Fant4stic: Reborn! - - Part 21

[Whiskey Tango]

quit this bs argument

 

[Paradox1]

Because if film A has 10 million views on youtube and 30 million views on alternate sources and we know film B has 20 million views on youtube, it's logical and reasonable to assume film B will have roughly 60 million views on alternate sources.

It's a simple concept. I don't know if you're being obtuse because you really don't understand or you just want to try twist every bit of data to what you want to believe.

I question it because your assuming all things are equal and that is illogical. That is like assuming McDonalds, Burger King and KFC all have the same amount business each day.

 

[VenomsMom]

Oh please. Who cares how many people watched this trailer. People stop to watch a car accident too.

 

[VenomsMom]

Green Lantern's trailer looked awesome when people saw it. Then I found out I would rather somebody stick me in the eye with a red hot poker. Deception at its finest.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Green Lantern's trailer looked awesome when people saw it.

I've mentioned this a bunch of times but it's inconvenient so they pretend it didn't happen instead.

But seriously, you can still find the threads where people gushed over it for months.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I question it because your assuming all things are equal and that is illogical. That is like assuming McDonalds, Burger King and KFC all have the same amount business each day.

I'll absolutely admit that my numbers have some assumptions built in - which is necessary because Fox isn't giving us anything real to work with.

I believe that a good number of people checked out the Fantastic Four trailer, but I don't believe until I see something more specific from Fox that it broke any meaningful records.

 

[Kelly]

I'm sorry, what records did the trailer break?

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Green Lantern's trailer looked awesome when people saw it. .

No it didn't. People ragged on the bad CGI non-stop. Kinberg even mentioned that bad GL trailer reception when people were asking for the new FF trailer.

Remember the "I know, right" transformation line that people made fun of relentlessly?

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I'm sorry, what records did the trailer break?

According to this: http://comicbook.com/2015/02/02/fantastic-four-trailer-breaks-fox-record/

"The first trailer for the Fantastic Four reboot has broken the Fox Studios record for most viewed trailer, passing X-Men: Days of Future Past with 42 million views."

But according to this: http://www.ew.com/node/2107302?hootPostID=a27d30f3e928180f6d6371cdaa4ba348

"The last trailer to perform so well online was for last year’s X-Men: Days of Future Past"

Which would imply it didn't do better than DOFP, but did better than any trailers for Fox between DOFP and now - which seems a reasonable claim.

Since DOFP has more than 30 million views just on youtube, it almost certainly has more than 42 million views when all sources are accounted for.

 

[Kelly]

Ok? And what is that supposed to tell us?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Did you also calculate all the views from Youtube, Facebook,Google and Twitter? If you did not, then quit this bs argument of them fudging the numbers. You have no idea how they calculate the numbers they do. On Facebook alone the trailer has another 9million views and over 1million likes.

honey, most links on facebook, google, and twitter... ARE LINKS TO YOUTUBE

 

[VenomsMom]

No it didn't. People ragged on the bad CGI non-stop. Kinberg even mentioned that bad GL trailer reception when people were asking for the new FF trailer.

Remember the "I know, right" transformation line that people made fun of relentlessly?

All these trailers got believers and doubters man. Lots of people thought Green Lantern trailers were awesome. I remember people criticizing his suit. It still looked like a cool movie. Just like people criticizing the suits and effects like Johnny flames in this trailer. Point is number of people viewing the trailer means nothing to me anymore when lots of people bashing it.

 

[Paradox1]

Green Lantern's trailer looked awesome when people saw it. Then I found out I would rather somebody stick me in the eye with a red hot poker. Deception at its finest.

And the green Lantern trailer years later only has 360,000views. The only people fooled were the fans.

Ok? And what is that supposed to tell us?

The more views, bigger the box office.

 

[Dasher10]

1. People were hating on the Green Lantern trailer from Day 1.

2. I'm just going to post Marvel's official stance here.

http://brevoortformspring.tumblr.co...-never-root-for-a-creative-work-to-fail#notes

3. Fox stated that the budget is $100M. They also confirmed that Deadpool is going to have a low budget. Why would they lie about FF but not Deadpool?

Keep in mind that there was no Ghost Rider announcement for Phase 3 so Marvel is in no hurry to reboot that IP. The worst thing possible would be for the FF to be damaged goods rotting away at Marvel Studios for a good decade before being rebooted in Phase 5 in 2027.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Keep in mind that there was no Ghost Rider announcement for Phase 3 so Marvel is in no hurry to reboot that IP..

to be fair, Ghost Rider is nowhere near the FF in terms of GA recognition, fanbase or potential for stories

 

[Urich Leeds]

I'm sorry, what records did the trailer break?

None.

 

[metaphysician]

If they can get a net gain out of it, I would consider doing it. It is something they would have to weigh the consequences of.

I think they'd only actually consider it if part of the "net gain" were the Star Wars rights. That, Disney wants and would do much to acquire. Anything lesser probably won't get them very interested.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Ok? And what is that supposed to tell us?

A) That Fox marketing knows how to give positive spin.

B) They're aware of, and trying to act against, negative publicity this debacle has generated.

 

[Fincher]

Not that I'm insisting Fantastic Four has more views than DoFP did (and studios will totally mislead about something like that when it suits their interests), but wouldn't the real test be how many views DoFP had at the time? As in...Fox reported this a certain number of days after the trailer was released, so how many views did Days of Future Past have that many days after its trailer was released? That number would have gone up in the months following.

 

[Kelly]

And the green Lantern trailer years later only has 360,000views. The only people fooled were the fans.



The more views, bigger the box office.

I've heard that, but usually the data they are using is the amount of views and searches 4 weeks before the movie comes out, for it to be close to accurate. Depending on how familiar the franchise it can be close to 94% accurate. But again, that is when the data used is 4 weeks before the opening of the movie.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Not that I'm insisting Fantastic Four has more views than DoFP did (and studios will totally mislead about something like that when it suits their interests), but wouldn't the real test be how many views DoFP had at the time? As in...Fox reported this a certain number of days after the trailer was released, so how many views did Days of Future Past have that many days after its trailer was released? That number would have gone up in the months following.

I think we can safely assume that scientific accuracy is not the goal here.

 

[starscream22]

I'm sorry, what records did the trailer break?

Most dislikes I think.

Ok? And what is that supposed to tell us?

Um....that we'll all go see it anyway...?

 

[marcvader]

Um....that we'll all go see it anyway...?

Mmm nah, Redbox.

 

[starscream22]

Mmm nah, Redbox.

.....With a coupon right?

 

[marcvader]

.....With a coupon right?

and on someone else's dime.