Fant4stic: Reborn! - - - - - - - Part 41

[spideyboy_1111]

Colbert took a great shot at the film tonight

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[Willie Lumpkin]

Colbert took a great shot at the film tonight

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[Endeavor]

Lmao

 

[starscream22]

Colbert took a great shot at the film tonight

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Well played Mr. Colbert.

Moral of the day: Fan4stic is as repulsive as ISIS.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

i nearly shot pepsi out of my nose when i was watching that... had to rewind it to record it! haha

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

It really emphasizes how epic the fail is that it can be a punchline of a joke.

Catwoman and Batman and Robin provide stiff competition but I think FF will be right with them - thrown out as an example of an awful superhero film - in the coming years.

 

[Guts]

Like Manos: the Hands of Fate, Batman and Robin can be enjoyable in a "so bad it's good" kind of way. Catwoman and Fant4stic are not enjoyable at all.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I can watch Batman and Robin and have an enjoyable time watching it just because it is so completely over the top and silly. I can watch and laugh at it and make fun of it and get entertainment that way. If nothing else, it isn't boring.

 

[Kane52630]

Like Manos: the Hands of Fate, Batman and Robin can be enjoyable in a "so bad it's good" kind of way. Catwoman and Fant4stic are not enjoyable at all.

I can watch Batman and Robin and have an enjoyable time watching it just because it is so completely over the top and silly. I can watch and laugh at it and make fun of it and get entertainment that way. If nothing else, it isn't boring.

 

[DyeLorean]

Batman and Robin at least knew what it wanted to be.

 

[Val_Zod]

I'm not of the camp that B&R was a "soo bad its good film". Its just very bad, and I'd put it in the same category as FF that it is just torturous to watch. The jokes fell flat, and it lacked energy and timing that, a poor film itself, Forever had at points. B&R to me is how NOT to make a lighthearted comicbook movie, whereas FF is how NOT to make a serious one.

 

[Boom]

Honestly, after being spoiled like a pig in **** with the TDK trilogy, I've really softened up on B&R.

The fact that the jokes fall so utterly flat makes it especially hilarious. I watched it recently and had a blast.

I mean for God's sake. It has Poison Ivy doing an erotic dance in a purple gorilla costume. This movie gives zero ****s.

 

[DyeLorean]

But that was their intention from the get go. Schumacher did the film he wanted. Like, for kids and the tone from the 60's tv show with Adam West. It wasn't IT WASN'T the best idea ever, but they went for it. FF, as far as I know, is a mess. Nobody was in the same page. I think that's worst.

 

[Flint Marko]

I watched B&R recently and I'd put it slightly ahead of this nightmare. As everyone else has pointed out, it at least knew what it wanted to be. It was a cartoon from start to finish.
FFINO, on the other hand, had no idea what it was.
Hey, remember how dozens of us here saw all the warning signs? And yet we had to put up with months of people arguing that it was all fine and dandy, some even going so far as to predicting it'd be at a 90% on RT? Good times, good times.

 

[Dark Raven]

I watched B&R recently and I'd put it slightly ahead of this nightmare. As everyone else has pointed out, it at least knew what it wanted to be. It was a cartoon from start to finish.
FFINO, on the other hand, had no idea what it was.
Hey, remember how dozens of us here saw all the warning signs? And yet we had to put up with months of people arguing that it was all fine and dandy, some even going so far as to predicting it'd be at a 90% on RT? Good times, good times.

Lol, 90% on RT. More like 90% divided by 10.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

people will never learn that when something looks like crap, smells like crap... feels like crap... it probably tastes like crap too.. because it is crap.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

We can discuss how the final products of Catwoman, Batman and Robin and FF compare, but I think FF stands clearly and uniquely alone as an act of aggression directed at fans. I don't think either Catwoman or B & R were trying to reinvent the characters in the same way FF did.

In the case of B & R, Schumacher was trying to do something that borrowed elements from the popular but campy 1960's film and TV show, and it just didn't work as either a serious or campy film. In the case of Catwoman, they basically just put the character into a weak, poorly executed action flick.

In the case FF, they started with a blank slate and almost seemed to ask "how can we alter and change these characters so they are offensively contradictory to any popular interpretation of the characters in the past?" FF was so bad and so counter to what we wanted, it seemed almost willful. It almost seemed like Josh Trank and Simon Kinberg had gotten beaten up by FF fans when they were in Jr. high and used this as a way to get back at them.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Catwoman is probably the most comparable.. it did do it's own thing with it's own mythology and own characters... so i think that comparison is pretty valid. But, it did know what it was trying to do.. and the fans still knew it'd be crap from the begining.

so similar, not exactly the same. (both are unique flops)

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Keep in mind that Batman & Robin was coming off a big (at least in terms of box office) success in Batman Forever, so Shumacher and WB at least did have some legitimate basis to believe they were giving the audience what they wanted. Batman & Robin may be garbage, but there was at least real effort in making it that wasn't there for Fantastic Four.

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't know if Batman and Robin was seeming like complete crap months before its release and before anyone had seen any footage of it. I certainly don't recall thinking that this seems awful and a complete bastardisation of the source material.

And Schumacher certainly didn't tell fans that they'll see it anyway, as if we'd just swallow up any crap that came along.

 

[Guts]

I don't know if Batman and Robin was seeming like complete crap months before its release and before anyone had seen any footage of it. I certainly don't recall thinking that this seems awful and a complete bastardisation of the source material.

And Schumacher certainly didn't tell fans that they'll see it anyway, as if we'd just swallow up any crap that came along.

But Schumacher did go on twitter to tell people that the version that he made is way better.

 

[Dark Raven]

But Schumacher did go on twitter to tell people that the version that he made is way better.

Back then, instead of Tweets, they were called Sheets, and instead of Twitter, it was called Sh...

 

[Spiderine]

Considering that Batman and Robin were released at a time when thats all there really was they could do what they wanted with it. And the Batman franchise was very popular with the previous films. It was clear they were going the camp route after Batman Forever.

There were quite a few films before 2008 that they need to apologize for. IM and TDK change the game and put life back in the genre after X3 and SM3 brought it to its knees again. But there is no freaking excuse for any major property like FF to be made in todays comic book era post 2008 with the total disrespectful approach they took. Too many great films since 2008 for any major studio not to be serious about film making. Fantastic Fail was a joke to begin with.

And it wasn't like they didn't learn a lesson from the first two.

 

[Zarex]

We can discuss how the final products of Catwoman, Batman and Robin and FF compare, but I think FF stands clearly and uniquely alone as an act of aggression directed at fans. I don't think either Catwoman or B & R were trying to reinvent the characters in the same way FF did.

In the case of B & R, Schumacher was trying to do something that borrowed elements from the popular but campy 1960's film and TV show, and it just didn't work as either a serious or campy film. In the case of Catwoman, they basically just put the character into a weak, poorly executed action flick.

In the case FF, they started with a blank slate and almost seemed to ask "how can we alter and change these characters so they are offensively contradictory to any popular interpretation of the characters in the past?" FF was so bad and so counter to what we wanted, it seemed almost willful. It almost seemed like Josh Trank and Simon Kinberg had gotten beaten up by FF fans when they were in Jr. high and used this as a way to get back at them.

As info came trickling in regarding the casting, plot and budget many of us were assuming that this film would never be made. How could it be? A star-free rights grab that no bears no resemblance whatsoever to the classic source material? In the midst of the golden age of comic book adaptations? Clearly this had to be an elaborate ruse to force Ike to pay up and keep FFINO out of theaters.

FOX sure showed us.

 

[Spiderine]

I never understood why they attempted some other version of Catwoman that wasn't Selina Kyle. She was the most popular version with a direct connection to Batman. Im sure it would have probably still sucked since WB was just trying to capitalize on any DC film they could but still...........