Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - - Part 39

[HunBoy]

#bringFFhome

 

[Tony Stark]

Here - http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...r-clip-reveals-the-face-powers-of-doctor-doom

What the...?????? He looks awful!

 

[Kanon]

Looks like someone scratched all the paint from a crash test dummy.

 

[wobbly]

Here - http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...r-clip-reveals-the-face-powers-of-doctor-doom

Ugh..

 

[Tony Stark]

Come on, guys...lets not be dramatic. There is no way we're at the point of saying Corman and Story's movies are great compared to this. The only thing good about the Corman film was Dr. Doom's costume and the only thing good about the Story movies was Silver Surfer.

Sorry dude, we are at that point.

 

[Eddie]

The Honest Trailer for this will be glorious. Simply glorious.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Going off on a tangent here but with the "lost in space" theme I think a new take on the origin story could be that the four teammates end up on four different planets, which would explain why their powers are different. If Reed is the one left with the ship it's up to him to find/save them all and try to get back to Earth.

Well i do and have been saying The Fantastic Four should be "Doctor Who meets Lost in Space" I don't think they'd have time in a film to have them all on different planets...

I just think they should be displaced... I'd have them have a 1 origin sight with Doom in like the past.. whatever decade that is... and they get lost from our world/reality

the trick is how to do doom.. do you make Doom displaced with them, and return to a decrepit latveria... or do you keep him in Latveria the whole time, thinking he defeated Richards, and growing bored... he gets into alchemy neglects his country, slows his aging.. and has basically plotted out a grand scheme should richards return.. I sorta picture Doom as "what would joker do without Batman to keep him entertained? the sparring sorta keeps those villains going.

and Doom returns better then ever when the F4 return to his world. ?

 

[laytonc32]

He looks worse than he did in the Story films and wasn't great there either. I am tired of seeing them give Doom powers. Why Doom is cool, is because he is a genius who uses his intelligence to be intimating. It is shocking how the same studio can turn one great villain, Magneto into the second best comic book movie villain on screen and the other into one of the worst.

 

[Tony Stark]

The Honest Trailer for this will be glorious. Simply glorious.

That's the only thing we have to look forward to.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Copy-pasta from the Doom thread, since he's also being discussed here...

It's crazy that in two franchises now, Fox have gone out of their way to not give us Doom by making essentially the same mistake: shoehorn him into the mission that gives the Four their powers, and give him powers that turn his skin metallic and have him walk around in hooded rags. Like, did they seriously look at the feedback for the Tim Story films and think, "Well we got Doom right last time, no changes required there!"

This time they got closer, as pre-transformation Toby Kebbell plays a much more compelling Victor Von Doom than Julian McMahon did. But just about everything from his transformation onwards is just totally messed up, a series of bone-headed moves. And they could have so easily done it better. Mild spoilery talk...

Spoiler

In the movie, the "Four" who travel to the alternate dimension are Reed, Ben, Johnny and Victor, which in itself is pretty bad. Sue gets her powers by getting hit by an explosion back on Earth, when she successfully brings the others home. An ostensibly small but thematically huge change would have been to have Reed, Ben, Johnny and SUE be the ones who travel to the alternate dimension, with Victor being the one to ultimately shy away from the moment of shared camaraderie that makes the mission happen: hammer home that at the end of the day, he's not one of them. Then have it be VICTOR who manages to bring the Four back home, only to get caught in a lab explosion. Only the explosion doesn't give him powers, it scars his face. We see him escape from the facility with various military secrets and weapons blueprints, saying his scars are a reminder never to think of himself as equals with others ever again. Then, cue "One Year Later", we learn that in the intervening months Victor has built himself a suit of armor and, using the various stolen weapons blueprints, has crafted an advanced robot army which he has used to conquer his native country of Latveria and turn it into an isolationist state.

 

[Double B]

Will never understand how that look got the green light...

 

[sleekstereo]

Another review saying that the first half of the film is actually promising, but it falls apart later on: http://www.timeout.com/london/film/fantastic-four-2015

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Nah. If the FF were in the MCU the easy answer is to make Galactus the last surviving Celestial. They already laid the groundwork for visuals and it looked damn good

I mean it could. But a giant humanoid being ( bigger than Godzilla etc) that eats planets with a big purple helmet wouldn't be kinda cheesey in live action? Rocket and Groot are on thing but I can see non comic book reading critics, and the general audience laughing at the idea. But I personally I would be down for it.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Here - http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...r-clip-reveals-the-face-powers-of-doctor-doom

 

[ShadowBoxer]

Bull****.

They could do Galactus just fine.

Galatcus is way bigger than that. In Marvel VS Capcom 3 he couldn't even fix the game screen, only half his body was showing.

 

[MyDudeSpidey]

As much as I wanted to see the film succeed, hopefully this convinces Fox to just sell the rights back to Marvel.

 

[Brian Braddock]

I mean it could. But a giant humanoid being ( bigger than Godzilla etc) that eats planets with a big purple helmet wouldn't be kinda cheesey in live action? Rocket and Groot are on thing but I can see non comic book reading critics, and the general audience laughing at the idea. But I personally I would be down for it.

It's assumptions like that which created this mess.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

It's assumptions like that which created this mess.

I mean Marvel got lucky with Rocket and Groot but it's only so far you can go with comic book stuff in live action before it just becomes to much.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I mean Marvel got lucky with Rocket and Groot but it's only so far you can go with comic book stuff in live action before it just becomes to much.

"Got lucky". What an excuse.

 

[Erzengel]

The fact that MCU has had success with Ant-Man and GOTG. They are attempting a Dr. Strange and Captain Marvel. Meanwhile DC is finally getting off their ass and focusing on not just Superman and Batman. But Fox can't make a decent FF movie?

 

[Double B]

There's no such thing as "there's only so far you can go" when you have a strong creative team, a vision and the ability to involve the audience in the world you're creating.

GOTG had that. There's no luck. Only talent.

 

[Brian Braddock]

They didn't get lucky at all. They trusted that the characters would translate, made sure they did them as best as they could and, guess what, they were a hit. That's the Marvel Studios ethos. FOX's ethos seems to be 'no way it will work so let's not even try'. Its insulting to the creators, short changing to the fans who've waited years to see these characters realised on screen and, to be honest, makes assumptions about the GA that are baseless.

 

[Tony Stark]

Galatcus is way bigger than that. In Marvel VS Capcom 3 he couldn't even fix the game screen, only half his body was showing.

Um dude that is a Celestial, you know where the head of one is the station Knowhere.

 

[Kanon]

Galatcus is way bigger than that. In Marvel VS Capcom 3 he couldn't even fix the game screen, only half his body was showing.

Galactus size is variable. He shrinkes as he hungers, to mantain his energies.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Unless he's a ****ing cloud.