the way he behaved in the second half. Taking as assumed that he's repressing his feelings and trying to be nice and reconnect, he'd still have been behaving in a different repressed manner than he did.

Basically, it felt like the script and direction were done by two different people, as part of two different story arcs with different goals and outcomes. And so the response when he has his break and can't pretend anymore, isn't shock or horror or sadness, but confusion. "Wait, what?"

( Didn't help that they seemed to be setting things up perfectly for "It wasn't your dad who was pissed at you for being gay, and kicked you out. It was your mom." )

 

[Zorex]

Bit of a lurker here!

I found this week's episode to be a bit of a letdown. If it weren't for the Alex & Maggie storyline, it would've been much more of a snoozer. The struggle to win over J'onn's father was moving, but something about the staff and the Martian resistance felt hollow to me. And Kara blasting those Martians to smithereens was, uh... unexpected. A little unsettling. No hesitations or doubts? Okay...

I enjoyed last week's episode much more, where the only negative storytelling aspect I found to be the kid willingly putting herself into danger to lure her mom out. Not a high point for the episode, but balanced out by a lot of other good stuff in the episode. (How about the actress who played Psi? Can we get her back soon, please?)

This week's episode definitely left me wanting to get back to Reign's storyline. I attribute that largely to the actress, who I think has done a lot of heavy lifting in a short amount of time.

 

[BH/HHH]

- I loved the car, that was so cool and felt like something right out of a comic book.
- One thing I have noticed is the FX are so much better this season than the previous two.
- It’s so awesome that they cast Carl Lumbly as Jonn’s father. It was just amazing to watch him play a Green Martian in live action.
- All the mars stuff was gold, especially loved the interaction with Jonn and his Father when we saw the green Martians in the flashback.
- Baby One More time that made me laugh so much
- Maggie and Alex stuff was meh as always. The absolute worst part was jumping from the emotional scene between Jonn and his Father straight to the party scene. Ugh! How long til Maggie leaves?

Best episode of the season for me so far which is ironic really because last season all I did was moan about episodes not focusing on Kara and here we have the first episode of the season I like and it didn’t focus on her. A very solid 8/10, would have been a 9 if not for the Maggie stuff.

Edit: Finally saw this seasons intro, for some reason I hadn’t before this episode. Glad they got that Superman shirt rip in.

Oy. First clunker of the season, imo.

Man we are so far apart on this season, first episode I enjoy you don't

I'm glad there wasn't a C storyline, that was my problem with last season.....too much going on. Thank goodness we had just A and B. Had you had a C, we wouldn't have had near the scenes on Mars that we had, and honestly I wanted more. I would have much rather had a BIGGER climax in the Mars story and less time devoted to the shower.

Agreed, this show would be much better if they stick to A and B plots and no C plots. I also would have just had this episode be all about the Mars storyline.

 

[Dr.]

Edit: Finally saw this seasons intro, for some reason I hadn’t before this episode. Glad they got that Superman shirt rip in.

You didn't notice because it wasn't there. This season, none of the Arrowverse shows had their usual opening narration for the first week (leading some us to hope speculate that the practice had been abandoned ). It was the same for the second week - until last Thursday’s Arrow. And now Supergirl’s is back. Presumably, the others will follow suit. Oh well.

 

[BH/HHH]

You didn't notice because it wasn't there. This season, none of the Arrowverse shows had their usual opening narration for the first week (leading some us to hope speculate that the practice had been abandoned ). It was the same for the second week - until last Thursday’s Arrow. And now Supergirl’s is back. Presumably, the others will follow suit. Oh well.

That explains why

Saddo I am I quite like them, especially on Supergirl as I get to see Supes

 

[flickchick85]

Man we are so far apart on this season, first episode I enjoy you don't

My thoughts exactly. I'll admit one of my first thoughts after I made my post was, "watch BH like this one," lol. But hey, at least we both loved the car.

 

[BH/HHH]

My thoughts exactly. I'll admit one of my first thoughts after I made my post was, "watch BH like this one," lol. But hey, at least we both loved the car.

 

[Kelly]

This might be a little controversial.
I really don't mean to offend anyone but I do get the feeling their a certain subsection of the LGBQT community just wants to see happy couples on TV.

I get people LGBQT communities desire to see a stable happy couple in entertainment. They want representation and to see their lives reflected in entertainment.

I just think their expectations don't really fit with the nature of long running dramatic television which often features some sort of conflict.

Most relationships with characters under forty regardless of sexual orientation are usually unstable for dramatic story reasons on television shows. CW shows in particular tend to be very melodramatic and soap opera. CW is known for having a love triangle storyline at some point in the vast majority of their shows.

I agree, and I totally get that they want and need representation. Truly, my only problem in all of this is....

To be clear, the groups I'm speaking of below, are simply those that are loudest, and most evident on social media. This is not to say in general terms that all #Sanvers and #Supercorp fans are like those described below. I know MANY who disavow these groups.

1. Their (those loudest on social media) means of slamming every aspect of the show except the gay couples.
2. Slamming, stalking, harassing the writers, actors, etc...at a constant level of "psycho".
3. Give no responsibility of Floriana leaving the show to Floriana...

Those that are truly upset that this couple is ending, and absolutely have no part in the 3 groups above, I get it.

But there comes a time when, the writing is on the wall, that person is leaving the show and you have to make a decision. Do I continue watching the show or not...do I seek to support a show that has written a strong, lesbian character with warmth, sincerity and passion....or do I continue to close my eyes to that and only look at what is no more? That is a question, they need to ask themselves.

Alex is not leaving the show, she is going no where....and as REAL RELATIONSHIPS GO....couples split over a multitude of reasons, one being desire/or lack of for children. There is nothing more real about that....nothing more real about someone working through the loss of a partner whether it be death, or them leaving because they are leaving.

If we, at any time, put so much of our emotional wealth on a "ship" on TV that when it is no longer there we go bullistic? We have put far too of our emotional well being into that series.

I am pissed beyond belief that Sophia Bush is no longer on Chicago PD. She was my favorite character and why I watched the show. I'm not sure why she left the show....a lot of shady stuff being said. But, I'm not slamming the producers, writers, other actors on social media because I'm mad about it. I simply use the remote....

At the end of the day, the story that begins and ends in this situation belongs to Alex. Her story has just begun. It will be a story that I'm sure will have many people coming and going through it throughout this series tenure on TV. But it is HER STORY....not just a story of her in a relationship, but story of her as a lesbian woman in many different kinds of relationships....sister, friend, co-worker and probably in the future, lover...NONE OF THOSE things, or the hope for those things has ended with the departure of Floriana Lima. Simply, hopefully more doors open for Floriana and more doors open for the character of Alex.