Sci-Fi Fringe Thread - Part 2

[Destructus86]

the eyeball scene was insanely freaky

dude, I could almost not even watch that scene. Creeped me out!!

 

[Sawyer]

The Observer time travel aspect tends to boggle my mind, so there's a chance there are holes in this theory, but does anyone else think that September only told Olivia that she had to die because Olivia had already told him that he told her that? Or does that not fit with Observer logic?

 

[Siby]

I'm with you man, the time travel stuff is mind boggling.

What do the runes mean? How did they bind September from traveling in time? Where are the First People?

 

[wiegeabo]

The Observer time travel aspect tends to boggle my mind, so there's a chance there are holes in this theory, but does anyone else think that September only told Olivia that she had to die because Olivia had already told him that he told her that? Or does that not fit with Observer logic?

Could very well be. Although I could see September going back to warn her anyway.

Which would make it a self-fulfilling prophecy (paradox)


Like this little paradox:

Your future-self shows up one day and gives you the plans for a time machine.
You build the time machine, go back to that same moment (thereby becoming your future-self), and give your past-self the plans.

...Where did the plans initially come from?


Which...now that I think about it...is exactly how Walter built the Machine!!!

 

[Jordacar]

This time travel crap just fries your brain like an egg.

 

[Clu]

yup. i wrote a very long post about how september could have did what he did...but it broke down half way in and i was...man this is so flawed...

so i deleted it lol time travel and trying to make it logical is more difficult then it should be.

 

[wiegeabo]

 

[dru-zod2501]

The Observer time travel aspect tends to boggle my mind, so there's a chance there are holes in this theory, but does anyone else think that September only told Olivia that she had to die because Olivia had already told him that he told her that? Or does that not fit with Observer logic?

It's possible, but I get hung up on the fact that after Olivia told him about it, September said he would investigate the future on his own. If he'd found some permutation of events that would've spared her, wouldn't he have told or at least hinted toward it? When he told her about it I believe it was a confirmation of what the universe had already decided. If he had not told her she'd never be prepared for it, whatever good that'll do

 

[Sawyer]

Perhaps he needs her to do something that she wouldn't otherwise do unless she believed her fate was sealed.

Then again, maybe he was referring to her being shot in the head by Walter, to prevent Bell's endgame.

 

[wiegeabo]

That's what I assumed. He saw that in every timeline, the only way to stop Bell was for Olivia to die. Just how Walter killed her.

He didn't say she'd be dead permanently. Just that she had to die. Not that she couldn't come back.

September's not the best conversationalist.

 

[Sawyer]

Then that still leaves whatever the hell Bell does to her before the group ambered themselves. Though, we really don't even know if any death was involved in that.

 

[Forever Rud]

That's what I assumed. He saw that in every timeline, the only way to stop Bell was for Olivia to die. Just how Walter killed her.

He didn't say she'd be dead permanently. Just that she had to die. Not that she couldn't come back.

September's not the best conversationalist.

Well said! -- that's what I believed to be the case.

Then that still leaves whatever the hell Bell does to her before the group ambered themselves.

I don't believe we saw Olivia in that episode where the others emerged from amber . . . so something else may be afoot in 2036 with Olivia and her involvement (or lack of it) with the rest of the FRINGE team.

 

[DyeLorean]

Is this show a little bit harder to follow than Lost? Or is just me?

 

[Donut]

Then that still leaves whatever the hell Bell does to her before the group ambered themselves. Though, we really don't even know if any death was involved in that.

I remember reading an interview a few days ago. That the Fringe Facebook page posted that Anna did. Where she suggested that she is in hiding & to solve the age problem & she is helping her daughter behind the scenes. It was suggested that the Cortexiphan could slow her aging or something like that. To solve the age problem

 

[Sawyer]

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[wiegeabo]

No new stuff

 

[dru-zod2501]

Is this show a little bit harder to follow than Lost? Or is just me?

It's just you. IDK if you've missed some episodes here n there, but if you stay current I haven't found any problems following along, but again that's just me I don't have difficulties following shows I'm into

 

[Sawyer]

Season 4 DVD/Blu-ray Box Art

 

[DrDoom]

Is this show a little bit harder to follow than Lost? Or is just me?

It's just you. IDK if you've missed some episodes here n there, but if you stay current I haven't found any problems following along, but again that's just me I don't have difficulties following shows I'm into

I could see how the new timelines would get confusing.

A character pops up that you thought was dead but that was the old timeline and in the new timeline they're alive but only in the second universe but they're chinese lol

-DOOM

 

[Destructus86]

I need this out on Netflix...I want to start watching the series again

 

[NewYorkSpider]

Watched the first two episodes of this a few months ago and I was hooked. Just finished season 4 up. I think my favorite episode was the inception style episode toward the end of season 3 where Peter, Walter and Bell(who was in Olivia's mind) try to help Olivia find her way out.

Great show to watch. Can't wait for season 5.

 

[wiegeabo]

Watched the first two episodes of this a few months ago and I was hooked. Just finished season 4 up. I think my favorite episode was the inception style episode toward the end of season 3 where Peter, Walter and Bell(who was in Olivia's mind) try to help Olivia find her way out.

Great show to watch. Can't wait for season 5.

 

[Sawyer]

Final Season Premieres September 28

 

[Sawyer]

TV Line:

Fringe Exclusive: Major Final-Season Time Jump Is Planned, Plus

Spoiler

Returns!

Spoiler

In the Season 4 Fringe episode “Letters of Transit,” which was set in the year 2036, Peter says that he, Walter et al had been trapped in amber for some 20 years. So it would stand to reason that if the Fox drama’s final season jumps ahead in time, it would be either by a little… or a lot.

The answer, to hear John Noble tell it, is the latter.

“As far as I know, we’re just jumping ahead [to 2036],” Noble shared with TVLine at the Critics’ Choice Awards on Monday, where he was nominated for Supporting Actor in a Drama (the prize he took home a year ago).

While some Fringe fans my lament the decades’ worth of “lost” time, Noble allows that “there will be references” to the team’s pre-amber days, even using “found footage” to share monumental moments with viewers.

In the Evil Observers-ruled 2036, Noble reminds, “Walter, Olivia, Astrid and Peter are insurgents, so we know all the dirty tricks that have been played against us. We’ll be learning from the past.”

Yes, you read the above correctly: Though Olivia (played by Anna Torv) was conspicuously MIA from the “Letters of Transit” episode that informs Season 5, “She’ll be back” in this return to the future, Noble reassures. Viewers can also expect to once again see Olivia and Peter’s grown daughter Etta (played by Aussie actress Georgina Haig).

Meaning that just as your eyes welled up upon witnessing Peter meet adult Etta (watch clip below, because you know you want to), Noble foresees “a wonderful reunion of mother and daughter” — a scene, he tells us, Torv is “really excited” to play.

Noble himself, meanwhile, is excited to “tie up the loose ends and emotional connections” that Fringe has put forth over five seasons.

“Walter is the man who started this, so there has to be resolution. There has to be redemption,” the actor attests. “We also have to see the final maturing of the relationship between Peter and Olivia, because it has been so difficult for them and we want them so much to be with each other.”

And lastly, he shares, “I would love to see the Peter/Walter relationship come back to where it was.”

Spoiler

If the season does indeed take place that much in 2036, I wonder if the girl playing Etta might be upgraded to regular for the season.

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

TV Line:

If the season does indeed take place that much in 2036, I wonder if the girl playing Etta might be upgraded to regular for the season.

a very nice bit of news... really excited and looking forward to it...