Forced unnecessary humor?

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  1. kedrell Fork&SpoonOperator

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    The trouble is that territory varies depending on the person you ask. But I expect I'll enjoy the humor. I'm pretty easy going on that stuff, provided it makes me laugh. I can often forgive humor that even kind of derails the film a bit as long as it's funny. What I can't take are attempts at humor that fall flat and/or make you do this :whatever:[......cough....all of Raimi's Spider-Man movies...cough].
     
  2. shigsy2003 I'LL TAKE YOU ALL ON!!!

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    I agree,as much as I love the Spider-Man films they were disappointingly unfunny. J.K.Simmons was the only one with any comedic ability.

    Dennings is far from annoying in Thor and the majority of the humour comes from Hemsworth himself [BLACKOUT]and in two cases Jane's car, the second of which had me and my cinema in stitches[/BLACKOUT].
     
  3. kedrell Fork&SpoonOperator

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    Yeah, if it wasn't for JK Simmons there wouldn't be ANY effective humor in those films.
     
  4. El Payaso Registered

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    That's just a sample.

    There's all kind of crappy unnecessary bad jokes, situations and campy comedy all over the Earth scenes. But then again, most superhero movies are forced to have this kind of crap. A movie killer IMO.

    Take the terrible jokes out and you immediately have a better movie. And also the feeling that Portman's character does little in the movie.



    Oh yes, and if Portman's character was barely useful as a love interest, her feriend did nothing but those crappy jokes throuighout the whole movie.

    I mean, [BLACKOUT]not knowing how to pronounce a word[/BLACKOUT]??? That's funny? Really?
     
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  5. kedrell Fork&SpoonOperator

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    Hell, I laughed at the tasered scene just from the trailer & clip. I imagine seeing it in full context will only improve upon it.
     
  6. Nathan Registered

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    The humor was fine, although I would have prefered a tiny bit more of drama and seriousness in certain parts. Like the Hospital. I had hoped he would be treated like a lunatic for a short time. But his short freak out quickly turned into a comedic moment.

    And one of my favorite parts.

    "I need a horse!" :funny:
     
  7. El Payaso Registered

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    Well, context changes nothing. And it certainly does nothing for the movie. You cut that part out and the movie keeps being the same. No, scratch that, becomes better.
     
  8. kedrell Fork&SpoonOperator

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    I don't see how, but I'll find out in 4 days.
     
  9. El Payaso Registered

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    To give the main charcater dignity is always a good idea. If you're maiking a joke about him, let it be justified. In this case you'll find out that the tasering is just one of many similar(ly unfunny) jokes with Thor in them.
     
  10. Nathan Registered

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    Yeah, Thor turned into a joke a couple too many times simply because he turned mortal. Even if the jokes were funny, I would have prefered a slightly more serious tone. More into the direction of The Incredible Hulk, less like Ironman.
     
  11. Vartha Mod of Thunder

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    I think it does. It shows he's as mortal as we are. The point of the movie is to show a fallen God, who has to be taught a lesson.

    I just wish it were a longer film. If you stop and think about it, it took YEARS in the comics for Thor to learn humility, yet he earns Mjolnir back in a relatively short time. Not to mention being able to go back to Asgard right away. I would have been happier if Thor weren't allowed back to Asgard until AFTER the Avengers. Kind of like being tested by Odin before raising his banishment.
     
  12. Vartha Mod of Thunder

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    I absolutely LOVED the script and the Humor in it. I'll have to see it first to see how it's applied.
    TOO serious of a movie to ME changes the Genre of the film. It is a COMIC book film.
     
  13. Nathan Registered

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    That's why I said The Incredible Hulk. Not Ang Lee's Hulk.
     
  14. Vartha Mod of Thunder

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    True, I liked alot of what went on in Ang's Hulk, but the BIGGEST thing that annoyed me was those damned "comic panel" scene changes. I could deal with the HUGE size of Hulk but that was way too distracting.
     
  15. kedrell Fork&SpoonOperator

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    Even in TIH I found the humor to be too sparse. And half the time it was there it worked(Bruce saying the don't make me angry line in Portugese and flubbing it and Betty going apes***t at the crazy cab driver) and the other half I was just a wee bit annoyed(the stupid purple pants gag). The most humorously interesting person in the film was Sterns.
     
  16. Nathan Registered

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    I can enjoy a movie without many gags. I simply loved the interaction between Hiddleston and Hemsworth and practically any character moments. I would have greatly sacrificed some of the jokes for the truly good stuff.
     
  17. kedrell Fork&SpoonOperator

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    Why not have both? I don't subscribe to the philosophy that they are mutually exclusive.
     
  18. Nathan Registered

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    Because I personally enjoy dramatic character moments more, than having them end up as the butt of the joke one time too many.
     
  19. kedrell Fork&SpoonOperator

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    Well that's where balance comes in. And from what I've heard by most, this film has that.

    But to me there's nothing more annoying than a film that takes itself more seriously that it deserves to be given the story/premise. That's just like nails on a chalk board to me[cough....TDK......cough].
     
  20. Vartha Mod of Thunder

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    heh then this thread would be called "Forced unnecessary HAMMER" :D
     
  21. El Payaso Registered

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    Me too. With certain characters, abusing of comedy to explain things is very dangerous and out of place. Hulk, for example, is a very difficult one. Those jokes about stretchy pants... I mean... the character does better without them.


    Showing that is perfect. Thing is if cheap comedy is the best way to do it.

    Now, tell me what you want but I think they did a better comedic attempt in the TV movie "The Incredible Hulk Returns." No need to tell me they needed a better story and a bigger budget. But the jokes around Thor trying to adapt to live on Earth were funny. And at some point you could see Thor's tender and kind-hearted nature through some of them. At some point he was dancing with some girls and having fun like a little kid. That scene did more than just trying to catch a couple of cheap laughs.

    I agree. And please, the movie should try and explain how is that he fell in love with such an ephemeral character as Portman's.
     
  22. El Payaso Registered

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    In superhero movies they are, all the time. The only time I've seen it fully work is when the whole thing is a comedy like in The Green Hornet.
     
  23. Ryo Jin Let's Fighting Love!

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    My favorite comedic part! :funny:
     
  24. The Infernal Mky Mk

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    You and me both. Pretty much everyone in the cinema lol'd when she ran over him the second time and said "I swear to god I'm not doing this on purpose".

    I didn't find the humour forced which is surprising since I had half expected it from seeing the trailers, but it's pretty good in the movie and it doesn't take up half the movie either. It was pretty serious when it needed to be.

    Not the exact quote but....

    "We don't have one of those. We sell dogs and birds."

    "Then give me one of those big enough to ride."
     
  25. Bren Forevernoob

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    If I ask really nicely, will you allow me to still think it was funny?
     

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