Fant4stic: Reborn! - Part 35

[CyclopsWasRight]

Wayne Knight would have been a great Mole Man period. I'm not sold on Nelson playing a character who was ostracized for his weight in the comics. Doom in the last trailer actually felt pretty awesome to me although he has little in common with his 616 counterpart. Jordan and Teller are selling themselves to me as Reed and Johnny. I'm still not sold on Mara and Bell after hearing Ben's voice and Mara's apathy for the source material. Nelson is still my sticking point since his weight is an integral part of the character.

Not meant to

Because the previous movies in no way justified a higher budget.

Truth

 

[Sithborg]

Yet this one clearly did.

Inflation is a thing.

Also, they are clearly not expecting blockbuster revenues. So, why spend blockbuster money.

 

[BatsDC]

Inflation is a thing.

Relevant how?

 

[Eddie]

Sounds fairly close, though the cast confirmed the lack of a credit scene. It's possible it was moved to the film proper, though, like in The Incredible Hulk.

 

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

Did fans have a problem with that version's look?

I thought it was just "meh".

 

[Eddie]

Not meant to



Truth

You realize he doesn't resemble Ultimate either, right? Like, not even a little?

 

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

Inflation is a thing.

Also, they are clearly not expecting blockbuster revenues. So, why spend blockbuster money.

It's hard to expect blockbuster revenues when they don't give a **** about the product they're making.

 

[RAE072]

I tell you what, now that we've seen about as much as we're going to see, this description sounds like it might be pretty close (I noticed a few details in the final trailer that seem to fit including a plane that seemed to be breaking apart in the Negative Zone Beam):

Spoiler

Reed Richards and Ben Grimm are childhood friends and Reed's experiments with teleportation by transporting objects through the N-Zone [this] attracts the attention of the Baxter Building. He's recruited by Dr. Franklin Storm and befriends his children, biologist Sue Storm and pilot Johnny Storm. Reed is then partnered with Victor Domashed, an anti-social programmer from war-torn Latveria to build a Quantum Gate to access the N-Zone.

Once the gate is completed, Reed, Sue, Johnny, Victor and three other astronauts perform a succesful teleportation test, during which brief disruptions are created. Reed theorizes the N-Zone affects both time and space, and the disruptions are a result of a portal being open to it. The cycle needs to be completed so close the portal.

Reed invites Ben to the first real test of the N-Zone, but Victor changes the coordinates without Reed knowing, wanting to push the experiment further, and leaves the team stranded in the N-Zone, where they are exposed to unknown energies. They manage to make it back to the portal, and Ben jumps into the threshold to pull Reed out and is exposed to the energies as well.

Reed becomes able to stretch his body, Sue can become invisible and project force fields, Johnny can burst into flames, Ben becomes a rock monster and Victor is left disfigured and obsessed with the answers the N-Zone may yield. The other astronauts lose control of their powers and die.

Government operative Harvey Elder volunteers to fund Reed's attempt to find a cure, and Reed develops containment suits to help the Four deal with their powers. Eventually, they find out the government wants to weaponize their powers and exploit the Quantum Gate to create supersoldiers, which they disagree with.

Victor has developed technopathy and engineers a breakout from the Baxter Building's medical ward and makes his way to the defunct Quantum Gate. The others try to stop him, but he jumps into it and disappears. Elder has the Quantum Gate destroyed, tearing a hole in the space-time continuum that threatens to unravel the entire planet. As the disruptions grow worse, Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben escape with Franklin's help, steal an airplane and make their way to the Amazons, where the hole is located, to jump into the N-Zone and seal it off from the inside at the expense of their own lives with a machine Reed has created.

Arriving there, they are confronted by Victor, who has experienced years inside the N-Zone harnessing its power. Now calling himself Doctor Doom and viewing himself as above the human race, he tries to convince the Four to join him in his efforts to take over the planet, but they refuse and fight Doom to a standstill.

Reed finds out Victor has built a makeshift Quantum Gate to explore other realities. After Victor disappears in one of the disruptions and the Four seal the portal, they manage to time jump to five seconds after they went through the portal and destroy the Quantum Gate, ending the disruptions and saving the planet.

They are captured by Elder, but bargain to assist the government in developing new medical technologies, and implying they'll fight back against the government's attempts to make them weapons. In exchange, Elder declares the Baxter Building self-reliant and is appointed as the team's liaison with the military. Reed designs new suits for the team and even sketches a "FantastiCar". He develops a relationship with Sue, while Johnny and Ben also become good friends.

In an after-credits scene, Victor emerges in Latveria and plans to take over.

Stan Lee cameos as a man whose car is pulled into the N-Zone and left behind after Reed seals the portal.
Doom references Galactus, Annihilus and the X-Men while talking about the things he's seen in other worlds and universes.

Blech.

 

[Eddie]

Inflation is a thing.

Also, they are clearly not expecting blockbuster revenues. So, why spend blockbuster money.

This kinda has to make blockbuster money, though. The last Fantastic Four film made twice its budget and had merchandise, yet it still was unsuccessful.

 

[RAE072]

Inflation is a thing.

Also, they are clearly not expecting blockbuster revenues. So, why spend blockbuster money.

Then they're expecting the movie to flop.

If it doesn't make blockbuster numbers, the movie will not be at all profitable.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

It's hard to expect blockbuster revenues when they don't give a **** about the product they're making.

Supposition.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

The negativity in here is bad, real bad.

how ironic... that's also how this movie looks

 

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

Supposition.

Nah. It's pretty damn obvious this is just a rights grab.

 

[Dasher10]

I tell you what, now that we've seen about as much as we're going to see, this description sounds like it might be pretty close (I noticed a few details in the final trailer that seem to fit including a plane that seemed to be breaking apart in the Negative Zone Beam):

Spoiler

Reed Richards and Ben Grimm are childhood friends and Reed's experiments with teleportation by transporting objects through the N-Zone [this] attracts the attention of the Baxter Building. He's recruited by Dr. Franklin Storm and befriends his children, biologist Sue Storm and pilot Johnny Storm. Reed is then partnered with Victor Domashed, an anti-social programmer from war-torn Latveria to build a Quantum Gate to access the N-Zone.

Once the gate is completed, Reed, Sue, Johnny, Victor and three other astronauts perform a succesful teleportation test, during which brief disruptions are created. Reed theorizes the N-Zone affects both time and space, and the disruptions are a result of a portal being open to it. The cycle needs to be completed so close the portal.

Reed invites Ben to the first real test of the N-Zone, but Victor changes the coordinates without Reed knowing, wanting to push the experiment further, and leaves the team stranded in the N-Zone, where they are exposed to unknown energies. They manage to make it back to the portal, and Ben jumps into the threshold to pull Reed out and is exposed to the energies as well.

Reed becomes able to stretch his body, Sue can become invisible and project force fields, Johnny can burst into flames, Ben becomes a rock monster and Victor is left disfigured and obsessed with the answers the N-Zone may yield. The other astronauts lose control of their powers and die.

Government operative Harvey Elder volunteers to fund Reed's attempt to find a cure, and Reed develops containment suits to help the Four deal with their powers. Eventually, they find out the government wants to weaponize their powers and exploit the Quantum Gate to create supersoldiers, which they disagree with.

Victor has developed technopathy and engineers a breakout from the Baxter Building's medical ward and makes his way to the defunct Quantum Gate. The others try to stop him, but he jumps into it and disappears. Elder has the Quantum Gate destroyed, tearing a hole in the space-time continuum that threatens to unravel the entire planet. As the disruptions grow worse, Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben escape with Franklin's help, steal an airplane and make their way to the Amazons, where the hole is located, to jump into the N-Zone and seal it off from the inside at the expense of their own lives with a machine Reed has created.

Arriving there, they are confronted by Victor, who has experienced years inside the N-Zone harnessing its power. Now calling himself Doctor Doom and viewing himself as above the human race, he tries to convince the Four to join him in his efforts to take over the planet, but they refuse and fight Doom to a standstill.

Reed finds out Victor has built a makeshift Quantum Gate to explore other realities. After Victor disappears in one of the disruptions and the Four seal the portal, they manage to time jump to five seconds after they went through the portal and destroy the Quantum Gate, ending the disruptions and saving the planet.

They are captured by Elder, but bargain to assist the government in developing new medical technologies, and implying they'll fight back against the government's attempts to make them weapons. In exchange, Elder declares the Baxter Building self-reliant and is appointed as the team's liaison with the military. Reed designs new suits for the team and even sketches a "FantastiCar". He develops a relationship with Sue, while Johnny and Ben also become good friends.

In an after-credits scene, Victor emerges in Latveria and plans to take over.

Stan Lee cameos as a man whose car is pulled into the N-Zone and left behind after Reed seals the portal.
Doom references Galactus, Annihilus and the X-Men while talking about the things he's seen in other worlds and universes.

That leak was probably accurate... which means we aren't getting a decent Mole Man in the sequel either. Which is the part I dislike. I'm hoping that the final product doesn't turn out horrible and Fox was able to salvage Trank's work with reshoots and editing but I really don't think they will based on the casts' reaction at Comic-Con.

 

[Dasher10]

Did fans have a problem with that version's look?

No, I had a problem with his voice and mannerisms. He didn't seem threatening at all. The new Doom is an improvement but still not what I feel people wanted to see.

 

[The Guard]

Solid trailer. I like the scenes with young Reed and Ben a lot. Good stuff. A lot of the action looks pretty good. This is a much bigger movie than people seemed to think it was. Interesting that the landscape they're on is considered "Planet Zero". Perhaps the Negative Zone is what they travel through to teleport there? Could there be a multiversal concept in there somewhere? Planet Zero being one in the chain of possible planets? Either way, if they're on another planet, that somewhat satisfies "cosmic" requirements of their origins.

I do think this trailer is designed to spotlight the fun, action and more quippy parts of the film. I don't think its representative of the type of film this is overall. Odds are good that this is a more cebral and more emotional film than people are expecting with a few major action sequences sprinkled in.

I have no idea what they're doing with Doom. I don't particularly like it right now, and yes, he looks like crap, but I think he's very much supposed to. They're not exactly hiding the fact that he's sort of pieced together, including his costume. Whatever happened to him has driven him round the bend a bit. I can't lie, I'm intrigued to find out where they go with it.

 

[First Avenger]

You realize he doesn't resemble Ultimate either, right? Like, not even a little?

Nah,Fox's version is Better than Any comic incarnation,don't you know? u.u

 

[Angryfantasyfan]

Here are some thoughts from a critic who was looking forward to the Croman inspired, body horror movie Trank described:

So either the film changed course as a result of the outcry or the filmmakers inexplicably didn’t bother to debunk a very poorly received bit of gossip over the course of the last year.

I don’t know what happened over the course of the production and I don’t know what the reshoots entailed, but I can only wonder if the reshoots and reshaping process that the film allegedly underwent resulted in a more generic superhero adventure with little to differentiate it from the proverbial pack.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...antastic-four-trailer-is-not-quite-fantastic/

 

[lordofthenerds]

Just saw the trailer(s), and oh man. Thing's voice and Mara's wig alone will ensure this won't get above an 80% on RT.

The entire tone of the movie looks incredibly inconsistent; like it's unsure of whether it wants to be dark, thoughtful science fiction or just another Tim Story flick. I guess that's the effect the reshoots had.

 

[RAE072]

yes, he looks like crap, but I think he's very much supposed to.

It's not a bug, it's a feature!

 

[marvelmadness13]

You realize he doesn't resemble Ultimate either, right? Like, not even a little?

Fox Marketing Book Page 1, Paragraph 1: If you repeat a lie enough, people will see it as truth

 

[Eddie]

Saw this pointed out elsewhere, but that tank explosion looks lreally bad if you really look at it. Part of the turret even seems to vanish for no reason.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Here are some thoughts from a critic who was looking forward to the Croman inspired, body horror movie Trank described:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...antastic-four-trailer-is-not-quite-fantastic/

If there are 5 total minutes of action in the film, you can include a good amount of that in a 2.5 minute trailer and make it look "action packed". I suspect that's what we're getting with this trailer.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Did fans have a problem with that version's look?

look, no not really. actor? yes... story? yes.. powers? yes

 

[RAE072]

Been released for three hours so far and...nobody cares.

Not trending on facebook at all. Fiddy Cent being bankrupt and Ariana Grande licking donuts is though.