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Only got spoiled about a certain scene involving Miller. Otherwise I'm pretty much going into season 2 blind.

Yeah, that was definitely one I was thinking of. But there's a lot beyond that, so it shouldn't hurt the season too much overall.
 
im kinda surprised at how much you dislike GotG when you enjoy Firefly so much

I loved the first and space adventure **** always gets a pass from me. So I'm still down for it. But I'd be lying if the trailers weren't trying too damned hard.
 
the trailers haven't really "wowed" me, but i enjoyed the first enough to look forward to this one

i saw the first at the Imax at the Air and Space Center, so I''m hoping they'll be showing this one too
 
im kinda surprised at how much you dislike GotG when you enjoy Firefly so much

Doing Firefly/Serenity show which should be up Tue from TBC actually. (Plug-Plug).

Ahem...

I think it's more complex than outright dislike, but in the end, no, I just don't see what was the big deal. Now when it started with the death of Peter's mother I had high hopes. Seemed quite different than other Marvel films up until then and the lip sync part where Quill acquires the artifact was enjoyable. I thought "This film is going to balance the pathos and the humor if the first 15 minutes is anything to go by..." but... that wasn't my experience of the rest of the film. It's all really surfacey to me. Quill is just a dude bro hero which are actually a dime a dozen these days, and there's a thinness to any actual characterization which for sure is not the case with Mal Reynolds or my main man John Crichton. Granted, those were series that had the time to add lots of layers. Still, the depths are there to be seen in any given episode. Quill is just a dude bro to me. There are other even bigger issues I have though CC.

For one, as a space action adventure I thought the action adventure parts were pretty pedestrian. I wasn't feeling it at all. Look if others enjoyed the action and characters that's good for them but I think that the characters were actually just cliche's for shtick and not much else, and the charcterization, what was there then get's undermined by the humor rather than what happens on Farscape or Firefly where the humor enhances the characters. The characters are all mostly defined in big exposition dumps and too often what we learn doesn't really add up, which is something used to bash most other films by the online fanboy set but Guardians got a pass. We are told about Peter's time with the ravagers but we never see it. We are told about the relationship between Gamora and Nebula but we really never see it. We are told about the death of Drax's family but... We never see it. We are told Gamora is supposedly this incredibly capable agent for Thanos but... Well that capability seems to come and go at the whims of the scipt. You know what I think is the best moment of characterization in the whole film? When Peter sees Rocket's back. That says more than any line of dialog in the entire film. This thinness of real characterization thought again, gets a pass. In fact it gets a pass for a lot. It got a pass for the "show don't tell" rule. It got a pass for the incredibly uninteresting villains (Pace is so terribly boiler plate as Ronan and Gillen... I LOVE KAREN GILLEN ON DOCTOR WHO... But she gives a terrible performance as Nebula), whose conflict with the Nova is never really explained. Why were the Kree at war with the Nova exactly? No one knows. The film never goes into it. It gets a pass for an ending that is both hoary (everybody holds hands to beat the bad guy) and a bit insulting (that dance off is just the worst... I mean truly the worst. The film stops being anything attempting to be three dimensional and might as well be a cartoon at that point). And there is maybe the biggest thing that puts it over the edge for me. Look is it underwhelming me action and stakes wise? Okay, but maybe I could have been lenient on that. Are the characters being used more for jokes than anything else? Well... Okay. The jokes actually are mostly fine and I understand why these characters went over well with others. But overall, there is a free floating smugness to it all. A prancing "look at how FUN we all are vibe" that in the end just rubs me wrong. Again... Is there anything particularly insulting in the film? Probably objectively not. But taken all together, speaking for myself, I just saw a mediocre space adventure film with at best good gags but nothing, not production design, story, villains, themes or anything else to recommend. All slathered in a glistening flop sweat of "we're so fun and cool you are just gonna love us" that I just feel cold to the whole thing.
 
Yeah, that was definitely one I was thinking of. But there's a lot beyond that, so it shouldn't hurt the season too much overall.

Yeah definitely. Like how I imagine [BLACKOUT]Ned Stark[/BLACKOUT] isn't really a big spoiler in the long run, and if anything probably less important to this story.

the trailers haven't really "wowed" me, but i enjoyed the first enough to look forward to this one

i saw the first at the Imax at the Air and Space Center, so I''m hoping they'll be showing this one too

I'd say Ragnarok had the way better trailer of the two, but in all honesty I just don't know why Marvel can't end on a moment of triumph instead of idiotic comedy. I really dug both the trailers for Justice League and Ragnarok, but one ends on Aquaman surfing the goddamn Batmobile and plancha diving into Parademons and the other ends on such a groan inducing moment. "He's my friend from work!", he's also literally the only work mate that joke makes no sense with.
 
I'd say Ragnarok had the way better trailer of the two, but in all honesty I just don't know why Marvel can't end on a moment of triumph instead of idiotic comedy. I really dug both the trailers for Justice League and Ragnarok, but one ends on Aquaman surfing the goddamn Batmobile and plancha diving into Parademons and the other ends on such a groan inducing moment. "He's my friend from work!", he's also literally the only work mate that joke makes no sense with.

the forced comedy was my least favorite part of The Dark World (aka The Darcy World), so I would've probably rather have seen that in the film and not in the trailer. i don't think it's going to get a very positive reaction now, more like a meh than the laughs it may have gotten otherwise. i don't mind Thor being a funny guy, but i'd like to some triump like you said too. He's the God of Thunder, I'd like to see more of that from him.
 
Oh ****, I forgot Alien: Covenant comes out a week after GotG. **** these superhero movies, gotta watch Danny McBride fight a damn Xenomorph.
 
There are some dope exchanges on this new round of reddit gift exchanges. I signed up for tshirts, vinyl, comic books, and pens/stationary but there several other cool ones on there.

If you're not familiar with reddit gifts it's basically internet secret santa. They assign you a random person and a random person gets you. Suggested spending limit is $20 but some people go hard on the exchanges. If your interested check it out:

http://www.redditgifts.com/?inv=DNa6

Would be cool for the Hype to do something similar and we could all send each other cool themed stuff.

Knowsbleed coordinated the Hype's Secret Santa
 
Alien Covenant is exactly what I need to wash the mediocre taste of GotG2 away.
 
These shenanigans have made me side-eye every new poster... More than usual. Is DellCurry one? DellCurry? Seth Curry's dad? Played for the Raptors? IS HE ONE TOO?!
 
i didn't. i didn't ban him when he was nosebleed either.
 
hes just some poor soul who has only seen one season lol
 
you... reds... mods... all the same. one entity. You are Mod.

i'm the only one who has ever infracted Thread Manager and lived to tell about it...
 
Thread Manager never accepted my friend request.
 
These shenanigans have made me side-eye every new poster... More than usual. Is DellCurry one? DellCurry? Seth Curry's dad? Played for the Raptors? IS HE ONE TOO?!

I think Revelation has something in it about PBUs right? Dead rising from the grave and what not.
 
Thread Manager had an affair with my mother.
 
American McShane's starts this weekend... Don't get too excited... relax... breath... just... breath.
 
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