Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - Part 37

[sleekstereo]

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if they are not even finish with the film yet.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

The best case scenario is that the VFX aren't done. But the NYC premiere is August 4th.

Isn't it being released in Australia in a couple of days?

 

[Snow Queen]

You can't say that the quality of a film isn't determined by the point at which reviews of it are allowed to be posted or printed and then literally turn around in the very next sentence and say the exact opposite, which is exactly what you did.

No actually, it's not what I did. The film's quality isn't determined by when they're released, but when they're released is determined by the film's quality.

 

[TalismanRing]

Isn't it being released in Australia in a couple of days?

No. They moved the date up to July 30th then moved it back to August 6th.

 

[Paradox1]

The press embargo is a bad sign, guess I'll have to wait for the viewer reactions to start coming in on the 30th.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

According to what, exactly?



You can't say that the quality of a film isn't determined by the point at which reviews of it are allowed to be posted or printed and then literally turn around in the very next sentence and say the exact opposite, which is exactly what you did.

Notice you are the only one making your argument?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Notice you are the only one making your ridiculous argument?

He is the only one saying that this is not a bad sign, the only one.

This is 100% proof positive that the studio has absolutely no faith in the film and we are supposed to ignore that because some one's fee fees might get hurt. Nope, not going to do that.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

No. They moved the date up to July 30th then moved it back to August 6th.

Ah, ok. I had just seen lots of people here say it was getting released in Australia a week early.

 

[RAE072]

He is the only one saying that this is not a bad sign, the only one.

So far.

I'm confident there'll be at least one more.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He is the only one saying that this is not a bad sign, the only one.

This isn't the first time.

 

[DigificWriter]

No actually, it's not what I did. The film's quality isn't determined by when they're released, but when they're released is determined by the film's quality.

Again I'll ask "according to what statistics?"

And don't quote Rotten Tomatoes at me the way Kahran Rasmus did because that site's ratings mean literally nothing.

 

[Kanon]

The best case scenario is that the VFX aren't done. But the NYC premiere is August 4th.

That's impossible, and an embargo wouldn't fix that. The critics see the movie unfinished, write the review, but at the date the embargo lifts, they still watched the movie unfinished and the review is the same.

The only positive way to spin this is with a twist, like the Psycho example given above, but I'll say that chance is not existent

 

[Snow Queen]

Again I'll ask "according to what statistics?"

And don't quote Rotten Tomatoes at me the way Kahran Rasmus did because that site's ratings mean literally nothing.

How about you provide the amount of great or even just good films that hold reviews until when screenings have already started?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

So far.

I'm confident there'll be at least one more.

Drz?

This isn't the first time.

It's becoming sad at this point.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Again I'll ask "according to what statistics?"

And don't quote Rotten Tomatoes at me the way Kahran Rasmus did because that site's ratings mean literally nothing.

Everyone here is talking about reviews except you. I wonder why? They not help your argument? This is a straight up trolling at this point.

 

[TalismanRing]

Ah, ok. I had just seen lots of people here say it was getting released in Australia a week early.

It' a very recent change. Even the advance screenings have been pushed from July 28th to August 5th

 

[RAE072]

Drz?

It's becoming sad at this point.

Oh definitely a contender. Maybe a few others.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

What a sad, strange hill to choose to die on.

 

[Marvolo]

According to what, exactly?



You can't say that the quality of a film isn't determined by the point at which reviews of it are allowed to be posted or printed and then literally turn around in the very next sentence and say the exact opposite, which is exactly what you did.

Did you even read Kahran Ramsus's post?

There is extensive evidence in film history that bad films or films that studios have no confidence in receive very late embargoes or no critics screenings at all. Now its perfectly fine if you werent aware of this fact, but youve been shown evidence and the rest of the evidence is a google search away. This is a common well known tactic employed by Hollywood to attempt to get as good of an outcome as possible from a bad situation.

 

[Quasar]

It's like talking to a brick wall.

I spoke to a brick wall about the review embargo. Even the wall got it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

How about you provide the amount of great or even just good films that hold reviews until when screenings have already started?

On the disaster tip for Fantastic Four, Rogue Nation is reviewing remarkably well. 31 fresh, 1 rotten, for a 97%. It has a 7.5 average as well.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mission_impossible_rogue_nation/

If Rogue Nation gets good word of mouth, Fantastic Four is DOA.

 

[Krystal]

They said at Comiccon that they had just put the finishing touches on the movie a couple of days earlier.
So another lie is preferable to accepting this embargo date for what it really is?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I spoke to a brick wall about the review embargo. Even the wall got it.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Oh well. Even Elektra and Catwoman had their fervent defenders, I suppose.

 

[DigificWriter]

I found an example that proves just how silly and meaningless this entire idea is:

The Other Side of Midnight.

20th Century FOX had TREMENDOUS confidence and faith in this movie, even to the point that they used it as incentive to get theaters to book a film that they had very LITTLE confidence in - Star Wars - and yet it was Star Wars that got the critical acclaim and the box office success and The Other Side of Midnight that was judged to be a box office disappointment.

Granted, I don't know exactly when reviews of either film were allowed to be printed, but I think the fact that they used one movie to basically force theaters to agree to show the other ultimately proves the point I'm trying to make in and of itself.