Sequels "Gambit" starring Channing Tatum? - Part 2

[marvelrobbins]

Plenty of films lose directors.far too many dismissing gambit.all the people online dismissing gambit is crazy.

 

[Flint Marko]

Channing Tatum is a poor casting choice, the budget is far too high, the original director has jumped ship, and they've pushed the release date to who knows when. Yeah I think "dismissing" Gambit is somewhat understandable at this point.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Liman is a really good director though, so I have faith if the movie does happen it will be good.

 

[Flint Marko]

I'm not sure if I've ever seen anything Liman's done so I can't speak to his skill as a director but everything I've heard matches up with what you say.
For some time now I've had my doubts this film would ever get made since it sounded like kind of a misfire from the word go. It stumbling so badly out of the gate makes me think I might have been on to something.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I'm not sure if I've ever seen anything Liman's done so I can't speak to his skill as a director but everything I've heard matches up with what you say.
For some time now I've had my doubts this film would ever get made since it sounded like kind of a misfire from the word go. It stumbling so badly out of the gate makes me think I might have been on to something.

I urge you to watch The Bourne Identity and Edge Of Tomorrow, 2 of Limans best and both very good movies.

Personally I think Gambit will happen and we will get news soon.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I urge you to watch The Bourne Identity and Edge Of Tomorrow, 2 of Limans best and both very good movies.

Personally I think Gambit will happen and we will get news soon.

Wyatt leaving and Liman taking over was acylly good think.I put Liman as
better director.people forget he was director who started the jason Bourne frnachise.edge of tomorrow was good film that kind of got lost domesticly but thankfully overseas it did better.Liman was even able to direct a script by Kinberg that turned out decent-Mr and mrs smith

 

[Flint Marko]

I urge you to watch The Bourne Identity and Edge Of Tomorrow, 2 of Limans best and both very good movies.

Personally I think Gambit will happen and we will get news soon.

Oh I've seen Bourne Identity, I remember enjoying it. I also have been meaning to see Edge of Tomorrow based on the strong word of mouth.
You're right in that this movie will probably happen. I've just had a gut feeling about it since they announced the film. It's just a head scratcher all around.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think if Fox are still making the film that they should take a huge cue from the massively successful Deadpool and lower that budget drastically. I'm not saying that the film should cost 58 million but 150 million plus doesn't need to happen. Another thing is make Gambit look as much like his comic book counterpart's most famous look as much as possible. People are over the all black thing, it's not 2000.

 

[Flint Marko]

Agreed. Lowering that budget and ditching the terrible black costumes are a must.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Oh I've seen Bourne Identity, I remember enjoying it. I also have been meaning to see Edge of Tomorrow based on the strong word of mouth.
You're right in that this movie will probably happen. I've just had a gut feeling about it since they announced the film. It's just a head scratcher all around.

Identity is still the best in the franchise for me. The guy is a very good director.

I think if Fox are still making the film that they should take a huge cue from the massively successful Deadpool and lower that budget drastically. I'm not saying that the film should cost 58 million but 150 million plus doesn't need to happen. Another thing is make Gambit look as much like his comic book counterpart's most famous look as much as possible. People are over the all black thing, it's not 2000.

Agreed, I have never agree with the $150 million budget for this, it simply doesn't need it, $100 million would be more than enough.

 

[marvelrobbins]

they isn't any reason to make old man logan except as vanity project for jackman.Since he wants to quit playing wolverine DOFP is perfect sendoff.I just don't see any reason for it.

as for budget let's wait and see if fox really spends 150 million on it.

Since Tatum has a ultifilm contract to play gambit it makes more sense than old man logan although the only real crossover poential is with X-force since reportly gambit is set In present and X-Men films are in the past.

 

[Lip]

I'm not excited about this movie not because of Tatum, but because of the character. I like him as a X-Men member, but not as a solo hero. There are so many projects Fox could be focusing on (X-Factor, X-Force, New Mutants...).

Not even Magneto, who is one of the most interesting and complex characters of Marvel Universe, got his solo movie and told his origin story inside an X-Men movie.

If Fox is really moving on with this project, I hope they put some interesting characters like Storm, Rogue or Sinister to help expand that shared universe and give the movie an X-Men vibe. Otherwise... meh.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Deadpool's success should be an exciting development for Fox, now they know that it's possible to make an X-Men related hit without leaning heavily on Jackman's Wolverine.

 

[chamber-music]

I'm fine with Tatum as Gambit. Tatum seems pretty committed to the part from the sound of things.

Liman is a solid director.

From the sounds of things Gambit will be relatively self contained heist movie featuring the thieves/assassin guilds.

I think if Fox are still making the film that they should take a huge cue from the massively successful Deadpool and lower that budget drastically. I'm not saying that the film should cost 58 million but 150 million plus doesn't need to happen. Another thing is make Gambit look as much like his comic book counterpart's most famous look as much as possible. People are over the all black thing, it's not 2000.

Agreed

The black leather especially needs to go. It isn't the late nineties/early noughties where people were skeptical about big budget superhero movies so you need to tone down the comic elements a lot. Characters that have easy to translate costumes should resemble their comic counterparts.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Not every character needs it's own film.gambit with thieves guild and assassins guild is only one apart from wolverine and deadpool that can justify it's own
film.

I also don't see every spin-off team needs it;s own film.New mutants and X-force yes.X-factor or excalibur no.

some are worrying way too much about costumes.that's last thing on my mind.but noone has any idea yet what Is on Liman's mind for outfits.

Storm and rogue won't be in this film.X-Men films are in the past and it appears gambit is set in present day.besides bella donna is female lead of gambit.Sinister is more likely to be used as villain in future X-Men film.

 

[marcvader]

Was never on board with this project to begin with so I'm not really losing any sleep over FOX's decision to push it back.

 

[Lip]

Storm and rogue won't be in this film.X-Men films are in the past and it appears gambit is set in present day.besides bella donna is female lead of gambit.Sinister is more likely to be used as villain in future X-Men film.

The first Wolverine solo movie had a bunch of familiar faces. And Jackman's Wolverine was already highly popular. The sequence also had familiar faces. Even Deadpool's first movie had the X-Men represented by Colossus and Negasonic there trying to recruit Wade. I don't have any reason to believe there won't be familiar faces on a Gambit movie.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Was never on board with this project to begin with so I'm not really losing any sleep over FOX's decision to push it back.

I've been saying for a while now that Gambit is not a solo character, it's not going to be easy to make him one and sell him to the public at large. Fox should not make the film if they have too many doubt's.

 

[2kt09]

The first Wolverine solo movie had a bunch of familiar faces. CGI Patrick Stewart? Everyone else was either a new character, de-aged or revised beyond recognition. And Jackman's Wolverine was already highly popular. The sequel also had familiar faces. For all of two short scenes; the other of which being post-credits. Even Deadpool's first movie had the X-Men represented by Colossus and Negasonic there trying to recruit Wade. How is Negasonic a familiar face? The Hugh Jackman cameos were funny. I don't have any reason to believe there won't be familiar faces on a Gambit movie.

People are pulling for Paquin's Rogue to be in this. Unless, this movie is somehow building their bond, I just can't see her as anything more than a cameo tease given her relationship with Gambit is non-existent and the main female lead is Bella Donna.
I believe it was this forum that speculated Mr Sinister would be in this as the twist villain disguised as someone else.
The larger, more familiar X-Men ties as perhaps the end of the movie stinger would be for marketing reasons.

 

[JP]

Deadpool's success should be an exciting development for Fox, now they know that it's possible to make an X-Men related hit without leaning heavily on Jackman's Wolverine.

X-Men: Apocalypse

 

[Lip]

I wasn't talking about the general audience. The first Wolverine had Professor X, Deadpool, Sabretooth, Emma Frost, Gambit and probably others, I don't remember. The Wolverine was a sequel and yet had some X-Men familiar faces in it. Cameos but it had, and that was a sequel to a movie of a character already highly popular.

Deadpool had the X-Men represented by Colossus and Negasonic. I've never heard of Negasonic before this movie but the X-Men was mentioned many, many times and (even though represented by two characters) the X-Men were even in the final battle.

I don't see why Gambit, a character not established yet like Wolverine and a character known as a X-Men member (unlike Deadpool), wouldn't have an X-Men vibe in his movie. Especially considering the plan is to make the movie part of that universe.

About the project, I also think that the character don't work as a solo hero. I mean, they can make a first movie with his origin story but then what? I mean, he is not Wolverine.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

X-Men: Apocalypse

...Hasn't come out yet so we don't have box office numbers.

 

[Sithborg]

Can we stop acting like this wasn't expected. If we get no word of filming next month, then we can start worrying. The delay was inevitable. Honestly, those two dates they have reserved may be just to see what other of their projects can be ready.

Ironically, black (not leather) makes the most sense for Gambit to wear while on a job...

EDIT: Should we also be criticizing Thor, Captain America, Ant-man, even Guardians of the Galaxy for their similar budgets? While Gambit can work on a smaller budget, there is nothing wrong with them putting the money into this.

Any character can work as a stand alone, with the right treatment.

 

[2kt09]

I don't see why Gambit, a character not established yet like Wolverine and a character known as a X-Men member (unlike Deadpool), wouldn't have an X-Men vibe in his movie. Especially considering the plan is to make the movie part of that universe.

About the project, I also think that the character don't work as a solo hero. I mean, they can make a first movie with his origin story

You answered yourself.

but then what? I mean, he is not Wolverine

Then...it depends on the direction of Gambit's story.
Everything I read so far makes this out to be an action movie in the most classic sense. Hollywood has made franchises of plenty.

I'd personally love it if this was just a one-off solo adventure since there aren't enough of those around and just like with Ant-Man, I agree he's not a character I'd make a trilogy or so out of.

 

[X-Maniac]

Can we stop acting like this wasn't expected. If we get no word of filming next month, then we can start worrying. The delay was inevitable. Honestly, those two dates they have reserved may be just to see what other of their projects can be ready.

Ironically, black (not leather) makes the most sense for Gambit to wear while on a job...

EDIT: Should we also be criticizing Thor, Captain America, Ant-man, even Guardians of the Galaxy for their similar budgets? While Gambit can work on a smaller budget, there is nothing wrong with them putting the money into this.

Any character can work as a stand alone, with the right treatment.

^ That's the thing, though. Will it get that in the way Deadpool did?

And, in all honesty, the budget for Ant-Man was probably too high (though Marvel can obviously stretch to that, because of its other box office successes).

I'd have no problem seeing Channing Tatum in tight black leather... that would be fine for scenes involving riding motorbikes, etc, but the character also needs to have a comic-accurate look/costume.