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"Feel the Bern": The BERNIE SANDERS Thread - Part 2

Considering the general condescending nature of most Clinton supporters and their general snootiness. Hell, every comment section in every article for a while now has some variation of the "fall in line" comment. I can't fault them for not wanting to vote her at all. Much like Bernie's rabid fan base surely turned off some from him.

She may be more qualified than Trump, but that's not a high standard by any means.

She's more qualified than Bernie Sanders, as well. But that is neither here nor there. I'm not even talking about the supporters. All but the most rabid of Bernie Bros are coming to Clinton's side because they realize that it best serves their interests. That's the point! By letting this happen without his "influence" Sanders has missed his opportunity. He waited so long that his one bit of leverage (his endorsement and, through that, his supporters) has dried up and come to Clinton on its own.

If you have any question as to why Bernie Sanders ought not be President, his inability to so much as use an endorsement to get what he wants should be ample evidence. You don't make policy changes by saying "I WANT IT! ITS SMART! DO IT! REVOLUTION!" That is what Obama tried for his first 5 years in office and why his key piece of legislation is little more than gap filler, second rate healthcare reform that will ultimately be forgotten by history once a better alternative comes along. Obama has become so much more effective in these past two years now that he has learned to play the political game. A game Sanders clearly is not capable of playing. If Sanders cannot so much as leverage an endorsement to gain political capital and use that to further his movement, what makes anyone think he has the competency or the political savvy to further his legislative agenda from the executive branch (much less bring about unprecedented, revolutionary reform)?

And I am sure this is the part where a Sanders supporter would say something such as "he doesn't play by the same rules as the corrupt establishment, that's the point!" But to change that you have to play by those rules because everyone else in DC is. And as Obama's first five years taught us, winning an election does not make everyone join hands, sing kumbaya, and undertake massive reform. We are not a dictatorship. The Executive Branch cannot demand policy and make it happen. It takes compromise with the legislature and use of political capital and leverage to get legislative agendas passed from the Executive Branch. Bernie Sanders does not have that skill set. Its why his campaign was always destined to fail and why we are lucky for it. His presidency would have been an unmitigated disaster of a man in way too far over his head. I've said it from day one, I'll say it again: he really is the liberal Donald Trump. A boisterous, stubborn, know-it-all who is pretty far detached from reality and would have no clue what to do if he actually took office.

Sanders could have never gotten it done. We should be grateful he isn't the nominee and if his movement is smart, they will move on from him, to a leader like Elizabeth Warren or Sherrod Brown, both of whom actually know how to make things happen.
 
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Considering the general condescending nature of most Clinton supporters and their general snootiness. Hell, every comment section in every article for a while now has some variation of the "fall in line" comment. I can't fault them for not wanting to vote her at all. Much like Bernie's rabid fan base surely turned off some from him.

She may be more qualified than Trump, but that's not a high standard by any means.

That's more than enough reason to make sure she beats Trump. Well more than enough for any pragmatic person.
 
The Bernie Bros threaten to vote for Trump because people will regret not supporting Bernie...

But won't people mostly regret Hillary losing?
 
The Bernie Bros threaten to vote for Trump because people will regret not supporting Bernie...

But won't people mostly regret Hillary losing?

Yeah. They are cutting off their nose to spite their face. Or the morons are hoping that Trump will swing so far right of bat**** crazy that he will come back around to Bernout leftist.
 
Dont yall love it when your neighbors come over to your house and start demanding you throw out your furniture, change the paint, rip up the carpet for hardwoods, and that really crazy one lights a torch and tries to set the drapes on fire?

Fun times.:o
 
If it were at all viable I'd say Bernie is my top choice out of the 3. At this point though, there is no viability for him to win. I think he has rode this out past the sunset already. :o
 
If it were at all viable I'd say Bernie is my top choice out of the 3. At this point though, there is no viability for him to win. I think he has rode this out past the sunset already. :o

More like he pulled a Butch and Sundance and dove off the cliff.
 
Bernie endorsed Hillary Clinton today. Because he doesn't want to die suddenly and mysteriously.
 
Bernie endorsed Hillary Clinton today. Because he doesn't want to die suddenly and mysteriously.

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Well, that's not surprising considering he was never actually IN the Democratic Party as an elected official, this isn't surprising. He only joined the Democratic Party to run for President....which is why a lot of Democrats didn't like him. So, not a big deal that he left to become an Independent again.

Now, once he gets back to the business of the legislature, if he doesn't vote with the Dems, then that will be news. ;)
 
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Socialist Bernie Buys $600,000 Lake House (House #3)

http://ijr.com/2016/08/668817-fresh...gain-bernie-sanders-buys-600000-summer-house/

For seasonal use, of course. There's always his DC home and then his home in Burlington he can fall back on.

Hey, do you think Bernie would let the under-privileged live for free (or at below-rental-value) at the extra homes when he's not using them? How many homes could you buy in impoverished areas (made so by capitalists, of course) with $600,000? You don't actually need a lake house, after all. I mean, I don't have one, and I've managed to survive . . .

It is nice, though, to see this pig so clearly walking around on his hind legs. :o
 
Socialist Bernie Buys $600,000 Lake House (House #3)

http://ijr.com/2016/08/668817-fresh...gain-bernie-sanders-buys-600000-summer-house/

For seasonal use, of course. There's always his DC home and then his home in Burlington he can fall back on.

Hey, do you think Bernie would let the under-privileged live for free (or at below-rental-value) at the extra homes when he's not using them? How many homes could you buy in impoverished areas (made so by capitalists, of course) with $600,000? You don't actually need a lake house, after all. I mean, I don't have one, and I've managed to survive . . .

It is nice, though, to see this pig so clearly walking around on his hind legs. :o

What exactly are you trying to accuse Sanders of? I didn't realize any part of his proposals excluded being able to buy a house with your own money.
 
What exactly are you trying to accuse Sanders of? I didn't realize any part of his proposals excluded being able to buy a house with your own money.

Hypocrisy because of his rhetoric, he consistently bashed not only the wealthy but capitalism as a model itself (his comments about deodorant comes to mind), but he seems to be benefiting from it just fine. I just don't understand people like this. He makes himself out to be some sort of ideologue anti-capitalist, but he's really not. I will say though, $600,000 for a house really isn't all that much.
 
I don't hold it against Bernie at all - the man's human, same as we all our. Each of us has thrills we're looking to satisfy. Bernie got his with his campaign run.
 
Hypocrisy because of his rhetoric, he consistently bashed not only the wealthy but capitalism as a model itself (his comments about deodorant comes to mind), but he seems to be benefiting from it just fine. I just don't understand people like this. He makes himself out to be some sort of ideologue anti-capitalist, but he's really not. I will say though, $600,000 for a house really isn't all that much.

Exactly. He's no better than that bloated swine, Al Gore. He owns multiple mansions yet globetrots the world, lecturing everyone on how we need to reduce consumption to save the environment.
 
Hypocrisy because of his rhetoric, he consistently bashed not only the wealthy but capitalism as a model itself (his comments about deodorant comes to mind), but he seems to be benefiting from it just fine. I just don't understand people like this. He makes himself out to be some sort of ideologue anti-capitalist, but he's really not. I will say though, $600,000 for a house really isn't all that much.

No, $600K is not that much for a house. If you want to complain about someone who is a hypocrite because of their rhetoric, go to the Hillary thread. It's obviously more complicated than simply being pro-capitalist and anti-capitalist. His "hypocrisy" is a fake problem - it truly does not matter what his opinion on the textbook definition of capitalism is, just the real world side-effects of capitalism in practice. The real problems with our government and corporate practices goes completely ignored in your accusations. There are plenty of wealthy people who became that way unethically.
 

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