Fant4stic: Reborn! - - Part 21

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Oh....the possibilities are endless my friend.

They truly are. A gateway could be opened to so many awesome story possibilities. There’s no reason fans have to settle but that’s what we’re giving up for the lo-fi, grounded and gritty Fant-Four-Stick. I personally cannot support it. This isn't 2000. This is 2015. I'll continue to look forward to the day the FF finally come home. Hopefully I'll live long enough and the CBM craze won't wear out by then.
 
Well, if you're going to mock it, it should be accurately.

Fant4stic looks like the name for a movie with a Linkin Park soundtrack where the characters wear Matrix outfits with hoodies and are misunderstood. Well, either that or a Fast & Furious crossover. No variation of "Fantastic Four" would really fit this, though. Man of Steel got around that by not calling itself Superman, but even if Fox could do that (and it's entirely possible that the deal with Marvel doesn't let them), FF just doesn't have enough general audience exposure to pull it off.

omg... as much as i like X2 as a movie.. this tv spot totally sums up the 2000's superhero flicks... all this movie needs is the song playing.

I can't find the actual tv spot, but it was pretty much like this

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You keep going back to watch the trailer and you'll upset the balance of views to likes/dislikes. :cwink:

I'm thinking the repeat views are a good thing. Hopefully it will deceive Fox into actually putting some real money into the film for their reshoots to give everyone the big explosive CGI-bloated finale that the GA craves thinking it will make some Guardians bank... which will drop the needed profit margin significantly.

:hehe:
 
Trank called FFINO a "$100 plus blockbuster" in the Collider interview.

I don't think he was talking about FFINO when he said that. I think he was talking about the Chronicle box office take world-wide.
 
It's a moot point now, but he's probably big enough to play safety for a small or medium sized college.

Safety might have worked, although he still seems a bit skinny for the kind of player you want. At least Baseball could let him be a scrappy hard-nosed player in the Ty Cobb mold (seriously, though, who plays Baseball anymore ;)). Really, the whole concept of the character is something I love but is very dated these days: the poor inner-city Jewish kid (not that there aren't poor inner-city Jewish kids, but as a cultural part of New York, it's mostly gone as many have become middle class instead). Essentially, people who are just as likely to join a gang or get into a fight on the street as anything else and the only thing they'd be hitting with a bat isn't a baseball.
 
Safety might have worked, although he still seems a bit skinny for the kind of player you want. At least Baseball could let him be a scrappy hard-nosed player in the Ty Cobb mold (seriously, though, who plays Baseball anymore ;)). Really, the whole concept of the character is something I love but is very dated these days: the poor inner-city Jewish kid (not that there aren't poor inner-city Jewish kids, but as a cultural part of New York, it's mostly gone as many have become middle class instead). Essentially, people who are just as likely to join a gang or get into a fight on the street as anything else and the only thing they'd be hitting with a bat isn't a baseball.

Yeah, because the middle class aren't having huge problems now or anything.

A middle class Jewish kid who becomes a star football athlete, raising himself out of that life, would not only be translating Ben Grimm as he should be, but would also go against the stereotype of Jewish people being bad at sports.

Instead we get a skinny baseball player.

Whoopdee-****ing-doo.
 
Kinberg is keeping busy with mutant superteams: He also wrote the upcoming Fantastic Four reboot. The film’s mysterious first teaser arrived early this week, breaking records as the most-watched trailer in 20th Century Fox’s history, beating out the previous record-holder: Days of Future Past. Kinberg is quick to stress how FF is different from the typical superhero movie.

“Part of what’s cool about the Fantastic Four comics is that there’s an emphasis on the science of science fiction,” says Kinberg. “And we treat what would normally be considered a superpower as a trauma. They don’t just go up a roof, jump off, and start swinging through the city. It’s the opposite. What would happen if your body transformed, and you didn’t have control over it?”

Rumors persist that the Fantastic Four franchise will ultimately intersect with X-Men—both franchises come from 20th Century Fox. But that wasn’t the concept of this first film. “The reboot of FanFour really needed to work in and of itself,” he says. “We were doing something pretty radical with the tone of the movie.” Still, the opportunity for a crossover is there. “If we wanted to find a way to connect them to the X-Men, we could,” says the writer. “There’s a lot of precedent from the comics.”

And although the trailer only hinted at the presence of iconic baddie Doctor Doom, Kinberg makes it clear that he’s as central to the film as the titular heroes. “He has aspirations and struggles that are a little bit more classically tragic than the other characters,” he explains. “As much as it’s an origin story of our heroes, it also tracks how someone can become a villain.”

http://www.ew.com/node/2106722
 
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Kinberg is keeping busy with mutant superteams: He also wrote the upcoming Fantastic Four reboot. The film’s mysterious first teaser arrived early this week, breaking records as the most-watched trailer in 20th Century Fox’s history, beating out the previous record-holder: Days of Future Past. Kinberg is quick to stress how FF is different from the typical superhero movie.

“Part of what’s cool about the Fantastic Four comics is that there’s an emphasis on the science of science fiction,” says Kinberg. “And we treat what would normally be considered a superpower as a trauma. They don’t just go up a roof, jump off, and start swinging through the city. It’s the opposite. What would happen if your body transformed, and you didn’t have control over it?”

Rumors persist that the Fantastic Four franchise will ultimately intersect with X-Men—both franchises come from 20th Century Fox. But that wasn’t the concept of this first film. “The reboot of FanFour really needed to work in and of itself,” he says. “We were doing something pretty radical with the tone of the movie.” Still, the opportunity for a crossover is there. “If we wanted to find a way to connect them to the X-Men, we could,” says the writer. “There’s a lot of precedent from the comics.”

And although the trailer only hinted at the presence of iconic baddie Doctor Doom, Kinberg makes it clear that he’s as central to the film as the titular heroes. “He has aspirations and struggles that are a little bit more classically tragic than the other characters,” he explains. “As much as it’s an origin story of our heroes, it also tracks how someone can become a villain.”

http://www.ew.com/node/2106722

Sounds like good stuff
 
With the 'Keep Hope Alive' thread shut down, I wonder if I'm the only one that wonders if the use of the hash marks instead of the number '4' was intentionally done to allow the movie to be re-branded as something else if a deal does get made.

CGI Thing can be re-touched into something else and Doom...already is...something else...most likely.

There has to be a reason and I still have hope.
 
Grounded, gritty, disabilities, trauma.

Fant4stic!
 
With the 'Keep Hope Alive' thread shut down, I wonder if I'm the only one that wonders if the use of the hash marks instead of the number '4' was intentionally done to allow the movie to be re-branded as something else if a deal does get made.

CGI Thing can be re-touched into something else and Doom...already is...something else...most likely.

There has to be a reason and I still have hope.

Hope for The rights reverting is dead, hence the thread closure

This is the only guaranteed Fantastic Four movie for the next decade. Best you can hope for is that it's a success we get more if not then we wait a long while

There's the slight ever so slight option they could trade the rights to Marvel for something but I doubt Marvel would sell or trade anything away ever again
 
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The part where they're approaching the powers as a disability scares me, but in the same way it could feel natural in an origin film to an extent I suppose. But what needs to happen is that they need to grow to embrace their powers. If they go through the whole film holding their powers as a burden, that would be running from the spirit of the comics. At some point they need to accept their powers and embrace them.
 
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The part where they're approaching the powers as a disability scares me, but in the same way it could feel naturally in an origin film to an extent I suppose. But what needs to happen is that they need to grow to embrace their powers. If they go through the whole film holding their powers as a burden, that would be running from the spirit of the comics. At some point they need to accept their powers and embrace them.

I reckon they just won't be able to control them for much of the movie which is why they need their suit to contain their powers while they learn to control them

It's somethjng I'm excited for. As aside for some quick scenes played for laughs we've never had heroes adjust to their powers properly in a movie.

When a person has invasive surgery they have to learn to walk again. Going through such a body shock transformation as getting these powers would take getting used to an learning to control
 
It's somethjng I'm excited for. As aside for some quick scenes played for laughs we've never had heroes adjust to their powers properly in a movie.

When a person has invasive surgery they have to learn to walk again. Going through such a body shock transformation as getting these powers would take getting used to an learning to control

Agreed, it could actually be a really cool and natural approach, Bringing these far out characters down to earth isn't a concept I'm writing off yet, I think there's a ton of potential there.

There's also a part of me that's kind of apprehensive with the approach as well, but I'm hoping it's handled in a fashion that does justice to the spirit of the source material
 
Kinberg is keeping busy with mutant superteams: He also wrote the upcoming Fantastic Four reboot. The film’s mysterious first teaser arrived early this week, breaking records as the most-watched trailer in 20th Century Fox’s history, beating out the previous record-holder: Days of Future Past. Kinberg is quick to stress how FF is different from the typical superhero movie.

“Part of what’s cool about the Fantastic Four comics is that there’s an emphasis on the science of science fiction,” says Kinberg. “And we treat what would normally be considered a superpower as a trauma. They don’t just go up a roof, jump off, and start swinging through the city. It’s the opposite. What would happen if your body transformed, and you didn’t have control over it?”

Rumors persist that the Fantastic Four franchise will ultimately intersect with X-Men—both franchises come from 20th Century Fox. But that wasn’t the concept of this first film. “The reboot of FanFour really needed to work in and of itself,” he says. “We were doing something pretty radical with the tone of the movie.” Still, the opportunity for a crossover is there. “If we wanted to find a way to connect them to the X-Men, we could,” says the writer. “There’s a lot of precedent from the comics.”

And although the trailer only hinted at the presence of iconic baddie Doctor Doom, Kinberg makes it clear that he’s as central to the film as the titular heroes. “He has aspirations and struggles that are a little bit more classically tragic than the other characters,” he explains. “As much as it’s an origin story of our heroes, it also tracks how someone can become a villain.”

http://www.ew.com/node/2106722

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The only thing I hoping this movie will have is the answer for Brodie's age old question to Stan Lee.

Is the Thing's dork really made our of orange rock?
 
Kinberg is keeping busy with mutant superteams: He also wrote the upcoming Fantastic Four reboot. The film’s mysterious first teaser arrived early this week, breaking records as the most-watched trailer in 20th Century Fox’s history, beating out the previous record-holder: Days of Future Past. Kinberg is quick to stress how FF is different from the typical superhero movie.

“Part of what’s cool about the Fantastic Four comics is that there’s an emphasis on the science of science fiction,” says Kinberg. “And we treat what would normally be considered a superpower as a trauma. They don’t just go up a roof, jump off, and start swinging through the city. It’s the opposite. What would happen if your body transformed, and you didn’t have control over it?”

Rumors persist that the Fantastic Four franchise will ultimately intersect with X-Men—both franchises come from 20th Century Fox. But that wasn’t the concept of this first film. “The reboot of FanFour really needed to work in and of itself,” he says. “We were doing something pretty radical with the tone of the movie.” Still, the opportunity for a crossover is there. “If we wanted to find a way to connect them to the X-Men, we could,” says the writer. “There’s a lot of precedent from the comics.”

And although the trailer only hinted at the presence of iconic baddie Doctor Doom, Kinberg makes it clear that he’s as central to the film as the titular heroes. “He has aspirations and struggles that are a little bit more classically tragic than the other characters,” he explains. “As much as it’s an origin story of our heroes, it also tracks how someone can become a villain.”

http://www.ew.com/node/2106722
This sounds like something you'd expect with the X-Men, but I like the idea overall. Maybe not for the FF, but it sounds like a very interesting concept. It is not an unheard idea either.
 
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