EVERYTHING Black Panther - Part 4

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Idris Elba, Chiwetel Ejiofor, Michael B. Jordan and Chadwick Boseman rumored as T'Challa even though Elba is already Heimdall:

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/chiwetel-ejiofor-chadwick-boseman-black-panther-191700997.html

Chiwetel Ejiofor, Chadwick Boseman, Michael B Jordan and Idris Elba have all been linked to the leading role in Marvel's 'Black Panther' movie.

Latino Review's resident scoop-master and tiresome tease El Mayimbe kicked off the rumour with a cryptic tweet saying the man set to play 'Black Panther' is on the cover of this month's Vaniety Fair Hollywood issue.

Process of elimination means '12 Years a Slave's Chiwetel Ejiofor and Chadwick Boseman are front-runners, with 'That Awkward Moment's Michael B Jordan and Idris Elba also in contention.

Chiwetel Ejiofor would be a popular choice having wowed fan-films with his Oscar-nominated performance in '12 Years a Slave' but Chadwick Boseman is the most likely, given that he's a young-up-and-comer.

However, Elba is already part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe as Heimdall in the two 'Thor' movies, and Michael B Jordan is strongly believed to be taking up the role of Johnny Storm in 'The Fantastic Four'.

Clearly El Mayimbe, who has a fantastic track-record with rumours like this, has a big story up his sleeve, it's just a shame he's reverted to his cheap attention-seeking ways rather than getting a story and then publishing it.

A Black Panther adaptation has been rumoured for Marvel's Phase Three of films for a while, alongside the already announced 'Ant-Man' , 'Captain America 3' and 'Thor 3' , as well as an all-but-confirmed 'Doctor Strange' movie.

Black Panther is the alter-ego of T'Challa, the ruler of fictional Marvel country Wakanda.
 
Isn't El Mayimbe the most unreliable from that already highly unreliable site?
 
He hasn't always been great, no.

Still, I hope it's true. I don't mind of Idris plays more than one role in the marvel u
 
I love Elba, but I'm still rooting for Ejiofor on this one.
 
I'd love for Michael B. Jordan to land it, to launch him into super stardom. Ejiofor isn't necessarily too old for it, but I'd prefer for him to use his critical success to make great films with great writers/directors rather than get in a blockbuster loop. Jordan could use the exposure, and it would be nice to have an injection of talented youth into the MCU.
 
Shrug. Not really news when worded this way, imho.

Ejiofor and Boseman have been rumored for the longest and Elba's made no secret he wouldn't mind having more to do in the MCU. If Jordan were in the running, that would be something, but he's Johnny Storm. So he's the least likely of the four.

My money's on Ejiofor at this point given three things; a. his prior working relationship with Whedon, b. his Oscar nod, meaning he's a 'surer bet' in the suits' minds to top-line a 'risky' property and c. Chiwetel recently saying he'd be quite open to a comic book movie but simply hadn't been approached.
 
Yeah, I call shenanigans. It's just a safe bet to say the biggest black actors when all put together have the Black Panther amongst them. Ugh.
 
Ejiofor and Boseman have been rumored for the longest and Elba's made no secret he wouldn't mind having more to do in the MCU. If Jordan were in the running, that would be something, but he's Johnny Storm. So he's the least likely of the four.

I think Elba is the least likely since he's already in the MCU.
 
I think that if they start the movie before he becomes king it would be easier to show why he feels a lot of pressure stepping into the shoes of the king. We could see him on his way to Wakanda with Taku or W'Kabi, and he could be expressing how he wants to live up to T'Chaka but may not be worthy. It's hard to tear T'Challa down because he's really humble, so I can't see a storyline where he loses it all to show why it's important to him. He knows how important Wakanda is to his family's legacy, and he wouldn't take that lightly. Instead I would like to see the burden of him out thinking himself at times, and that leads to mistakes. For him if he makes a mistake it could really cause a lot of pain to many people, so that tightrope could be really interesting to see if they write it correctly.

In terms of relating to the audience we can feel for him as a lot of us have parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents, etc. who set really huge examples that we want to live up to. The challenge is making T'Challa relatable without ruining what the character is all about. He's a guy who plans for everything, doesn't take pride in much besides his people, and he's already a bad ass fighter before he gains the Panther powers. Setting a guy up like that could be hard, but I think that they could make him really sympathetic by showing how he has pressure from all sides. His adopted brother constantly reminds him of their father's greatness, and he's uber pissed because his secret police was exiled and disbanded in T'Challa's first act as king. He's got to walk a fine line between keeping 10 different tribes of Wakanda happy or else they'll start a war. He still hasn't found his father's killer yet, so Uncle S'Yan keeps bothering him about it. He can be sympathetic because a lot of us feel as though we're being pulled each and every way by the world.

I don't think it would be feasible to see him not knowing that he's the heir to the Black Panther. Wakanda is too tight knit with their borders to let their prince get kidnapped without finding him, and it would make Wakanda look bad for them to have that happen. They wouldn't look so technologically advanced if they could lose the golden boy like that. If they want to separate him from Wakanda to "grow" him then they could have him stateside to meet with the U.N. when Klaw attacks or something like that.

All this talk of the movie really makes me hope that they'll eventually do a BP movie. I've gotten most of what I reasonably want from comics besides a Black Panther movie. Don't mess this up for me, Marvel. I'd be a sad panda, and we don't like sad pandas.

I see what you're getting at, but the issue I think that may come up is that "problems are only problems if they're problems." His brother looking down on him doesn't carry any punch if his brother has been exiled. The ten tribes on the verge of war doesn't have any weight if they never have any meaningful conflict.

It's not actually hard to tear T'Challa down... you just have him learn to be humble, instead of having learned before the movie starts. How did he learn how important Wakanda was for himself, or did all the formative events of his life take place away from the audience?

I do think you're on to something with him out-thinking himself. It'd be pretty cool to have a guy who has to dumb himself down so he doesn't get in his own way. That'd be kinda fun, and a little badarse.
 
I heard a fresh rumor that there will no black panther film in phase 3. I guess the next hope to see BP on film is in Avengers 3.
 
I heard a fresh rumor that there will no black panther film in phase 3. I guess the next hope to see BP on film is in Avengers 3.

Not really. Even if it's true, Black Panther is a distinct possibility for AoU and Cap 3.
 
Let's assume BP comes out in Phase 4, which is 2018. Well, then I think that John Boyega (Attack of the Block) would be a perfect choice then.
 
Not really. Even if it's true, Black Panther is a distinct possibility for AoU and Cap 3.

I wouldn't count on Age of Ultron to have any appearance by T'Chaka or his son. A reference to Wakanda? Maybe, if Drew McWeeny is correct.

And Cap 3 all depends on what direction The Russos want to go. There's no guarantee Black Panther is going to show up in Cap 3.
 
There's no guarantee he's going to show up anywhere. I was simply refuting the idea that 'no film in Phase 3' = no BP til Avengers 3.
 
I don't think BP will be in Avengers 3, but I do think that by Avengers 3, the team will be more diverse with Falcon, Iron Patriot (if he survives Age of Ultron, which I think he will), Dr. Strange, Ant Man, Wasp (hopefully), Sharon Carter (she was an Avenger at one point), a de-brainwashed Bucky Barnes and maybe Guardians of the Galaxy with a giant tree and a talking raccoon.
 
Let's assume BP comes out in Phase 4, which is 2018. Well, then I think that John Boyega (Attack of the Block) would be a perfect choice then.

This is clearly a matter of opinion, but terrible, terrible choice. Attack the Block is watchable, but not for the sake of Boyega's acting. I've seen better acting in Doctor Who, and that show is at times intentionally corny.

Chiwetel Ejiofo or Idris Elba. Yes Elba already plays a Marvel character, but screw it. If Chris Evans can be Johnny Storm and Captain America, then why the hell not. Also, grown men for T'Challa, not little boys.
 
This is clearly a matter of opinion, but terrible, terrible choice. Attack the Block is watchable, but not for the sake of Boyega's acting. I've seen better acting in Doctor Who, and that show is at times intentionally corny.

Chiwetel Ejiofo or Idris Elba. Yes Elba already plays a Marvel character, but screw it. If Chris Evans can be Johnny Storm and Captain America, then why the hell not. Also, grown men for T'Challa, not little boys.

Ejifor and Elba would be too old for T'Challa by 2018. Both would be in their 40's by 2018. The only way you can cast them as a 40 something T'Challa is if T'Chaka is played by Morgan Freeman.
 
Chiwetel Ejiofo or Idris Elba. Yes Elba already plays a Marvel character, but screw it. If Chris Evans can be Johnny Storm and Captain America, then why the hell not. Also, grown men for T'Challa, not little boys.

But (as I'm sure you know) Johnny Storm isn't part of the MCU. Just like Elba played a character in the Ghost Rider sequel that wasn't part of the MCU (before marvel got the character rights back). To date they haven't used the same actor twice in the MCU in different live action roles and I don't think they're going to.
 
I hope some official news can come out before the end of the year. It would be nice. I just hope whoever gets the nod isn't lowballed on money.
 
I suspect we'll get something more conclusive at Comic Con.
 
I have a bit of an out there idea to introduce BP without him having his own solo film and yet it is basically his Origins.

I call it

Captain America: The Rise of Black Panther.

It solves several issues that a BP solo film may have. Not sure that Marvel or the Russo brothers want to go that route though.
 
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