i'm honestly fine with the Negative Zone origin.. it's the same spirit of the space race and uncharted territory.. but the fact majority of this film deals with their "tragic accident" and "disfigurements" and coping with them.. is beyond total BS.... I almost kinda feel like If marvel ever get's the rights back... they need to tell a main story.. but a flash-back story interwoven with it... Maybe the F4 and Doom were a big strange thing that happened in the 80s... Doom won, thought he killed them (really just sent them through a time portal) they re-appear in modern times, unaged.. they're big celebrities... Doom aged a bit.. and was kinda bored with no longer having a rival... Latveria is in shambles.. Doom see's them return, his anger rebirths.. yada yada... that way you keep the back history.. the origin story is done, it could be sorta similar to how DC is handling Batman right now, and how Hank Pym was aunt man with Wasp back in the past too..